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Helen Thomas tells Jews To Get Out Of Israel

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posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Actually we would all have to return to Africa would we not? If we are all going back to where we started? That could get pretty crowded.




posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by TheSam

Given Israel's recent attack of the flotilla of aid ships, I can believe she, as well as most of the world was disgusted & angered with Israel and let the comment slip. I know a lot of us have strong views on this issue, for & against.

B


Come on now.
The only aid they were providing was in the form of military reinforcememts to Hamas.
Israel has every right to defend itself, no matter what Obama tries to do to draw attention away from the oil slick.
Don't be surprised if the White House was involved in some way.



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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I dunno, I'm Caucasian, so I think I should return to my ancestral lands of the Caucus Mountains in Iran lol .. It's actually a very beautiful place on earth, but somehow I don't think we'd be welcomed with open arms. They've proved however through mitochondria DNA that we did all originate somewhere around Ethiopia from a single source.... do you think 6 billion could fit in such a small area?



posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 09:04 PM
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6 Billion standing at the big circular Starting Line in Ethiopia...

OH, THE HUMANITY... THE HUMANITY OF IT ALL!!!

On Your Mark,,,, Get Set,,, GO!
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Let's see, which way to Ireland?



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro


Come on now.
The only aid they were providing was in the form of military reinforcememts to Hamas.
Israel has every right to defend itself, no matter what Obama tries to do to draw attention away from the oil slick.
Don't be surprised if the White House was involved in some way.



Israel found reinforcements on the ship ? WH was involved ? Had one too many dox equis tonight ?

No. I'm pretty sure the whole thing was a setup to make Israel look bad and draw international attention to the Gaza Strip. If they were purposefully running the blockade and expected to be boarded and searched, I doubt they'd carry the goods, and validate the Israeli search. As far as I read, they only had metal pipes and knifes. No ammo or high explosives or RPGs or anything. The ship was carrying food and medical supplies.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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Regarding Israel, it was explained to me a difference in the Middle Eastern and European Jews. She was 1/2 of each and her own Ashkenazic jewish grandmother looked down on her because she was half sephardic jew.

This girl told me supposedly things were peaceful between the jews and arabs in palestine until the state of Israel was created and the European Jews with more Western traditions immigrated in mass. It's a really deep topic. I can see both sides. On basic grounds, I don't begrudge Israeli's right to exist. It's a small piece of land in a large swatch of muslim countries, mainly converted by the sword.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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I would not put to much stock into what this old woman is saying. She is ancient and slowly becoming senile. Old folks say the craziest things, and half the time they don't even know it. I know from shaving conversations with them, and out of respect for them I let it slide. However, personally, it was a crude and abominable statement about the Jews of Israel. To even play around with the idea of advocating sending people back to where their families were imprisoned and slaughtered is absolutely unacceptable. What relevance does it have coming from an old woman about to push up daisies?

The media attention on this, is just pouring on controversy for sake of making headlines and sensationalizing an already tense issue. Oh yeah, I am not surprised that Fox ran with this story as quick as they have. They seem to taut themselves as the moral compass of America, or the America Rupert Murdoch would like? We have bigger things to worry about than an old woman who is in the twilight of her years who had a lapse in judgment and a poor choice of words. Just my two cents on this, but the statement from Helen Thomas was of poor taste and could hurt someone's feelings.



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posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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So much vitriol and spite being shown here towards Helen Thomas.
I'll tell you all one thing, she has more balls than all of you put together and has never shied from asking hard questions, of all presidents, instead of the MSM softball questions that usually get asked.

It's also a little off to call her "biased" in her view of the Israelis, especially when Israel has your own government, and many previous administrations by the nuts and pays / blackmails them to do what Israel wants, not what is good for America.

She was also correct on one aspect, and maybe the immigrant Jewish converts should go home. It was, after all, they who stole the land that was already occupied.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
So much vitriol and spite being shown here towards Helen Thomas.

It's also a little off to call her "biased" in her view of the Israelis, especially when Israel has your own government, and many previous administrations by the nuts and pays / blackmails them to do what Israel wants, not what is good for America.


Can you give me a specific example of how Israel blackmails the United States?



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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i think you response is the kernel or nugget of the matter.

see, Helen for most of the GW Bush press conferences, was never or hardly ever called on to do questions...they made it assumed her points were trivial or off-the-wall

Now that Øbama is allowqing her to address questions, that means in political status, that her views & opinions are now recognized as having gravitas...
so, it is 'code' by the Øbama-nation cadre of socialist-marxists to be quiet on Helen's public quotes----meaning a tacit 'approval' by the policy crafters in the WH.

a certain 'diplomacy' is being waged here by the policy crafters and telling Isreal in couched language their actions & implied covert activity/preparations vis-a-vis Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria... are all 'on-the-table' in future formulations of policies between the USA & Israel...

and between the NATO member Turkey -v- Israel...
the message being sent (via Helen Thomas) as an adjunct diplomat without portfilio, is that Israel is the pot of water on the stove & the USA is turning up the heat surface...

so just don't slop over onto the grill or poof ! it will result in an instantaneous burn off



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Yes indeed. Perhaps Americans could resettle in Antarctica, since there would be nobody to have claimed it as their place of origin. We could take our chances on the ice in the -100 degree temperatures and +100 mile per hour winds with the mighty penguins. But that wouldn't sit well with the environmentalists. They would soon be saying,"You're melting the ice, you're going to sink us. Get off the ice. Get off the ice. Into the sea!"



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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No, I cannot give specific examples of how Israel blackmails US politicians. I'm sure anyone who could would probably be "sleeping with the fishes", to use a mob phrase.


However, it can't just be the money that keeps the the politicians in line and, given the number of Israeli spies and their willing helpers, I'm sure they have a lot of material and know where a lot of bodies are buried. Stuff that would be, at the very least, damaging to administrations past and present.
That's without even mentioning the Israeli involvement in the selection of candidates in the US, and thus support. Let's face it, the Whitehouse is just as much occupied territory as the rest of the Palestinian territories, given the dual nationals in high office.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Britguy

She was also correct on one aspect, and maybe the immigrant Jewish converts should go home. It was, after all, they who stole the land that was already occupied.


Yes but if that is to be the new rule, then how would you feel if 100 million yanks who live in America today gave their land back to native Americans then came back home and settled in your neighborhood mate. After all, they stole the land that was already occupied. Maybe we could all go down to the local pub and settle our differences with drinking games.

Stay thirsty my friend.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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posted on 5-6-2010 @ 03:57


[...]But let's take Thomas' suggestion at face value.
Should jewish people abandon modern day Israel?



12 days shy of 6 months on the ATS conspiracy/information site
& your not versed on Israel-Palestine 101 ....hmmmm


i would suggest to the 'diasopra' Jews that came to this
man deeded parcel of land...that this is not the 're-gathering'
you all dream ---

this current Zionist State of-Israel is an elitiest/illuminati
creation that has a purpose far different or destiny than your
hearts fantasy world.

They in Israel, and much of Christianity are all getting duped....
heed the scriptual verses paraphrased,
admonish you all;... to flee to the mountains...and pray this
does not happen when your nursing an infant or during the winter...

this instruction is for all the Israelis that stayed in their 'babylon' instead of doing the proper thing: "come-out-of-her", is the words
intended for those in the end-times & the rise of the AC.

not believing me?
then why is Israel called the Egypt & the Babylon, where also the Christ was crucified?



(Also Read: "the 3 world-wars" by Albert Pike...is a good outline)


but, hey, i'm a practicing pagan & don't go out of my way
for any people of an established religion... but the writings
on-the-wall, for those blinded by their faith to not be practicle



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:37 PM
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Now that Øbama is allowqing her to address questions, that means in political status, that her views & opinions are now recognized as having gravitas...

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Apropos of nothing what-so-ever I seem to recall that, through many administrations, it has been a protocol that presidents call on her for the last question of their press conference.

Peace.....yak055h



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:41 PM
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We're not quite there yet... but I think we are getting close...

And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. Luke 21:20-23 KJV



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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Proof that liberalism can indeed cause brain damage which, is obviously greatly accelerated with old age.

She and Jimmy Carter together would happily enact the "final solution" to end the crisis in the middle east.

Thank God neither are in positions of power.

Then again, our current president and congress are about as liberal as you can get.




posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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You forget the fact that Israel was left in control of the Jews just about every time a non Arab empire concurred them, They had some authority over themselves as in Roman times. They answered to Rome but were only a part of it.



posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
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Originally posted by Britguy

She was also correct on one aspect, and maybe the immigrant Jewish converts should go home. It was, after all, they who stole the land that was already occupied.


Yes but if that is to be the new rule, then how would you feel if 100 million yanks who live in America today gave their land back to native Americans then came back home and settled in your neighborhood mate. After all, they stole the land that was already occupied. Maybe we could all go down to the local pub and settle our differences with drinking games.

Stay thirsty my friend.


Not to mention it was occupied by nomadic people with numbers of less than 100,000. Also it was the Egyptians who treated the Jews so badly that they were FORCED to find another new HOME. God led them to the holy land that is rightfully theirs.

Palestine was a REGION that was very vast and the Arabs had never laid claim to any part of it let alone be organized in any way.







 
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