reply to post by MischeviousElf
-Thank you for bringing Meditation and opening the discussion on Buddhism on the boards, this is always good.
-However as a fellow practitioner with a very limited amount of experience, I certainly would not call myself enlightened, I feel I must point out
(lol) a few things about the true nature of Enlightenment and mind, so that others especially those first looking into this, may have a balanced view,
and also to correct any discrepencies between anything stated and what the actual Buddha and other Buddhist masters have actually taught.
I appreciate it, so long as you use citations if you are going to be quoting the Buddha. If I quote the Buddha it usually comes from
-By the way, what stage or level of enlightenment would you say that you have obtained?
I have been meditating for 7 years, and associate myself with my true nature and not my body, intellectually speaking. I've read many of the ancient
teachings and all of the most well known, extensively researching the best. I have meditated to the point of changing my perspective on life a long
time ago, as such going against the grain of the world rather than along with it.
-Are you in Nirvana now?
One can not be in nivrana since nirvana is literally the detachment from the aggregates. The transcendental state has no state to be in, but rather it
is the state, knowing this idea allows you to expand your mind. I know this well and associate my self with it. I can enter into samadhi for as long
as I want, usually it can be twenty minutes at a time or longer.
-What is the differance between Nirvana and Samsara?
Samsara is the cycle of rebecoming, nirvana is the ending of this cycle by cutting off of attachments. Once you are completely detached, that is
liberation, the opposite of samsara. Samsara is a noun, nirvana is a verb. Nirvana is however sometimes used as a noun to imply a perfect peace.
-Originally posted by filosophia
I'm doing this because I'm BORED!
This confuses me if you are enlightened, or at a high state. You want to teach and discuss Buddhism because you are Bored?
Because I enjoy it. I'm not bored so long as I am thinking about it. I'm not really bored I just like to joke around sometimes, you can't be
serious all the time.
-Not to benefit and help other beings?
-Is your mind therfore like a monkey at the moment locked in an house, and has to go to a window and look outside, or run around the house unable to
be perfetly content to just be?
No, my mind knows its origin, and can bath in it whenever it pleases, and then once this has been done, washed of all impurity, it can enjoy life
again, not as a monkey but as a real human being ought to experience life. With reverence and witness.
-The whole point of meditation is to find the center of your consciousness
Mind has a center?
Mind is the center, in that the Mind creates thoughts, so Mind Itself is the immaterial process by which thoughts are created. In Buddhism, the
process of empirical consciousness is not a permanent essence, but rather a collective bundle of thoughts. To liberate yourself from this empirical
consciousness is to become conscious of the eternal nature of consciousness, which is the basis of the Dharma.
-Is your consciousness seperate from mind, seperate from all, it has a position?
Empirical consciousness is attached to the body, and mentation is connected to soul and body. Mind and Soul can be used synonymously if the Mind is
meditating on the Soul, and the Mind no longer attaches to body but becomes one with the Soul.
These are sensory perceptions connected to bodily organs, the mind is what allows you to see colors, taste tastes, and smell smells. The "you" is
the backdrop to these perceptions. If you turn your perception away from physical aggregates and towards your own mind, then you will start to "see"
"hear" "feel" your own soul. But only on a metaphorical sense.
-What is it actually about your mind that is fixed, unchanging, not moving or truley seperate?
The self beyond the mind. That which is beyond my physical actions and my mental processes, all the way to my will itself, that is my true nature.
When you feel its disconnect to the body you start to realize it is beyond your body and in the realm of your mind. Your mind begins to expand in the
unlimited space that is beyond your body.
After that, meditation is really about breaking free of your physical consciousness and raising upwards in your mind until you reach the point where
your mind becomes engulfed in light or "enlightened" and it feels as if you go out of your body into the realm of your mind
-In fact as one recnt Lama/Yogi with over 35 years of being an Monk Teacher who is very well regarded said in a teaching whilst I was there, this is
to be avoided, that:
Some people think that when they feel like they are about to fly or float, or their mind goes of into space this is meditation, it is not, it is just
another projection fantasy imagination
He was teaching specifically on mindfulness.
But being mindful is also a defect when it comes to absolute nirvana (paranirvana). So by his standards any teaching is therefore mute. Imagination is
perceiving images, and the highest image of the mind is the light of enlightenment. Higher than this is the reasoning which discerns the difference
between duality and non-duality. To know non-duality is to know the true nature of your soul, which is not a figurative thing. Your knowledge of it
goes beyond imagination.
-By turning your mind away from your body and towards your soul
You/we have souls? and they are seperate from the Mind?
Turn your mind away from the world and towards yourself. That is as simple as it can be put. There is technically only One Supreme Soul, but your self
is this soul in its highest form.
-Have you read Buddhas teachings on No Atman?
Yes, and it is meant as a practical device. The Buddha first says to his followers that there is no self, so they detach from physical pleasures. Then
he teaches them the Eternal Dharma. It couldn't be Eternal if it had no Self. (nirvana sutra www.nirvanasutra.net...
[edit on 3-6-2010 by filosophia]