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Originally posted by bwinwright was intelligence involved in the formation of the universe and life as we know it, or not?
I think the origins of the laws of nature and of life and the Universe point clearly to an intelligent Source. The burden of proof is on those who argue to the contrary.
Benjamin Wiker: As for evidence, you cite a lot of the most recent science, yet you remark that your discovery of the Divine did not come through "experiments and equations," but rather, "through an understanding of the structures they unveil and map." Could you explain? Does that mean that the evidence that led you to God is not really, at heart, scientific?
Anthony Flew: It was empirical evidence, the evidence uncovered by the sciences. But it was a philosophical inference drawn from the evidence. Scientists as scientists cannot make these kinds of philosophical inferences. They have to speak as philosophers when they study the philosophical implications of empirical evidence.
Originally posted by SentientBeyondDesign
reply to post by dragnet53
Why would we be perfect?
I mean, the only way you could use perfect is to suggest we were made the way a creator meant for us to be created. Which is really only perfect in the mind of the creator, but then again, maybe that is all that matters?
Anyway, I believe intelligent design is possible.
But there is no direct proof of it.
Until some sentient thing comes to Earth and proves that it helped facilitated the evolution and properties of everything here and so forth; I don't believe you will have any REAL proof. Just speculation based on coincidental occurrences.
reply to post by mithrawept
Just because something is complex, doesn't mean that it was created.
Originally posted by dragnet53
no direct proof???
mitochondria DNA suggest we are 200,000 years old.