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Originally posted by Three Legs
reply to post by abecedarian
Might I ask what you do for a living?
I would imagine we could have every basic need and work 1 year out of our lifetime keeping everyone healthy and fed.
Originally posted by Three Legs
reply to post by abecedarian
Thanks!
Yep, that would be pretty hard to do without being their
However, I bet you could outsource like 75% of the jobs in this country or automate them.
Originally posted by Three Legs
reply to post by ExPostFacto
I would imagine we could have every basic need and work 1 year out of our lifetime keeping everyone healthy and fed.
You and everyone you know must be incredibly productive for you to believe that. We already have a shortage of nurses. So how do you think you are going to get healthcare without doctors and nurses?
Though I did find some humor in picturing government workers farming. There would be five guys watching one guy plant crops..:LOL:
Originally posted by slane69
The OP makes a valid point, if 20 hour work weeks were mandated we would all be fine, prices would adjust.
Originally posted by Freedom or Death
All it would take is a congressional act to enact such a scheme.
Originally posted by Faiol
the reality is that this 40/week doesnt really exists .... most people dont really work 40 hours in a week ... they just stall ...
but yeah, it would be nice 20 hour ... but it would be hard I dont believe they would be able to do it
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
So since you cannot present the logic of this, apply it to the real world, or even demonstrate any models you used...
Twice as much labor cost, twice as much production, charging half for products = profits to you.
Can you explain how they cut costs on things such as food and medication? How stores get to charge half as much without getting half off of what they pay. Many of those prices are set by deals, not on the basis of how many the manufacturer can put out in an hour.
Twice as many people working at my grocery story to stock twice as much meat they get from twice as much production at a farm that has to be twice as big which technically means it needs more labor than the double you advise since they are splitting shifts already, to breed and butcher twice as many cows, to make twice as much meat for half the price = twice as many people who need food due to advertising?
I would really like to see the 100% model that tells you how this will work.
Originally posted by Freedom or Death
Hmmm watch this
Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 was an attempt to increase the wages of workers.
www.u-s-history.com...
Here they attempted to increase wages by increasing pay.
Today the 40 hour work week has become the norm, actually it has increased to 50 - 60 or decreased to 20 - 30 in attempts to cut costs.
Implemtation of the 20 hour work week would require some modifications to the 1938 attempt to make sure the same mistakes were not made. They did learn from the 1st depression, by going to war before it occurred. Lot's of money was injected into the war Iraq and Afghanistan war effort.
The modifications that would be required are outlined here.
(Solution) Free Energy + 20 Hr Work Wk + Zero Taxes = Freedom
www.abovetopsecret.com...
[edit on 6-6-2010 by Freedom or Death]
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I do not need or want a history lesson ...
I do not care ...
I am not clicking on a link with "free energy" in the title because that pretty much ends it right there. If your entire premise relies on something yet to even exist, then the rest of your non logic really does not matter.
Originally posted by Freedom or Death
Oh you're one of them.
[edit on 6-6-2010 by Freedom or Death]
Originally posted by Freedom or Death
Originally posted by I.C. Weiner
i am all for the 20hr work week - and it will increase productivity, i know that if i am getting paid by the job i will get it done faster, more efficiently and correctly; where as if i am paid by the hour i will "milk it" and take frequent "safety meetings" and a "long lunch"......
and i usually operate on the barter system, bring me what u want fixed and pay me with a case of beer, some herbs and ciggs and we got a deal!!!!
My point exactly.
Thanks for sharing
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I am genuinely interested in ideas like this.
Twice as much labor cost, twice as much production, charging half for products = profits to you.
Originally posted by Freedom or Death
And before the nay sayers come along and claim that we all need to pay these taxes, relax and realize that we really don't. The government will be able to pay for these services by just printing cash.
[edit on 6-6-2010 by Freedom or Death]
www.ustreas.gov... The United States Note functions the same.
The notes have no value for themselves, but for what they will buy. In another sense, because they are legal tender, Federal Reserve notes are "backed" by all the goods and services in the economy.
Both United States Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are parts of our national currency and both are legal tender. They circulate as money in the same way. However, the issuing authority for them comes from different statutes. United States Notes were redeemable in gold until 1933, when the United States abandoned the gold standard. Since then, both currencies have served essentially the same purpose, and have had the same value. Because United States Notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve Notes, their issuance was discontinued, and none have been placed in to circulation since January 21, 1971.