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The Dishonesty & Danger Inherent In The seeingUFOsPA Hoax

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posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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YES...UFOS EXIST....WE ARE BEING VISITED. This is not in contention here. What is in contention is that we do not believe Alison Kruse is seeing UFOs. She says otherwise but the evidence clearly points to her knowing that these are not UFOs and that she is purposefully mis-leading the masses into thinking that what she is filming is indeed from another world.

THE WOMAN HAS BEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE A FRAUD.

She is purposefully deteriorating the fabric of Ufology.

THERE IS NO DENYING THE LATTER.




posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:04 PM
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EXACTLY! Like i said before i believe 100% Aliens have been visiting at least since the 1940's and looks like ancient times as well. Just look at the National Press Club and the Rendlesham Forest incident and so many prominent people like Gordon Cooper ect. When i disagreed with Alison i was attacked and called a liar and skeptic or disinfo person you name it and attacked for my UFO sightings. I did not provide pictures of planes or video footage of planes mind you just talking in a vlog. It became clear she was not in this for UFOligy but personal gain. This woman is ignorant beyond belief it makes my skin crawl. She has resorted to using her orb ranch to lure young teens to her lair so that she may seduce them. Drunk, acting like a teenage girl slurring in ebonics, cursing like a drunken sailor this woman is of poor charter. This may be the bi-product of her delusion. I feel for her children for such a poor upbringing. They have to be utterly embarrassed in school and in any social setting.

She has single handed defaced , vandalized, desecrated , mocked , raped , pillaged , defecated on UFOligy with her blasphemy.

Z Army gave her the smack down she deserved






[edit on 11-6-2010 by Unknown Soldier]



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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Wow, thanky you all for introducing that wonderful lady Ms.Alison to me.

I love her pornvoice and inspiring use of words in descibing the wonderful Invention of Aeroplanes: Blinky, Plasma, Bubble,Orbs, Guy, Epic Invasion, Orion Transmission,...

Seriously, for me it is clear that she is not only a hoaxer but also retarded.

I mean i respect some of the better hoaxes, but this is just cheap.


@sandwich

Are you Michel Horn, did Billy fire you? Poor Michael, we all love and miss you.



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 06:48 PM
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reply to post by Conluceo
 


Conluceo.....



As for the topic, I saw one of the videos, and from what I saw, I't looked pretty convincing...


Kruse is a dishonest & dangerous hoaxer.

I hope you can review the material & see that for yourself.

Thank you for your interesting report of your own experience.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 11 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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Here is an oldie but a goodie that Alison had removed from Youtube but I managed to re-up on a another site.

Enjoy!

tinypic.com...



posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA
Here is an oldie but a goodie that Alison had removed from Youtube but I managed to re-up on a another site.

Enjoy!

tinypic.com...


Yes, I remember this one! I was astounded when she claimed the bugs

flying past the camera were ""ORBS"".



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA
Here is an oldie but a goodie that Alison had removed from Youtube but I managed to re-up on a another site.

Enjoy!

tinypic.com...


I actually forgot about this one. Clearly bugs, from snow flakes to planes to birds and bugs. Alison will call anything a UFO, and there are people actually stupid enough to buy her crap...
amazing



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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It just boggles the mind how each and every of her videos gets debunked and yet some people still believe in her B/S. Yes in the above video she once tried to pass off summer footage of that being filmed during winter. She went back and tried to change the dates but that all fell apart in her lap. Eventually she ended her video saying she pulled the plug on that camera facing her home because she could not bare to know what was buzzing near her windows....YEAH RIGHT!
DOES THIS SOUND RATIONAL. She literally drops a bombshell by saying that orbs fly right up to her window but then says that she will not continue filming the orbs because she is better off not knowing that they are peeping in on her....YEAH RIGHT!
I cant remember how many times I busted because as soon As I posted the videos she had them red flagged and removed.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Let it be known Dan Page is NOT and i repeat is NOT a police officer. He even admits he is not a cop but a glorified mall cop, debit collector gun/can of mace for hire lol. Where does Alison find these people? This is a disturbing trend, i can not stomach the existence of these falsers. In this economy some people will do anything for the prospect of money. Or the attention. Fear the orbs Alison lol.



[edit on 13-6-2010 by Unknown Soldier]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 04:45 PM
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Oh my, is Alison still filming aeroplanes?

How can anyone not see these are just aeroplanes? The mind boggles.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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I been reviewing the posts on Appilachianhero's channel and Dan Page is over stepping his bounds. I recommended to Mr. Appilachianhero to make a formal complaint of aggravated harassment over an electronic device against Mr. Dan Page. I also informed him to reach out to those that supervise him over at Butler county and have them look into the threats that Mr. Appilachianhero is receiving from Dan and his cohorts. As a former member of the "Shadoe" group, Dan Page stands to lose quite a bit. The insults that Mr. Dan Page has hurled at this innocent man just because he dared to post a video that exposed ALison Kruse, are just unacceptable. Obviously Dan is not the sharpest knife in the shed.

[edit on 13-6-2010 by SeeingUFOzPA]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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I noticed Dan Page using his "bill collector" tactics and intimidation on that Chanel. First he impersonates a police officer which i might add is a criminal offense he is now making death threats. These fanatics will do anything to stop the exposure of the hoax. Even commit criminal acts. Another example why they are considered dangerous and dishonest.



[edit on 13-6-2010 by Unknown Soldier]



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
I noticed Dan Page using his "bill collector" tactics and intimidation on that Chanel. First he impersonates a police officer which i might add is a criminal offense he is now making death threats. These fanatics will do anything to stop the exposure of the hoax. Even commit criminal acts. Another example why they are considered dangerous and dishonest.


Unknown Soldier.....

So now we are getting to the one of the key reasons I established this thread.


This is a key part of the "dishonesty & danger inherent in the seeUFOsPA hoax".

So.....

What can we do about it?

Come on.....

We must have enough intelligence, experience & resources amongst us to get traction on this important issue.

So.....

What's to be done?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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I say report him for starters, I am sure that the county of Butler would be very interested to know that one of its constable is engaging in criminal activity. At the bare minimum he is condoning the usage of laser lights on inbound airplanes trying to land at local airports in the Murrysville area. At the most maximum he is part of a youtube gang that intimidates and harasses people that dare to supply evidence against his cult leader, Alison Kruse.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA
I say report him for starters, I am sure that the county of Butler would be very interested to know that one of its constable is engaging in criminal activity. At the bare minimum he is condoning the usage of laser lights on inbound airplanes trying to land at local airports in the Murrysville area. At the most maximum he is part of a youtube gang that intimidates and harasses people that dare to supply evidence against his cult leader, Alison Kruse.


SeeingUFOzPA.....

So.....

We have death threats, aircraft threats, etc...

Perhaps we could collate actionable offenses & entities to which Kruse & her supporters can be reported, including but not limited to:

- Authorities local to Kruse & her supporters (e.g. police, airports, schools, etc...)

- Authorities of greater scope than the above (e.g. FAA, etc...)

- Senior executives of Youtube

- Other public entities promoting her hoaxes (e.g. radio shows, websites, on-line forums, etc...)

As per my previos posts.....

Perhaps we could implement some of the background searches pertaining to Kruse & her supporters.

There is bound to be a huge amount of publicly available background information pertaining to Kruse & her supporters, including but not limited to:

- Financial history

- Legal history

- Address history

- Employment history

- Social history

- Communications history

- Internet history





Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA

THE WOMAN HAS BEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE A FRAUD.

She is purposefully deteriorating the fabric of Ufology.

THERE IS NO DENYING THE LATTER.



You said the fabric of Ufology? That sounds sarcastic, what do you mean by saying the
fabric of Ufology? Never heard that phrase before so I would like to ask you what do you
mean with this phrase.

Also what Ufology means for you. But please don't reply in capital letters, there's no
need to shout, thank you.



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 11:40 PM
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Maybe...maybe not


Yes you are correct. This woman and her clan of degenerates are a menace. They need to be dealt with swiftly and accordingly before some gets hurt or killed. Alison has all the tell tale delusions and regard as Marshall Applewhite. Death threats are a serious matter , we do not know if or if not these nutters would act upon them. I can see Alison seducing one of these young boys and brainwashing them to kill for her means. A person as delusional as Alison does not know the difference between her artificial world and reality.

It is difficult to contact youtube staff at all. But she is on paper for her laser pointing and is not uploading the videos where she may be still doing this.

Im sure if her cohorts illegal activity is reported to the proper authorities something could be done. I think there is some legality that dictates making death threats via electronic device is subject to prosecution. I would have to look in to that and point apalacianhero in the right direction. Mr Dan page thinks WE are all the same person lol. How could we be when we clearly live in different time zones, Midwest, West Coast and East coast from our video footage? Another instance of paranoid and delusional thinking. This is disturbing to know.




Originally posted by free_spirit

Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA

You said the fabric of Ufology? That sounds sarcastic, what do you mean by saying the
fabric of Ufology? Never heard that phrase before so I would like to ask you what do you
mean with this phrase.

Also what Ufology means for you. But please don't reply in capital letters, there's no
need to shout, thank you.


I think what he means is Hoaxing sidetracks real research and those who seek truth. I have heard it used before , what is you're point? The topic is

The Dishonesty & Danger Inherent In The seeingUFOsPA Hoax

If you could provide some input regarding this subject and what you think of Alison Kruse hoax and the dangerous behavior that follows that would be great.





[edit on 13-6-2010 by Unknown Soldier]



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by free_spirit

Originally posted by SeeingUFOzPA

THE WOMAN HAS BEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE A FRAUD.

She is purposefully deteriorating the fabric of Ufology.

THERE IS NO DENYING THE LATTER.



You said the fabric of Ufology? That sounds sarcastic, what do you mean by saying the
fabric of Ufology? Never heard that phrase before so I would like to ask you what do you
mean with this phrase.

Also what Ufology means for you. But please don't reply in capital letters, there's no
need to shout, thank you.


I would suggest to you that SeeingUFOzPA's means Kruse is one the culprits who is actively trying to destroy the credibility that people are trying to bring to the UFOlogical community.

You're being pedantic mate! What are you really trying to say? I believe there's another motive to your post.

IRM



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
Perhaps we could collate actionable offenses & entities to which Kruse & her supporters can be reported, including but not limited to:

- Authorities local to Kruse & her supporters (e.g. police, airports, schools, etc...)

- Authorities of greater scope than the above (e.g. FAA, etc...)

- Senior executives of Youtube

- Other public entities promoting her hoaxes (e.g. radio shows, websites, on-line forums, etc...)


Perhaps collected into one big file so it may be more easily distributed to both the proper authorities, websites and UFO media?

I think perhaps there should be a blog chronicling Ms. Alison's antics, her hoaxes and death-threats, a one-stop source for the history of the situation , any new developments and air-tight debunking of her claims.

We should call it the "Can't Stop the Signal Project", a reference to Ms. Alison's attempts to shut down any critics.

I'll be willing to help out however I can.


Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
Perhaps we could implement some of the background searches pertaining to Kruse & her supporters.


That might be going too far. We want to expose Ms. Alison and her supporters as hoaxers; their financial records and addresses are irrelevant to that and could expose them to actual harm.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

I think perhaps there should be a blog chronicling Ms. Alison's antics, her hoaxes and death-threats, a one-stop source for the history of the situation , any new developments and air-tight debunking of her claims.



On one hand, I agree that a more public record is necessary to out Kruse. On the other hand I fear it will only give the Kruse footage a wider audience, sparking more skeptics AND believers. With public ignorance, as rampant as it is, its not hard to imagine how many more would fall hook line and sinker for her claims.

Also, Doomsday, we need your old AVI back. It just doesn't look right on Blackout's profile. I mean come on. It's just wrong. The AVI, in my opinion, is supposed to be a representation and extension of your central nervous system. Blackout needs his own, not someone else's. Just my 2 cents...



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