Disturbing Job Ads: 'The Unemployed Will Not Be Considered'

reply to post by Muckster


Hey Muck. You just became unemployed recently? I been their since march
2008, with a break from Jan to March of 2009 in between. U. I. the whole time at $410.00 a week. I should be thankful I know and I am, But.

It has really, really made me very suspicious, of what the hell I'm being passified for. Evewrytime I recieve a check I ask myself or whoever is around. What in the hell is up? I know there has to be some reason that
is flying under the radar and I am just not picking it up. It's either an extreme example of a fiat currency. Or passification of somekind for something .
Any ideas? Anybody?

[edit on 4-6-2010 by randyvs]

It's somewhat wrong, but it's more bold than wrong
I have been on the IT recruiting side myself
And when I looked at candidate's resumes there's too many holes

Too many resumes with gaps in their employment, I did not consider those

I wasn't necessarily skipping candidates unemployed and looking for jobs, but rather people who have a tendency to job hop, and job hoppers are unemployed often.

It's a though world man, that's why you always got to work and study hard!

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
It's somewhat wrong, but it's more bold than wrong
I have been on the IT recruiting side myself
And when I looked at candidate's resumes there's too many holes

Too many resumes with gaps in their employment, I did not consider those

I wasn't necessarily skipping candidates unemployed and looking for jobs, but rather people who have a tendency to job hop, and job hoppers are unemployed often.

It's a though world man, that's why you always got to work and study hard!

I had a 15 year gap in my employment until Wal-mart hired me in 2007. From age 16 when I worked at Kroger for the summer until Wal-mart hired me in November 2007 I had zilch, except for work study positions 10 hrs/wk at minimum wage. If no one will hire you, how does that make you a job hopper?? I'd think you'd need a job in order to hop around.

It was a constant cycle. I'd get turned down for flipping burgers even for lack of job experience. So then I went to college due to welfare requirements of either work a job or go to college. No one would hire me year after year, so I had to stay in school. Now I'm thousands in the hole with student loans and even worse off than when I began.

And I made excellent grades. I even made dean's list and president's list while in college. Even did two years on student senate. Have I been rewarded for hard work and study? Nope!

This is a disgusting practice. It should be illegal to discriminate against anyone for a job, especially the unemployed who truely need a job, especially when unemployment is so high

Well now I know why I'm still unemployed since Feb of 08'

It stinks that it's not illegal unless is specifically effects minorities differently.....

There is no law prohibiting discrimination against the unemployed, though advocates said the practice could be illegal if it had a "disparate impact" on minority groups.

www.huffingtonpost.com...


You can't discriminate based on race, sex, sexual preferrence, religion, disability, etc, but you can discriminate based on someone's employment status. What a crock !

reply to post by Jessicamsa


I feel you man
But 15 years is alot
I'm more than positive that there were at the very least telemarketing jobs available
Those guys will hire anyone and I firmly believe that

I'm not saying you didn't try or were picky
but it is hard to believe though i'm sorry

I'm not saying it's impossible though

However from my perspective consider IT as very different

I admit I may be wrong and you may be right though

In my current position and my previous position I recruit all the new staff.

I have to be honest, if someone is not employed or has too many jobs on their CV they go to the bottom of the pile, then I go through and cherry pick the most qualified, employed candidates to interview first, if I don't find someone I like then I go back to the not as desirable resumes. Do you know why we do this? Because it costs the business time and money to train people and we have to get the best people we can so we don't waste money.

However, here in Ontario, the province is paying a portion of wages for people to re-enter the work force so I have a couple of people working for me through this program. These people are disabled in some way so they would not be getting on with me any other way so it is a good program. One of them is finished the initial period that I get compensated for and is still with me.

Originally posted by habfan1968
I have to be honest, if someone is not employed or has too many jobs on their CV they go to the bottom of the pile...

Thats why I was vague enough that everyone that called me thought I was still employed.

reply to post by chise61


Hey Chise, sorry about the situation you are in. I have contacts all over N.A. What field are you looking to get into and what region would like to be?

This is BS. I guess these employers don't bother to take into account the millions of people who have lost their jobs to OUTSOURCING....which is how I lost my last job which was luckily before the huge spike in unemployment and I was able to find a job within a few months.

So....

You lose your job to outsourcing because our tariffs are next to nothing and stockholders of those companies see dollar signs with a lift in stock values for slave labor and weak environmental laws in other countries...

And the ones still here PENALIZE you for it?

I've never heard it so openly put, but this has been true as long as I can remember. The longer you are without a job, the harder it is to get hired. It is easier to get hired while you're working than it is to get hired while you're not.

The lesson is that it's better to take a job that is beneath you than it is to stay unemployed for a lengthy period of time.

If you think there are a lot of catch-22s in the ordinary job market, you should try show business. It's really brutal in that market.

This policy hurts small businesses. Here's how.

I currently am employed for a small technology consulting company of 5 people. We are doing ok, but things have slowed down a bit, so the future is a little uncertain.

With me knowing companies don't hire people who are unemployed, the consequences of me losing my job are severe. So if I get offered a job right now, I'm leaving here because I can't take the chance of losing my job.

If people didn't have this stupid "don't hire unemployed", the risk for me wouldn't be so serious, so I would be more likely to keep working for this company (because I like the people).

So in the end, this stupid policy could hurt this small business I work for.

reply to post by harrytuttle


Harry

the other way to look at is if the business is slow and there are 5 of you there and you leave for an opportunity you may actually be helping the place you are leaving and the 4 others who are still employed there. So at the end of the day you could be saving the business and securing 4 jobs by moving on.

I have a gap in my employment because my last job wouldn't allow part time for me to go to school.

Since then, I've had an interview that said that being a student is not considered a sufficient explanation for the gap of my employment. This interview was the third interview out of the "process" and it was just for worstbuy. I even had retail experience. I wish they would have just told me that in the first interview instead of wasting my time.

Now I just lie about my employment history.

reply to post by Coolaid


for the most part prospective employers will know you are lying about what is on you resume so it actually works against you in the long run.

1) You got fired 2) You quit your job without another job lined up...aka...you left in a hurry.

How could you possibly leave out the possibility of someone getting laid off, probably the most likely scenario many of the current employed found themselves in.

I worked for a small bakery, making decent money for the area, working about 48 hours a week. Ingredients started getting more expensive, as a result our wages and pay were cut practically in half, an "incentive" program was implemented to ensure that regardless how many hours we worked we took home the same amount of pay each week. Then came the layoffs. The sad truth of the matter is that I am making the same amount of money on unemployment(based on the time I was making decent money working 48 hours/wk) that I was working at the bakery under the new pay plan.

I've used this time to enroll in school though, online classes, for something that I've been wanting to do for a while. Currently enrolled in game and simulation programming classes. 4 year degree will be had in about 2 yrs and 8 months total.

I'm trying to use this time to better myself, since there really isn't work to be had around here, aside from jobs where I would be underemployed, and would be in a worse off financial situation than I am now on unemployment.

Being unemployed was not a choice, nor was it a result of me being a bad employee, on the contrary, I was very good at what I did, so much so that before all these hardships happened I had one of the few jobs in the bakery where I could make my own hours and was trusted to work alone.

Some people's circumstances are beyond their control, and this type of discrimination only serves to widen the gap between the haves and have nots.

BTW: Getting laid off is not the same as being fired. Laid off implies the company has eliminated your job because business has declined, or other financial hardship. It is also not considered quitting.

Many states have different laws but here in NY i believe that if you are fired or quit your job you are not entitled to unemployment benefits. Being laid off, you are, so I was thankful for that at least.

[edit on 4-6-2010 by djzombie]

In these times where 500 or more people show up with carefully crafted resumes and qualifications above and beyond those required for the temporary janitorial position available this makes perfect sense.

I paid someone to put air in my tires the other day, another to wash my windows and mirrors, I bought rotten fruit from someone, I bought some old paperback books and DVD's from another. None of these people have jobs, but they were not begging.

There but for the grace of God go I.

Times are bad my friends, don't look the other way, soon it will come to you.

It is going to get worse, much worse.

America is a funny place. The rich are rolling in it. They are making money and everyone else is bailing them out. But the thought of changing the political system to something more Socialist is total anathema. How about the rich give up some of that cash? There's plenty to go round, but they have all of it.

The amazing thing is that I will be attacked for this.

thats bull!

I suggest anyone who doesnt want a gap do what I have done. I know several local businesses that have gone under and I have said I worked there before they went out of business. the phone number and address can come straight from a phone book, and you can make up a name of your superiors. as far as not having any futher contact info, well who has there bosses home phone number?

BTW I have done this twice and plan to again if necessary. dishonest? yes, but not as bad as the BS that OP just posted

We can't have that rizla... that would be called "redistribution of wealth."

Nevermind the bank bailouts, the largest redistribution of wealth in the history of the world to the already wealthiest 1%, courtesy of the american tax payer.

[edit on 4-6-2010 by djzombie]

Currently Iam earning less than two thirds what I was earning 20 years ago(OK I was getting a very good wage then) but I know today Iam a more diligent and hardworking dutitful human being, but guess what?

Those whose work ethic is on par to mine two decades a go are earning the big bucks.

There is no logic or fairness to life sometimes.

I have seen honest hardworking friends go under, and I have seen others thrive.

To the newly unemployed all I can say from experience is DO NOT EVER FEEL SORRY FOR YOURSELF.... DO NOT ASK FOR CHARITY OR UNDERSTANDING....DO NOT EXPECT SALVATION.
You are worth more than that.
You are the difference between survival and going under.
You...You....you!!!!!!!!
Never give up, never ever give up.
Fight and grow as a human being.
And be kind to you, and others once you recover.
Its up to you, not your enemy.