Obama Impeachment Charges

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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 



I see bribery, abuse of power, official misconduct, and breaking his oath to the Constitution . . . just to name a few impeachable offenses.



Give me the specific examples of all of those where Obama is personally doing those things.

Sources would be nice too...not a blog site or your opinion...but an actual source.


Chew on this:


What does it take to get a wavering senator to vote for health care reform?

Here’s a case study.

On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”

The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”

I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.


Source: The $100 Million Health Care Vote

Providing you with all ten offenses is rather redundant and is only meant to riddle the thread with tons of stuff so that the original message gets watered down and people begin debating specific posts and not the topic. This is a tactic you have used in the health care threads and illegal immigration threads and it's getting tiring.

The bottom line is:
It only takes one offense to warrant impeachment proceedings and unfortunately for you, bribery counts. Whether or not Bush should have been impeached is not the issue.

[edit on 3-6-2010 by lpowell0627]




posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 09:53 AM
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Wonderful thread!! I sent it to all my friends and a few fools that like obama as well. Can't wait to see there how they agree/disagree.

Great work and research compiled all together for us here. S&F



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 


I'm not here to give you history lessons on how crooked our government is, if you actually think Obama has done anything nearly as bad GWB though you need to sell me some of that stuff your using though. It's gotta be some good stuff!



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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You can't justify what Obama is doing as the current POTUS because of what Bush may or may not have done when he was in office. BUSH ISN'T THE POTUS ANYMORE!



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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This thread is a funny weak attempt to hoax a report that Obama will be impeached.

Duh

First Obama has to do something wrong before you can impeach him.

Duh

get it yet

Obama not breaking law = you can't impeach him

now are you more educated?

so far nothing will get Obama impeached

we can see he is doing a good job

we all know he is doing a good job



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Procession101
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 


I'm not here to give you history lessons on how crooked our government is,


Then why did you bring it up? That is a fallacy. I am asking you to provide evidence of your claim. You do not give evidence, making it a bald assertion.

Back up what you say, or don't say anything at all.

A fallacy on a fallacy . . . wow



if you actually think Obama has done anything nearly as bad GWB though you need to sell me some of that stuff your using though. It's gotta be some good stuff!


Fallacy again. This is not about GWB's, Abraham Lincoln's, FDR's, Thomas Jefferson's, or George Washington's crimes. This is about Obama's crimes. Please stick to the topic at hand. I would be glad to visit a thread you make for the others, though.


So are you going to bring facts to the table, or not?



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." --US Constitution. Article II, Sec. 4."


This administration has bribed potential Congressmen not to run for office by offering, or suggesting they would have jobs in the administration. There is a specific law forbidding this. Impeachment procedings need to be started immediately.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Paradigm2012
This thread is a funny weak attempt to hoax a report that Obama will be impeached.

Duh


That is neither here nor there. Please refute the points placed before you.



First Obama has to do something wrong before you can impeach him.

Duh


He has, and I have listed proof.


get it yet

Obama not breaking law = you can't impeach him


Get it yet? He broke the law, as I have shown.


now are you more educated?


Not really . . .


so far nothing will get Obama impeached


I agree with this because both parties are on the same side.


we can see he is doing a good job

we all know he is doing a good job



"We" as in the 26% that you are a part of?



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." --US Constitution. Article II, Sec. 4."


This administration has bribed potential Congressmen not to run for office by offering, or suggesting they would have jobs in the administration. There is a specific law forbidding this. Impeachment procedings need to be started immediately.


There has to be a reason to do it.
You cannot just make up charges like you are

and just because you lost the election is not a good reason

sorry but you lose

and you imploded



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
So, if I understand you correctly you don't like Obama?


Aw, give him a break, it's his first time as president!

Has he violated the Constitution as much as Bush did in first year of office?

I'd have to say it's a close race!

How fast can we destroy America? Courtesy of our 2-party system.

So do you really like Obama and are not being paid to write supporting comments?
You say our 2-party system is destroying America. It certainly is, but Obama is working for the 2-party system.
March 13, 2008, the Congress was told in a secret meeting that the United States would be ended as a country, to be merged, sans Constitution, into the North America Union. To oppose this destruction of our country and our way of life constitutes treason to the government?



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Paradigm2012
This thread is a funny weak attempt to hoax a report that Obama will be impeached.

Duh


That is neither here nor there. Please refute the points placed before you.



First Obama has to do something wrong before you can impeach him.

Duh


He has, and I have listed proof.


get it yet

Obama not breaking law = you can't impeach him


Get it yet? He broke the law, as I have shown.


now are you more educated?


Not really . . .


so far nothing will get Obama impeached


I agree with this because both parties are on the same side.


we can see he is doing a good job

we all know he is doing a good job



"We" as in the 26% that you are a part of?


So far you have made a weak case, and you have presented no evidence.

just quoting multiple times like you did helps my argument look even better

The facts support my point

and since you have no facts that is why you are losing



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:19 AM
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I do not know anyone at all in my state or region who thinks Obama is doing a bad job.

The facts tell us, meaning you and me that Obama has not lied or broke the law.

You and I agree that Obama is doing a good job



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Paradigm2012

There has to be a reason to do it.
You cannot just make up charges like you are


I have given reasons, and they are not made up. Enjoy!


and just because you lost the election is not a good reason

sorry but you lose

and you imploded


Fallacy: Red Herring. Please stay on topic


[edit on 6/3/2010 by Lemon.Fresh]



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Paradigm2012


So far you have made a weak case, and you have presented no evidence.


Really now? I have provided evidence, as opposed to you and the opposition supplying fallacies.

Care to refute my points, or not?


just quoting multiple times like you did helps my argument look even better


You have no argument, as you have not addressed any of the points, or provided evidence to back your assertions.



The facts support my point

and since you have no facts that is why you are losing



What point is that? And what facts have you shown that support that point?



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Procession101
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh
 


I'm not here to give you history lessons on how crooked our government is,


Then why did you bring it up? That is a fallacy. I am asking you to provide evidence of your claim. You do not give evidence, making it a bald assertion.

Back up what you say, or don't say anything at all.

A fallacy on a fallacy . . . wow



if you actually think Obama has done anything nearly as bad GWB though you need to sell me some of that stuff your using though. It's gotta be some good stuff!


Fallacy again. This is not about GWB's, Abraham Lincoln's, FDR's, Thomas Jefferson's, or George Washington's crimes. This is about Obama's crimes. Please stick to the topic at hand. I would be glad to visit a thread you make for the others, though.


So are you going to bring facts to the table, or not?


Alright so first you ask for proof about how corrupt our government is then in your next sentence you tell me to stick to the topic about Obama's "crimes, so which shall it be? *"Quote" provided above to avoid a "Fallacy"*



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Paradigm2012

There has to be a reason to do it.
You cannot just make up charges like you are


I have given reasons, and they are not made up. Enjoy!


and just because you lost the election is not a good reason

sorry but you lose

and you imploded


Fallacy: Red Herring. Please stay on topic


[edit on 6/3/2010 by Lemon.Fresh]


I am glad you were influenced by my post and you realized the faults in your argument.

My posts make a difference in your world.

I am glad I could help you understand things better.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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So the evidence that is presented is some guy saying so . I think Glen Beck said Obama was the antichrist..... it must be true. I mean c'mon.... he said it on a news program.

Every president takes a lot of flak but it seems the right is hellbent on a HUGE smear campaign accusing Obama and anyone on the left of whatever it can dream up. I am not totally for Obama or against him. I think it is all phony to an extent.

His alignment with ACORN is documented well , that is classic politics. Every other infringement deals with other government offices and mostly pure rhetoric or using freedom of speech as a means to slander the guy to death.

Just like the "socialism " cries of the public when government help was needed in the dust bowl in the 1930's these idiots are crying "socialist" now for a health bill that will help people . They want you to hate it cause insurance companies will lose money. Almost all independent inquiries state that the bill will actually create a 500$ billion surplus but everyone believe the smear campaign that the right spews everyday. Who has an agenda?

I sure believe he is a liar. I believe he loves the elitists. I also think he will not let the country die because of them , hence the healthcare reform and the investigation into BP .

The more anti- US posts I see mostly concern topics that most do not not cannot understand. We don't have all the evidence and we do not know the circumstances from the outside. We trust a doctor telling us that risky operations need to be made on loved ones do we not? The same concept should be applied to government to a certain extent. After all, we need it.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Paradigm2012
I do not know anyone at all in my state or region who thinks Obama is doing a bad job.


You know everyone in your state/region? Or at least a majority of the people?


The facts tell us, meaning you and me that Obama has not lied or broke the law.


Wrong and both counts (lying and breaking the law), as I have evidenced. Would you care to share some evidence to the contrary?


You and I agree that Obama is doing a good job


Wrong again, as I am not part of the 26%.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by Paradigm2012


So far you have made a weak case, and you have presented no evidence.


Really now? I have provided evidence, as opposed to you and the opposition supplying fallacies.

Care to refute my points, or not?


just quoting multiple times like you did helps my argument look even better


You have no argument, as you have not addressed any of the points, or provided evidence to back your assertions.



The facts support my point

and since you have no facts that is why you are losing



What point is that? And what facts have you shown that support that point?



Everyone agrees your case for impeachment is very very weak and you probably are hoaxing or making up your own facts, you even know that the reason your case for impeachment is flaud is because facts do not support it.

If you want anyone to pay attention to you then you should learn how to debate a little better, you are not making yourself look good.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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You are right . . . I am learning of fallacies I never knew existed. Thanks!


So are you going to contribute to the debate any time soon, or should I put you on ignore already?





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