Originally posted by mbayacht
reply to post by Arrowmancer
I have no hate for you,
Never said you did, I was referencing my post. Not me, personally
...that you have to lie because of the inadequecies of your record.
Erm... I never said anything about lying. Presenting your information in a way that is favorable to you has nothing to do with deceit. As a DJ, I
made $250/night. Not that much only two nights a week, but enough to get by on until I could land a decent job. Every job you take, temporary or
otherwise, gives you a higher market value. The point is to sell yourself. You don't see pharmacies selling their medications by advertising their
side-effects, do you?
But let me spell it out for the others, NO intelligent person believes any of that BS! "Audio Coordinator" stuff the only one your fooling is
yourself. If you did get hired for the record they where willing to look past your lie because the job was bad enough and they needed someone bad
enough that all the other candidates where worse.
Wrong again. Such broad, sweeping assumptions do you no justice. Again, it isn't lying or even deceit. While there are savvy people who will catch
on that you were unemployed and just making the bills, if you present yourself well, show that you have knowledge and skill, and how you can make it
valuable to the hiring company, you will get the job you're seeking. Again, it's selling yourself. Your marketable skills come from many places.
A lot of Suits have to go to school to figure out how to talk to people or be leaders in their industry. These days, passion for a thing isn't
looked on favorable and those with a passion for a specific job will normally be looked over for a more 'qualified' candidate. Qualified meaning
they can be completely inept in the duties they are required to perform, but they are the owners of a little slip of paper that took many years and
lots of money to say they know something they might not.
By the way none of your estimates are correct. I am not in HR but do interface with them often, I have never not worked in succesively higher
paying and higher responsibility position since leaving grad school 25 years ago. I know several people that have worked for GE and all I can say is
sorry, I know how bad a company it is to work for.
On the contrary, the subsidiary I work for treats their people well and I'm quite proud to be part of their organization. Looking up from under the
GE umbrella, I can see almost nothing to back such a negative claim. As for your job, congratulations. I hope to one day own the company you work
for. Some of us don't have to go to college or grad school to be successful, though I'll admit it certainly assists in landing critical
I don't look upon the executive types with much love. As a rule, in the industries I work in, they are conniving, money-grubbing, power hungry
buffoons whose goals are not in the benefit of the people of the company or even the consumer, but in the benefit of their own pocketbook and the
bottom line for the company. There are exceptions and I know I've made a sweeping statement here, but I RARELY see evidence to the contrary. These
Suits are the ones who make the decisions and will make their choices based on the bottom line. Sacrificing quality, safety, employment benefits, etc
in the name of the Almighty Dollar might make a few people rich, but it stagnates growth. People who use terms like 'Verbiage, Interfacing, and
Upward Mobility" are for idiots who want to appear more than what they are. Which is why it's totally acceptable to use them on your resume,
because it's the same asinine drivel that they are used to and practice on a daily basis when a few simple words would explain it all much more
Last, if a person resorts to using such a tactic on their resume or at any point in the hiring process, odds are they never want to get into the
Executive arm of the company, but have higher aspirations, such as owning their own business. I commend you for finding a job that pays well and by
your description can tell that you at least are satisfied with where you are. I've sunk a personal venture already due to inadequate ability to
manage it, and so I've learned from my NUMEROUS mistakes and watch those who are successful, learning all the while. In studying the upper echelon
in my company and our affiliates, I am learning how to manage, catching some of their faults, and hoping to improve on their methods without
sacrificing my employees or the quality of service I wish to give my prospective consumer. Information to be used when I have the opportunity to try
again. I'll admit to having zero ability in the arena of top level management, but I'm attempting to change that.
So summing up, you have your opinion and plenty of reasons to back it, and I have mine. We're not going to agree on the issue, but at least we've
made our opinions known. A hiring gap is a fault to you, but an opportunity to me, and easily exploited to the favor of both the person hiring and
their potential candidate. IF, as stated in a previous post, you can pull it off.