reply to post by Good Intentions
Yeah, my humour gets missunderstood lots...
But I've heard so many world leaders saying "Israel must investigate"
Sorta reminds me of the 9/11 commission...
The I hate Israel crowd is truly irrational, page 3
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reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 07:14 PM by Bl4cK
reply to post by Matrix Rising
My sentiments exactly. The most of the Israel fingerpointers seem to build their opinions just by reading headlines. They are so stuck in their Anti-Israel stance and inaccessible to objective reasoning. Yes, Israel is not always right, but this is a straightforward, bigoted Israel-bashing.
Some people only want to read what correlates with their opinions. I gave up on them already.
It's Israel this, Israel that. As if Israel ist the biggest villain in the middle east.
Open your eyes, people! Be more critical and don't get fed every scapegoat.
My sentiments exactly. The most of the Israel fingerpointers seem to build their opinions just by reading headlines. They are so stuck in their Anti-Israel stance and inaccessible to objective reasoning. Yes, Israel is not always right, but this is a straightforward, bigoted Israel-bashing.
Some people only want to read what correlates with their opinions. I gave up on them already.
It's Israel this, Israel that. As if Israel ist the biggest villain in the middle east.
Open your eyes, people! Be more critical and don't get fed every scapegoat.
reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 07:17 PM by Good Intentions
reply to post by virgom129
Yeah I get what your saying, but that depends on which side you take on 9/11. If you think the government did it, its the same as having the government reinvestigate it. If you think terrorists did it, its the same as having the terrorists reinvestigate it. I would say Palestine should investigate this, but they obviously have no power against Isreal. There's not much to investigate either, all the information is there. It's up to the people themselves to look at the information logically. Thank god for once the majority are thinking for themselves.
Yeah I get what your saying, but that depends on which side you take on 9/11. If you think the government did it, its the same as having the government reinvestigate it. If you think terrorists did it, its the same as having the terrorists reinvestigate it. I would say Palestine should investigate this, but they obviously have no power against Isreal. There's not much to investigate either, all the information is there. It's up to the people themselves to look at the information logically. Thank god for once the majority are thinking for themselves.
reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 07:32 PM by Good Intentions
reply to post by Bl4cK
You need to look at yourself in the mirror. This isn't a anti-Isreali movement, and if YOU actually read the threads, and not the headlines, you would see that. Almost every person states that they are against the government, not the people.
And I would say Isreal is the biggest villian in the Middle East. Also, the other countries you might name, are our foes mostly because of our support for Isreal which has unhumanitarian policies. The U.S. supports Isreals every signle move, and takes its back in every single scenario. Hence why we have so many problems in the Middle East.
You might say because of terrorists, but then that would mean you do not understand why they are "terrorists".
You need to look at yourself in the mirror. This isn't a anti-Isreali movement, and if YOU actually read the threads, and not the headlines, you would see that. Almost every person states that they are against the government, not the people.
And I would say Isreal is the biggest villian in the Middle East. Also, the other countries you might name, are our foes mostly because of our support for Isreal which has unhumanitarian policies. The U.S. supports Isreals every signle move, and takes its back in every single scenario. Hence why we have so many problems in the Middle East.
You might say because of terrorists, but then that would mean you do not understand why they are "terrorists".
reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 08:12 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by Matrix Rising
I think if there is ever to be true accountability both sides must be dealt with accordingly, the funneling of agents, money and weapons to Palestine from all over the world has to stop. The funneling of weapons, technology, and funding of the State of Israel must also stop. We are incentivising war over there and we're letting everyone else in the world do it too. It's another money making scheme.
This NEVER had anything to do with religion, politics or policy. This has and always will be about money. And so long as we continue to FUND and ARM both sides there will never be an end to this. You're right, there is never blame placed where it actually belongs. Governments have been bought and sold for as long as we've used the various systems thereof, there is no reason to think the motiations for this eternal conflict have ever been anything but a product of the greed of a few men.
Satan does indeed have many names:
Some thinks it's the Jews and zionists, Muslims, communists, and socialists. Some think it's right or left wingers. Some think it's the schools, the corporations, men, women, the Military, the damned youth of today...The secret is, someone, somewhere is making money off of it.
[edit on 2-6-2010 by projectvxn]
I think if there is ever to be true accountability both sides must be dealt with accordingly, the funneling of agents, money and weapons to Palestine from all over the world has to stop. The funneling of weapons, technology, and funding of the State of Israel must also stop. We are incentivising war over there and we're letting everyone else in the world do it too. It's another money making scheme.
This NEVER had anything to do with religion, politics or policy. This has and always will be about money. And so long as we continue to FUND and ARM both sides there will never be an end to this. You're right, there is never blame placed where it actually belongs. Governments have been bought and sold for as long as we've used the various systems thereof, there is no reason to think the motiations for this eternal conflict have ever been anything but a product of the greed of a few men.
Satan does indeed have many names:
Some thinks it's the Jews and zionists, Muslims, communists, and socialists. Some think it's right or left wingers. Some think it's the schools, the corporations, men, women, the Military, the damned youth of today...The secret is, someone, somewhere is making money off of it.
[edit on 2-6-2010 by projectvxn]
reply posted on 3-6-2010 @ 09:01 AM by belial259
reply to post by Matrix Rising
I think that's a rather patronising statement and I don't really like being called irrational or any of the other ad hominem names you like to trot out in your defence.
Israel treats the international community like we're under some obligation to tolerate their nonsense or ever have been. Like we were somehow responsible for not doing enough for them and all their woes are somehow our fault.
But now they've gotten to the point where we see Mossad agents operating in friendly western countries, stealing friendly western passports. Not complying with international law or making an effort to maintain international good will. And in this latest incident killing citizen from friendly countries.
As my own government so aptly stated "These don't seem like the actions of a friend".
Personally I do think they seem like the actions of a friend. Who is co-dependant and has bipolar disorder and a persecution complex.
Your state exists only because we support you. And no other reason. We weren't ever obligated to do that. Aren't now, and never will be. It's time to accept Israel is neither indispensable or desirable in the eyes of many and when you bite the hands that feeds you, it isn't in your bests interests.
Become compliant or become history. Just like everyone else.
[edit on 3-6-2010 by belial259]
When it comes to Israel, there's this irrational and twisted hate for them.
I think that's a rather patronising statement and I don't really like being called irrational or any of the other ad hominem names you like to trot out in your defence.
Israel treats the international community like we're under some obligation to tolerate their nonsense or ever have been. Like we were somehow responsible for not doing enough for them and all their woes are somehow our fault.
But now they've gotten to the point where we see Mossad agents operating in friendly western countries, stealing friendly western passports. Not complying with international law or making an effort to maintain international good will. And in this latest incident killing citizen from friendly countries.
As my own government so aptly stated "These don't seem like the actions of a friend".
Personally I do think they seem like the actions of a friend. Who is co-dependant and has bipolar disorder and a persecution complex.
Your state exists only because we support you. And no other reason. We weren't ever obligated to do that. Aren't now, and never will be. It's time to accept Israel is neither indispensable or desirable in the eyes of many and when you bite the hands that feeds you, it isn't in your bests interests.
Become compliant or become history. Just like everyone else.
[edit on 3-6-2010 by belial259]
reply posted on 3-6-2010 @ 09:10 AM by Haydn_17
www.mfa.gov.il...
"Hamas' rocket attacks, which continued throughout the operation, constituted a double war crime. Not only were they aimed at about 15% of Israel's civilian population, they were cynically carried out from locations immediately adjacent to homes, schools, hospitals, relief agency warehouses, mosques (see video clip), public buildings - as well as from the office building that housed foreign media studios. These reprehensible acts were documented not only in Israeli aerial films, but by the international media."
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Cant you see what Hamas are doing? They want Israel to fire back so they hit hospitals, schools and homes, so the world can start crying for Gaza.
"Hamas' rocket attacks, which continued throughout the operation, constituted a double war crime. Not only were they aimed at about 15% of Israel's civilian population, they were cynically carried out from locations immediately adjacent to homes, schools, hospitals, relief agency warehouses, mosques (see video clip), public buildings - as well as from the office building that housed foreign media studios. These reprehensible acts were documented not only in Israeli aerial films, but by the international media."
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Cant you see what Hamas are doing? They want Israel to fire back so they hit hospitals, schools and homes, so the world can start crying for Gaza.
reply posted on 3-6-2010 @ 09:19 AM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Matrix Rising
Ya, I noticed it too...
in the last response I posted in one of the "I hate Israel, let's start a confrontation with them" thread I responded with the following.
.......
You know what I find extremely ironic?
Most of the people rooting for a fight/confrontation with Israel are the same people that in other threads preach about peace meanwhile singing "Kumbaya" and "we are the world"... But when it comes to Israel you people change your tune and demand more confrontations...
.......
Now even the Irish are seeking a confrontation with Israel, and I find it also ironic that the Irish support dictatorships like Cuba, since most of the UN "Socialists" also support Cuba, but when it comes to a nation that should be extremely careful because "aid" in the past has meant aid to HAMAS and other terrorist organizations who continue to attack Israel, yet the UN, the rest of the Socialists, and even nations like Ireland decide to back the Palestinian terrorists to no end, and want to start a confrontation with Israel so they can get their 15 minute fame and proclaim "see we are fighting a dictatorship" meanwhile they support real dictatorships....
Ya, I noticed it too...
in the last response I posted in one of the "I hate Israel, let's start a confrontation with them" thread I responded with the following.
.......
You know what I find extremely ironic?
Most of the people rooting for a fight/confrontation with Israel are the same people that in other threads preach about peace meanwhile singing "Kumbaya" and "we are the world"... But when it comes to Israel you people change your tune and demand more confrontations...
.......
Now even the Irish are seeking a confrontation with Israel, and I find it also ironic that the Irish support dictatorships like Cuba, since most of the UN "Socialists" also support Cuba, but when it comes to a nation that should be extremely careful because "aid" in the past has meant aid to HAMAS and other terrorist organizations who continue to attack Israel, yet the UN, the rest of the Socialists, and even nations like Ireland decide to back the Palestinian terrorists to no end, and want to start a confrontation with Israel so they can get their 15 minute fame and proclaim "see we are fighting a dictatorship" meanwhile they support real dictatorships....
reply posted on 3-6-2010 @ 09:25 AM by belial259
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
And don't you ever wonder for a second why all these countries are suddenly "backing" the Palestinians and being critical of Israel in some fashion? We can't all be wrong.
Can you even admit that some of the things your country has done, and does do are wrong without offering an excuse? I can. And I'm sorry.
Until you start saying the same. I think you need to re-evaluate your views.
And don't you ever wonder for a second why all these countries are suddenly "backing" the Palestinians and being critical of Israel in some fashion? We can't all be wrong.
Can you even admit that some of the things your country has done, and does do are wrong without offering an excuse? I can. And I'm sorry.
Until you start saying the same. I think you need to re-evaluate your views.
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