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Originally posted by DangerDeath
Originally posted by habfan1968
/\ /\ Danger, those two above posts have nothing to do with the Rachel Corrie so why are you adding them in this thread?
The Corrie, if they decide to approach will meet the same fate as the freedom floatilla, will be boarded and checked and guided to the other port.
Sorry, but it has to do with the whole incident.
The same day flotilla was attacked and massacred by Israeli commandos, Turkish base was attacked by Kurdish rebels, and Turkey accused Mossad of organizing that attack. There is a lot more in play than you would like to present here.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Skellon
reply to post by stannis
I believe this is old news friend and that the Rachel Corrie is now expected to arrive tomorrow.
8 AM Tel Aviv time I believe. If so that's 8 hrs from now.
Originally posted by Skellon
reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread578409/pg20#pid8947399]post by TheSam
"they've raised the white flag, this after Israeli commandos descended upon the ship"
No, there's no doubt from what I saw that there was live fire before any Israeli soldier was on deck"
Why not raise the white flag when the "there was live fire before any Israeli soldier was on deck"?
Let's not forget this raid by the IDF was at 4am & still under the cover of darkness. I'd imagine most of the crew were surprised at this & there was a lot of panic and confusion which could easily lead to a delay to raise the flag.
"you could almost see the umm soldiers pointing their guns down through some sort of hole or compartment at the bottom side of the helicopter and firing almost indescriminately without even looking where they were firing"
Do you see a "some sort of hole or compartment at the bottom side of the helicopter"?
Neither you, nor I were on the boat to see if the helicopter did indeed have an underneath hatch to fire from so this question is moot. I don't think the Israeli govt will be in a rush to show us the blueprints for those choppers either
If we have trained soldiers "firing almost indescriminately without even looking where they were firing" from the blackhawk above, then why did they even bother attempting to board the ship, as obviously he is insinuating that they were killing with intent, so why did they not just drop a laser guided bomb on the ship therefore giving them the deniability that so many here accuse them of in "cover ups". They would have also not risked their own soldiers lives by doing this.
You may respond back by saying that they were not out to kill everyone, only specific targets as implied by the alleged 'kill list' shown.
Then I would have to ask why, according to this reporter were they "firing almost indiscriminatley"?
"what took place was umm during the period when they first spotted the Israeli ships at a distance and then when the Israelis came, uh the passengers uh took apart some of the railing bars on the side of the ships"
In the video below we see that they have already taken apart iron raillings in this short time period from the "ships"
In the video below we see the water being sprayed but we also see large chains being swung, a stack of dinner plates being dropped onto the soldiers and what appears to be a stun/smoke grenade thrown into the 'raider style' boat.
A closing short piece of video from youtube that Aljazeera has chosen to miss out a few times in its reporting of the incident.
Nobodyatlocalhost - @Burrrry6969
"That, even though it's plain to see from the facts that Israel acted appropriately in this situation, the world's opinion of what happened is unchanged. That is, popular opinion on the matter is based on antisemitism and hatred of Israel."
Hard to disagree with this.
[edit on 4-6-2010 by Skellon]
Originally posted by OverSword
reply to post by backwherewestarted
You're kind of a fool aren't you. The MSM is totaly pro Israel on this one in case you haven't noticed. The truth is that people died because of the way Israel handled the situation. If they had boarded after the ship crossed out of international waters, in daylight from boats instead of helicopters it is very likely that nobody would have been killed. And incase you hadn't noticed, none of the commandos were on that list of dead people. The picture of the weapons collected by Israeli forces consisted of kitchen knives and wrenches. Boarding a ship without permission in international waters is called piracy and is ilegal.