We are living in a very troubled time right now. There is a huge oil catastrophe going on in the Gulf of Mexico.
There is a major crisis brewing in the Middle East between Israel and most of the rest of the area.
There is racial hatred and profiling going on in several states especially in places like Arizona.
There is fear of a renewed Korean war.
I think you all get my point. The problem I have noticed lately though on ATS, is very few threads or members are actually offering any real solutions
or ideas. There is a lot of name calling. Finger pointing. Accusations. Even some unfortunate hatred.
I will be the first to admit, I have also been one to point fingers and accuse. Maybe not at members, but at corporations, the US Government, other
ATS is about denying ignorance. Some of us are ignoring ignorance, or even enhancing it. We need to get together and try to help figure out solutions
to some of the worlds problems and then work to get them noticed and possibly even put into action. We don't have to all agree. In fact the freedom
not to agree is what allows most all of us to even be on here.
But let's try to work together. I don't always have solutions. Or even ideas for helping some of our problems in the world right now. But some of us
are bickering as much as North and South Korea or Israel and Turkey. Infighting and name calling will get us nowhere.
Gonna date myself here, but when I was in college still, my junior year, we took a month long trip to what was still the U.S.S.R. The Soviet Union.
The trip was meant as a means of exposing us to other cultures. Cities in contrast. Other ways of life. And it did.
It was January 1989. It was before the Berlin Wall came down. The Warsaw Pact was still in effect. Mikhiel Gorbachev had just started glasnost and
perestroika. Openness and restructuring.
We were just a bunch of dumb college kids. Our last night in Moscow. Top floor bar of the Kocmoc hotel. We were all pretty drunk. Had been there for
several hours. There was a Russian man who had been circulating between the rooms of the bar playing an accordion. Cultural songs. Russian folk songs.
He finally came around to us. He came up and said "I play. You sing." We all looked at each other curiously wondering what we knew about Russian
He started playing Hey Jude. We started singing. In the 10-15 mins of in going on...a lot of na na na na's.... we noticed others had joined us. There
were Germans. French. Britons. Russians. Chinese. Poles. I counted like 12 or 13 different languages. By the time it was over, that entire room of the
bar was singing this song. In English. No one cared about political ideology. No one cared about the Cold War. We took a situation, and for a few
minutes anyways, we made it better. We might not have solved all the worlds problems that night or any of them for that matter, but the 50 or so of us
in that room took a step in the right direction.
Come on ATS. Let's work together again and take another step in that direction....
Consciously-crisp style thead set among uncertainty and fear.
I certainly remember times on holiday when we all ended together, as if by fate, drinking and telling stories in foreign languages. But it was the
common body language and the outward expression of positive emotion which cut through all langauge boundaries that made us equal, if only for a
Anyway, the only solution I have to the problems you cite is the internet itself. Too many people are becomming intellectually pampered and physically
unchallenged by spending too much time on it!
You cannot learn something unless you understand the connection between a stimulus and response. We just don't fully get this on the net! Information
is abused and people tend to get educated by measuring their knowledge of perception by someone else's absence of same.
Get off the net for a week or a month and get out there as much as possible. Visit another country or read a challenging book. Just try to expand your
mind without the aid of pixels! It will refresh your approach, if not your mind.
''We are living in a very troubled time right now''.
I think we are always living in troubled times, as long as Governments have guns and an overabundance of power coupled with the inability to act for
and on behalf of their people, there will always be danger.
I agree. Too much of what people these days know about the world is learned on the internet. Not through personal experience.
I was hoping to use it as a medium to accomplish what I'm referring to here, but your totally correct. Without knowledge outside the net, it's hard
to get some points across.
I'm afraid though that too many people don't want solutions. They would rather listen to doom and gloom and spread it. Good news doesn't sell. Only
bad news does. I know this is a conspiracy site, but it seems like too many people would still rather live with it, than try to do something about
Man! you really want to teach the world to sing? all tension and ignorance is down to only learning things on the internet lol! I live in the real
world and it is a jungle of hatred my friend.
There are many reasons why there still is so much division, the main reason is because of human nature. We as a species are pre-determined to seek out
like minded individuals and dislike people who don't agree with our view of the world. There is NO! solution to it, mankind is and always will be
Its alright for the Beatles to sing "All you need is love" and other such hallmarky slogans but at the end of they day everyone loved them, they
never got hated on. They had no clue what it feels like to be stuck in the rat race of life....
lol..This really had nothing to do with the Beatles per se. It had to do with people of different nationalities different political and religious
backgrounds putting aside their differences for a few minutes and coming together(no pun intended). It was the mood. It was lightened. The mood needs
to lighten here....
We really didn't make a difference that night, but we can here I think....if we try and we really want to.
And yes they did get hated on. Just ask John about that after he said they were bigger than jesus.
Wait a minute. You can't do that. The real world got to him and ended him all too soon.
Actually Mark david chapman got to him, not the real world as the killer was obviously insane. As for saying "They were bigger than Jesus" well it
was true and did nothing but give them bucket loads of free publicity.
Originally posted by webpirate
Unfortunately, everyone seems to have missed my entire point here.
I applaud your efforts my friend. I've been trying to do the same for months, years even, but it seems that people just will not listen, or they
miss the point entirely. Don't stop fighting the good fight. I am still hopeful that one day all people will come together as one voice. Until
then, we will still have the crap that exists today.
S&F for you, because you are trying to raise awareness.
It seems like only doom and gloom have been selling here lately though. Especially in the last few months. Even SkepticOverlord tried to get people to
rationalize and come together. People don't seem want that though lately.
I was trying to lighten the mood a little bit with a story from my past. One that has always stuck in my mind. A group of multinational strangers in
the middle of Moscow during the Cold War. Even those who's countries weren't on good terms putting it all aside.
It's usually the leaders, not the citizens who are the trouble makers for the countries. Lately, it seems some citizens, in the US at least, have
been just as bad. Stop fighting each other, and start fighting TBTP more.
Great thread, but as a new member here I see this site as a microcosim of society.
Unfortunately not all the strong are worthy, some are just cowards who hide in numbers.
And some of the weak are in fact the strongest for they stand alone.
The OP may be sane and true but plenty want division and reasons for their unfulfilled lives ie something to blame.
We all visit here for controversy?
To deny ignorance? perhaps
For answers ?
There are plenty of threads that offer answers they unfortunately are ignored ,or the posts contained within are ignored.
To understand an answer one must seek understanding.
There is a big chunk of all of us that seeks the division you describe.
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