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Irish ship on collision course with Israeli navy near Gaza

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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:01 PM
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Hello been reading ats for a long time now but only joined this minute, the reason I joined is just to update everyone on what was reported earlier today on irish radios (im irish). The boat will reach Gaza early saturday morning it has been checked already for weapons and none were found I never heard who actually checked it obviously not Israel also if they are stopped by israel they will stand on the top deck with their hands in the air but the ship will continue on a path for Gaza and will not stop.




posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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Israel should do the same as it has done since the blockade has been in place. Even IF the Pope is aboard.

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself is on that ship. If they try to run the blockade they will be stopped. If they don't stop, they will be boarded. Period. If they resist they will be met with equal force.

Israel has every right to defend itself how it sees fit.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Maybe deadman he did bless the ship can you move your agenda with skellon somewhere else. My beer belly could use that machine you using though . But in all serious mate skellon wont respond here.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by BillRose
Israel should do the same as it has done since the blockade has been in place. Even IF the Pope is aboard.

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself is on that ship. If they try to run the blockade they will be stopped. If they don't stop, they will be boarded. Period. If they resist they will be met with equal force.


That's a bold statement. Didn't the Jews take care of that matter 2000 years ago? Not taking a poke at the Jews, just pointing at how ridiculous that statement is.


Israel has every right to defend itself how it sees fit.


Why?



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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But Bill you still missing the point. I can understand your fear of bad stuff entering Gaza, but why dont you trust the UN. They if allowed will search and escort and we have the compromise.

Defend your country by all means, though i think everyone but the Iraelis think enslaving gaza is wrong, you disagree ofc and thats your opinion



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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The UN monitors have watched as Hezbollah militia members have restocked their rocket supply in Lebanon.

If you want some true inspection, the UN needs to clean up it's act.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:14 PM
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Skellop....

You still have not answered my question. Not 1 war crime in 60 yrs ? Does Israel lie about killing people and the circumstances in which they die.

Be it 1 person, be it 9 onboard a ship, a thousand in a city or 6 million.

Do you support that ? Yes or No.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:14 PM
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Also im not sure if you would consider this off topic but I feel it gives a background to irish-israel relations at present. We were before this happened and still are considering expelling israel diplomats from our country for the forging of irish passports that were then used by a mossad hit squad. Dont know how to post links yet if you type irish passports into google news it will come up.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Check the last page please.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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Skellon as much as I may or maynot disagree with the personal agenda you and deadman have, tbh i dont the deadtruth wont but i would kindly ask for your restraint.

Thanks

ps - Im not a very good poster , meant thedeadtruth s
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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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I did. But you did not answer my question. You obviously answered someone elses. My was simple and direct.

Not 1 war crime in 60 years. Do you believe that ? Yes or No ?

If you are unsure of your conviction so can only answer with silence or trying to confuse the subject with other topics. That speaks volumes.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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Answer my damn question already...

What the hell is that thing you are standing on in the avatar the VT?>



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Gooseygander
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Skellon as much as I may or maynot disagree with the personal agenda you and deadman have, tbh i dont care about it (edit) last bit, can you please keep this thread clear of it. Deadman wont but i would kindly ask for your restraint.

Thanks

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I appreciate your polite manner in this request, however is this thread not posted in the Middle East Issues forum? (Discussion and analysis of tensions, conflicts, and conspiracies related to the middle eastern counties and cultures)

Considering that you joined ATS yesterday, could you please clarify for me why you wish for me to cease this debate with thedeadman?

I am open to your response and if it is justifiable that I am speaking out of context or way off topic then I shall oblige you.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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This is on topic, because Skellops position is that every single Arab, civilian or peace activist ever killed in the last 60 years, including those on-board the last ship, were killed legally.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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Ok seriously buddy.. tell me what that thing is... curiosity is killin me



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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Do mean what I am standing on ?

Do not want to go off topic. So will only say if I get permission from a mod.



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Thanks Skellon for your understanding, i am new and I can only imagine the hatred from BOTH sides spouted over the years here.

But this is a popular thread becasue it involves the irish, and a run on (in my opinion too skellon sorry) an illegal blockade.

This isnt about the right and wrongs of Israel, you exist and I dont want you to die.

But I want aid to get to Gaza, and so does my friends on the Irish ship.

The thread is why cannot that aid get to Gaza, that simple, if i misread the thrad then i apolgise and will leave the rest go through the same old routine.

I want to know what happens to the ship and am using this thread to find out. In that respect your both agenda are suited here, please (not taking sides) find another thread.

Brian



posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Thanks Skellon for your understanding, i am new and I can only imagine the hatred from BOTH sides spouted over the years here.

But this is a popular thread becasue it involves the irish, and a run on (in my opinion too skellon sorry) an illegal blockade.

This isnt about the right and wrongs of Israel, you exist and I dont want you to die.

But I want aid to get to Gaza, and so does my friends on the Irish ship.

The thread is why cannot that aid get to Gaza, that simple, if i misread the thrad then i apolgise and will leave the rest go through the same old routine.

I want to know what happens to the ship and am using this thread to find out. In that respect your both agenda are NOT suited here, please (not taking sides) find another thread.

Brian
added not, i am still a bad poster, nother bad post
pps - I do have to add, i dont agree with the regime, but you exist and noone has a right to deny you that.
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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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But so does palestine have a right to exist. There Ive said enough, i think ive been impartial and wont say anything.

I may get cross if you kill a few Irish, but as the MSM may say the nobel proze winner etc etc etc resisted

Bye

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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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Between 1994 and 1996, Israel built the Israeli Gaza Strip barrier. The separation barrier was first constructed to improve security in Israel. The barrier was largely torn down by Palestinians at the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Intifada in September 2000.[16] Between December 2000 and June 2001, the barrier fence between the Gaza Strip and Israel was reconstructed. A barrier on the Gaza Strip-Egypt border was constructed from 2004, completely encircling the Gaza Strip.[17] There are three main crossing points in the barrier: the northern Erez Crossing into Israel, the southern Rafah Crossing into Egypt, and the eastern Karni Crossing used only for cargo.[18] Israel continues to control most of Gaza Strip's land borders, as well as its territorial waters and airspace. Egypt controls Gaza Strip's southern border, under an agreement between it and Israel.[19]

Seems like the precedent has been set for some time as far as who controls the territorial waters so the blockade really is legal in so far as no one has challenged the legitimacy of Israel controlling the waters up to and including now.

As far as the Rachel Corrie making the trip with the purpose of docking anywhere other than the same place the UN docks their aide boats, that would be instigating the fight, IMHO.

As an aside, palestine receives $90 million a year in various aide packages from the US alone and the 15 tonnes of aide Israel clears every week or so, I can't see how the palestinians could be in desperate need of any aide over and above what they already receive.



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