Disturbing Job Ads: 'The Unemployed Will Not Be Considered'

I have been unempoloyed for 2 years and I'ts been great. I get over 900€ a month for watching youtube videos, playing videogames and scratching my balls..

I really have no intentions of going back to do some 9 to 5 assembly job for a few extra bucks...

Sweat it lemmings

This is quite disturbing to me I was laid off last February and decided to take advantage of my unemployment situation and go to school and actually make something of myself. I am currently one semester away from graduating (with a 4.0 I didn't waist tax money I appreciated it greatly) and am starting to look for a job. I am finding the same problem I've been out of work to long, so no one wants to hire me, plus I have the added benefit of not having any experience. It’s asinine to me how every company that posts a resume says “needs at least 2,3,4,5 years experience". Please explain to me how anyone is supposed to gain experience if you’re never willing to hire someone who’s green. Its bad business/ management practices to constantly hire seasoned individuals who become complacent in their work. I would rather hire a new individual who has up to date ideas and is willing to push them self to prove what they’re worth.

This should be illegal being a "previous condition of servitude." Also keeping people in the military, being forced to reenlist, or national guards called back again and again should be illegal as unconstitutional.

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

I had a 15 year gap in my employment until Wal-mart hired me in 2007. From age 16 when I worked at Kroger for the summer until Wal-mart hired me in November 2007 I had zilch, except for work study positions 10 hrs/wk at minimum wage. If no one will hire you, how does that make you a job hopper?? I'd think you'd need a job in order to hop around.

It was a constant cycle. I'd get turned down for flipping burgers even for lack of job experience. So then I went to college due to welfare requirements of either work a job or go to college. No one would hire me year after year, so I had to stay in school. Now I'm thousands in the hole with student loans and even worse off than when I began.

And I made excellent grades. I even made dean's list and president's list while in college. Even did two years on student senate. Have I been rewarded for hard work and study? Nope!

How can you not have a job for fifteen years? Thats ridiculous. Are you serious? Thats just pure lazy. Because if I did not have a job for say 4 months I would manage to find one no matter what.

There is no excuse for not having a job for 15 years unless you are either considered below average intelligence or maybe disabled. People do discriminate against some of these types but 15 years.

15 years....lol. ....You have two hopes and one is Bob...the other is none.

You sound like you want a hand out....you said "have i been rewarded for hard work and study?"

What the????? Who cares if you have been on some deans list or presidents list. Unless its Harvard or Cambridge it means nothing....You should not expect reward for doing what ever body else has done as part of normal life.

I would NOT hire you!!! Ever. If someone really wanted to work...they would find a way..even start at the bottom...If you cant get a job flipping burgers as you say..then take a long hard look at yourself. There are foreigners (we have all seen them) who come to what ever country and cant speak English hardly and they are flipping burgers. If you are below them on experience then all I can do is pee my pants laughing.

How the hell do you expect anyone to believe that in 15 years (not days or months) you cant get one job. No wonder companies do not want to hire you!!

Couldnt you think of an online business to do. Your on here letting everyone know about your successes. Why not use that time to start something online. Create a website on Webs.com to start you off. Its free and 15,000,000 others use that site to get themselves up and running. Do you have anything that could pass as an idea for a business? Even baking cookies that people order of line could be cheap and productive.

Use your brain. Why not in all this time write a book on all the CV's you sent out and record each job interview and each failure and try and publish a book on the plight of people like yourself. Here's the title "You think your life is crap, I ahve had no job for 15 years" That book will write itself. You could sew stuff like women do and sell that online. You could sell anything that you could make in sufficient quantity at home. You could of even sell your used underwear to dirty old men as that is a big business in America somewhere. You could of gone into porn...even if ugly, cos there is a market for anything nowadays. You could of designed things and tried to pitch them to companies.
You have had 15 years to sort your life out....amazing. Anyway you probably already feel crap enough so take one of my ideas or ask for more and you will find something. You could even become a preacher and fleece all those dumb Christians in the States. They will gladly hand over money if you tell them some crap about the bible and how there lives are in danger from the sinner and that you can save them..or offer another religion some social integration lessons. easy.

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[edit on 5-6-2010 by C11H17N2NaO2S]

Originally posted by bigcountry08
This is quite disturbing to me I was laid off last February and decided to take advantage of my unemployment situation and go to school and actually make something of myself. I am currently one semester away from graduating (with a 4.0 I didn't waist tax money I appreciated it greatly) and am starting to look for a job. I am finding the same problem I've been out of work to long, so no one wants to hire me, plus I have the added benefit of not having any experience. It’s asinine to me how every company that posts a resume says “needs at least 2,3,4,5 years experience". Please explain to me how anyone is supposed to gain experience if you’re never willing to hire someone who’s green. Its bad business/ management practices to constantly hire seasoned individuals who become complacent in their work. I would rather hire a new individual who has up to date ideas and is willing to push them self to prove what they’re worth.

YES! That is what I am noticing as well. I thought it was just me!

In the video game industry they want you to have at least 1 to 2 games released under your belt to get a job. They plan on not opening entry level jobs at all it seems. This is one of the many reasons why I hope something in 2012 happens. Those dildos deserve it.

I love how the government says go get an education to better yourselves, but companies just won't hire anybody off the block. Now in this day in age it is all about who you know. That is what caused this recession.

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by The Soothsayer
reply to post by Jessicamsa

 

Agreed! Went to college, and same thing with high honors. During my stints of unemployment, went to seminars and certifiable trainings... but everything I do to improve myself and how my resume looks just ends up in the waste bin.

Also, what's always nice to see is the same company that you applied for a month ago putting a new ad out for the same position. Apparently, the person they hired didn't cut it.

Yeah, this one company went and hired someone out of high school instead of me because I was "overqualified." During her short stint with them she had managed to mess up most people's accounts and the company was having to give out a lot of credits and stuff to calm down all the angry customers. After they got rid of her though they still would not hire me. I was still "overqualified" afterall.

What gets me is all the people telling me to go to college and get retraining. I'll tell them all the education I already have and it goes over their heads. Besides, going to college doesn't get you trained for the most part. It just gives you booksmarts for a lot of the fields. All you do is educate yourself out of the available job field and put yourself into debt.

yeah, I have heard companies make those stupid mistakes. Maybe that is what caused this recession as well.

It isn't about the training it is who you know to get a job. It really is bad with that. The way this recession is rolling companies can't afford to trust new blood. I have a job but a delivery service. I graduated back in 2009 and can't find work. What pisses me off now lately is one company took my idea and used it. They didn't hire me but are looking for employees that are qualified to use my idea with experience.


I hope karma bites them in the ass.



[edit on 5-6-2010 by dragnet53]

reply to post by Jessicamsa


BLAH!! So this is why I am not getting a job, this does not make sense!!!! Fricken hell!! I did see some job recruiters write the same thing, but why would people who already have jobs be looking for jobs? Why take that risk? Once I get a job, if I ever get a job I am holding onto it for at least 3 years, or more depending on if I like it. I shouldn't have read this post today!

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by The Soothsayer
OH! Mustn't forget the age old favorite... when employers see an extensive history, you're "over qualified"; they're afraid you will go to some place better.

I'm sorry, but that's bull. I obviously didn't think I'm too good to work here if I applied here in the first place.

Yeah, I got that one a lot. I would apply for jobs just using my associate's degree and be told I was "overqualified."

A lot of people then see all the years no one would hire me and say I'm a bum. During much of that time I went to college and made good grades. When I graduated with my associate's degree, I graduated with honors. During my work to get the bachelor's degree I made dean's and president's list. A bum? Yeah whatever...

They told you, you were "over qualified" because your CV was turd! Would you of preferred them to tell you the truth and say you have wasted their time and you are not worthy of their employ. Unless you are old the "over qualified" line is a fob off because you are a joke.

Im not trying to be horrible. Its sounds horrible but you talk about this associates degree like its worth something. You are so naive. You are competing against people who not only have a nice plump two page CV with references coming out of all orifices but they have proper degrees from respected Uni's. You need to use different tactics to secure yourself employment.

You could find 12 companies you would like to work for. If a position comes up apply. Call the HR director, never the HR manager (they have a chip on their tiny shoulders) or better still go into the damn place in your best outfit (not from wal-mart) and proundly hand them you feeble attempt of a CV and say " You have a position i would like, I would like to make you an offer. If you are willing to interview me and I can impress you somewhat, I am willing to work for FREE for the first month or two to prove I am the woman for the job" You thank him or her for their time and leave.

At the least, you have left an impression, and if their next hire fails you may ONE day get a call. Now if you do this to 40 companies you will get at least two offers. Its the numbers game. But you do it right.

People just cant be bothered anymore and would rather sponge of the Gov...then come on here an moan about them and how hard they are trying. Applying for the odd job here and there is not trying people. In 15 years you could of applied for one a month whcih would not be good but that would be 180 jobs. 2 a month would equal 360 jobs. Now if you have applied for 360 jobs in 15 years and been rejected from every one....you would be the biggest pleb in the world. No one can be rejected from 360 jobs and not realize that they must be doing something wrong.

If so you need to answer these questions

1) when you send off your CV for a job posting is it in fact really a pair of underpants you are sending in....because maybe you would have more luck if you did this.
2) Do you have a CV even just a paragraph about yourself and your qualities.
3) Do you wear your pajamas to any interview you get? This can have a negative result in your quest for employment
4) Do you send a cover letter with your Job application? And if so do you write "To my equal" as the greeting! If so this is a BIG mistake!
5) Are you applying for jobs at your level? Now what I mean is. You have a gap of 15 years. You can hardly expect to start as the CEO of the chosen company. Even with you wielding this associates degree in all its glory I would aim for something VERY LOW I dont normally say this but AIM LOW!
6) How do you come across in an interview. It must be pretty poorly because you mentioned you failed to get a job burger flipping. Did you wear fancy dress to the interview? How could you not get that job????? Did you insult the interviewer? Because if you look in any McD's.....well never mind!

reply to post by mysticalzoe

Because there is a surplus of job applicants. There are jobless and there are those wanting a better job, "pursuing" their careers. In times of high unemployment this happens. Most employers prefer those who will move over those who got fired.

That logic doesn't make sense for many job titles (where it takes a lot of time to train employees), but where expendable human labour force is required it works well.

reply to post by C11H17N2NaO2S


Wow you are kind of rude, you have no idea what their situation is, I didn't work for 10 years because I was raising 3 kids. We couldn't afford daycare, so I decided to stay at home. Would I be considered lazy? I hope not. I have been working on and off for a couple of years now. I went back to work at Old Navy, then went to school to become a CRMA, had that job for 3 months due to lack of management, plus they treated me like crap. My husband suggested I quit, and I did. Then I worked as a Personal Assistant for a doctor, got that job through my husband, I quit that one after 5 months due to the fact that the guy couldn't remember his ass from his elbow. I am an extremely hard worker if anyone would give the chance. Plus, I have a lot of experience with various things.

I can prepare Medical records, 5 years experience with cash handling, 8 years experience with customer service, I can type 41 WPM, I know how to safely give out medication, and I have 14 years experience with various computer applications. I can scan computers for viruses, answer phones, basic office work, filing, and so on. I do not consider myself lazy. I am very active person. So for someone like you to judge someone else because they didn't work for 15 years, is pretty rude! I know stay at home moms who have gone back to school and graduated as Medical Assistants, Phlebotomists, and so on. They were in their 40's!!

Sorry to rant like this but you just touched a very bad spot on this one, and I am done ranting!! Don't even get me started on how lazy stay at home moms are, the modern ones are but I am very old fashioned, and I'll rip you a new one! Before you even suggest why i didn't go to school, because I didn't have the family support to go to school, husband was unwilling to watch the kids when they were younger, and we couldn't afford student loans. I plan on attending college once i get a part time job, so i can my way into college. I plan on getting my associates in science to become a medical assistant. I am 33 years old, I am still young and able to do this.

Darn it I should have not looked at this post today!! In the future I will not look at unemployment, as it is hard for many people to get jobs!! Okay i am officially done!!

reply to post by mysticalzoe



No you have an excuse.....raising three kids is a full time job.!! Rude is not correct. Its a wake up call. I do not understand how in this day and age someone who "chooses" to work can not get a job in 15 years.

I do not know anyone who has not had a job for 15 years. Not even 10 years or even 5. there are things there for people.

The only people i have some simpathy for are those who have gone the normal route from school to Uni and come out with a good degree from a proper uni and wont get hired for lack of experience. This is a catch 22 but there is a way round that.

It comes down to doing what you have to. So what if you have a degree. Its just a piece of paper. You must be will to step down a rung or two and prove to people you have it. Most people will go to uni nowaday get a degree in Business Admin for example and then apply for jobs like Business administrator trainee....WRONG..I would want that trainee to have 1-2 years trainee experience in that field. So apply for secretary in that company or another or a job like that and work your way up. Having a degree does not give you the right to a job. What gives you a right is wanting that job more than the other 50 applicants and proving to the company you want it more. Simply tuening up for an interview in your wal mart suit will a smile on your face does not grant you anything but a foot in the door.

I just re read your rant and I must say that the raising of kids is fine. But the rest is not worthy of hire. You quit one job cos the Doc didnt know his ass from his elbow...so what? You were his PA only. He has an MD you do not..so as long as there is a pay check you suck it up until you see something else that you like. Then you apply whilst still being in employment.

You type 41 wpm....the required leve for a PA / Secretary in the UK or for a MD or director PA job minimum is 60 so you would fail there. I type faster than you. You are a job hopper and that is a no-no. Sorry love but its different nowadays out there. To many idiots and not enough heros. Thats why the number one rule is...."never quit your job till you have a start date for another"


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Whether intended or not, the end result is to exclude US citizens from the qualified job-applicant pool in favor of h-1b replacement workers from India.

h-1B visa holders are always employed (typically by Tata, Infosys, Sat-yam, and other Bangalore body shops such as India-based IBM), and enjoy relative immunity to layoffs and priority of hire.

The insidious of this is that US workers are coerced into training their foreign replacements prior to being fired, and, to throw salt into the wound, are summarily excluded from future job opportunities.

The problem will probably get a lot worse for US citizens as leftist Republicans, all Democrats, and obama's Commie czars continue to call for more h-1b replacement workers to take our jobs and send us to the unemployment lines. The h-1b community, led by NASSCOM, has powerful lobby organizations that will ensure this happens.

Well to anyone I have offended...probably just the unemployed......Have you considered moving to where there is more viable work for your trade? Yes there are expenses but could you not travel to these places just to look and interview then move once an offer comes in.

Just a suggestion guys as I do feel for some.

It reminds me of those adverts or commercials of Africa....

They come on at Christmas and say...."these poor women of such and such village have to walk 5 km to a well for fresh water and 5km back each day to bring water to the village and the kids."

I think to myself....why dont the villagers move closer to the water well? They have nothing to keep them at their current village so move....doesnt take to much common sense...then I found out it boils down to pride and tradition..they ahve lived in this "village" (just mud huts) for years and so did theri parents etc.

Stupidity is rife world wide. People find an excuse to make their lives harder. The unemployed (some of them - the long term) always have an excuse....normally based around pride or tradition.





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reply to post by Totalstranger


Good for you, you'll go far. I mean after all, we know all the people in the highest positions today are dishonest. I am starting to think this is a requirement for those that want to be successful. I mean my dad was and he's rolling in it. Everyone I know that's rolling in it has been dishonest about something!!! Well, I know you'll do good. You may have a set back now, but you will definately get ahead I predict!

reply to post by ldyserenity

Now we are catching on....this guy is on the right path.

Just choose it carefully!

Rolling on the floor laughing my a** off .

If you think this is that bad ,try being handicapped and finding a decent job!!!

I went to several companies I had worked for in the past and left on good terms..never burn a bridge unless you have too.

Every one of them always gave me an excuse why they couldnt hire me
or either gave me a nice were not hiring even after I had talked to a friend to make sure they were hiring even documented that they hired a person for the position I had applied for even was able to get a copy of his application that showed he had virtually no experience .

So I say, welcome to the world of descrimination jobless people!!!

reply to post by Jessicamsa


This is what happens when your government doesnt take adequate measures to prevent companies ignoring thier civic responsibility . Firms should not be allowed to discriminate against people who are not already happily employed elsewhere.

Actually, there is nothing in law that says that employers cannot discriminate against people who don't have a job.

If you've been unemployed for a long period of time, it's likely that you are out of touch with your chosen profession.

Many employment experts will tell you that the absolute best thing you can do while unemployed is to volunteer your skills and services for a local community organization, so that you can keep your talents fresh and up to date.

Many people on unemployment have not done this, despite there being a large pool of talent untapped that charities and community organizations desperately need.

If you volunteer while you are unemployed, many employers view this the same as employment experience and you will get extra consideration against someone who's just used that time sitting on the couch.

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reply to post by babybunnies


Employment = PAID TO WORK. Anything else would automaticaly define you as unsuitable for the jobs refered to in this article and the thread which spawned from it.
So what you said, while accurate , would still not affect people who want that job.

Originally posted by TrueBrit

This is what happens when your government doesnt take adequate measures to prevent companies ignoring thier civic responsibility . Firms should not be allowed to discriminate against people who are not already happily employed elsewhere.

We don't need more big government intervention on this. Why should a firm hire someone who's been out of touch with their profession for months or years, versus someone who's kept themselves up to date and either employed or volunteered their services while unemployed?

What you do with your time while on unemployment is a HUGE reflection of what sort of person you are.

This is not about a company's civic responsibility - it's about an individual's civic responsibility and great opportunity to get involved with their community rather than sitting on their behind while the rest of us pay their bills with our tax dollars. If they don't take advantage of lending their skills to a worthy cause, then why should an employer consider them?

We need LESS government regulation, not more.

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