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Topic started on 2-6-2010 @ 08:25 AM by PurpleDog UK

Gasland


www.boreme.com
Hydraulic facturing? Oil and water do mix. It's happening all across America and now in Europe and Africa as well. We should be worrying. Directed by Josh Fox. Winner of Special Jury Prize - Best US Documentary Feature - Sundance 2010.
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reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 10:24 AM by cagliostro
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
So much for tap water, i am sticking with my bottle waters, by the way heres a interesting thought, what if the government decides to close all the tap waters? eh? what then?


The only options for you are river lakes, bottle waters.


Tap water in the US is regulated by the EPA, while bottled water is regulated by the FDA. EPA regulations for tap water are generally regarded to be more strict than the FDA's, so you'd actually be better off with tap. Obviously if you smell gas in your tap water, or can ignite it, you'll probably want to alert the EPA and your municipal water and power manager.

www.nrdc.org...
Even when bottled waters are covered by FDA's specific bottled water standards, those rules are weaker in many ways than EPA rules that apply to big city tap water. For instance, comparing those EPA regulations (for water systems which serve the majority of the U.S. population) with FDA's bottled water rules:

* City tap water can have no confirmed E. coli or fecal coliform bacteria (bacteria that are indications of possible contamination by fecal matter). FDA bottled water rules include no such prohibition (a certain amount of any type of coliform bacteria is allowed in bottled water).

* City tap water from surface water must be filtered and disinfected (or the water system must adopt well-defined protective measures for the source water it uses, such as control of potentially polluting activities that may affect the stream involved). In contrast, there are no federal filtration or disinfection requirements for bottled water -- the only source-water protection, filtration, or disinfection provisions for bottled water are completely delegated to state discretion, and many states have adopted no such meaningful programs.

* Bottled water plants must test for coliform bacteria just once a week; big-city tap water must be tested 100 or more times a month.

* Repeated high levels of bacteria (i.e., "heterotrophic-plate-count" bacteria) in tap water combined with a lack of disinfectant can trigger a violation for cities -- but not for water bottlers.

* Most cities using surface water have had to test for Cryptosporidium or Giardia, two common water pathogens that can cause diarrhea and other intestinal problems (or more serious problems in vulnerable people), yet bottled water companies don't have to do this.

* City tap water must meet standards for certain important toxic or cancer-causing chemicals such as phthalate (a chemical that can leach from plastic, including plastic bottles); some in the industry persuaded FDA to exempt bottled water from regulations regarding these chemicals.

* Any violation of tap-water standards is grounds for enforcement -- but bottled water in violation of standards can still be sold if it is labeled as "containing excessive chemicals" or "excessive bacteria" (unless FDA finds it "adulterated," a term not specifically defined).

* Cities generally must test at least once a quarter for many chemical contaminants. Water bottlers generally must test only annually.

* Cities must have their water tested by government-certified labs; such certified testing is not required for bottlers.

* Tap water test results and notices of violations must be reported to state or federal officials. There is no mandatory reporting for water bottlers.

* City water system operators must be certified and trained to ensure that they know how to safely treat and deliver water -- not so for bottlers.

* City water systems must issue annual "right-to-know" reports telling consumers what is in their water; as detailed in this report, bottlers successfully killed such a requirement for bottled water.



reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 10:33 AM by PurpleDog UK
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Cagliostro

Thankyou for your information, it was very detailed and I guess is in support of drinking water from taps and the water system...
However, the link at the top and here

www.boreme.com...

suggests that 'allowances' have been made or rules relaxed by the usual suspects which means that energy companies can bypass or avoid some of the regulation in place to protect OUR water..... check out the video trailer .... I shall watch this when it is released...

Cheers

PurpleDog UK


reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 08:21 PM by cagliostro
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Hmm that's interesting about special allowances. I too will have to watch this docu when it comes out.

I'm not sure if that wall-o-text I pasted was really arguing FOR tap water, just showing some of the differences of degree to which both bottled and tap water are regulated by their respective "watchdog" agencies.

One of the things that got me interested is that I, too, but bottled water, but I notice the kind I get it says on the label, in tiny print, "Bottled from a municipal water source." In other words, tap water sold as bottled water. Catch-22 anyone?

Sheesh maybe I'd be better off drilling my own well and planting my own veggies
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