This may be a little off topic, but doesn't this situation demonstrate the foolishness of disarming the law abiding public? A criminal has a gun and entire regions are being told to hide in their homes?

Originally posted by Argyll
I hope this psycho isn't heading there.

You don't have to worry about that, it's locked down, probably armed professionals guarding... In a way it would be ideal if that's where he was heading, it would be over and done with very quickly.

It seems like a passionate sort of thing, like some guy just flipped with no real plan. Maybe it something to do with organised crime but I think this guy has lost the plot for some reason, the news said he shot at anyone who came close? I don't know, very odd - just wait for the 'mind control' and MKultra comments

I lived in Millom for a few years, and Sky News said his latest car may have been dumped near there! Outside of Carlisle there is almost no police around as nearly all crime is dealing with addicts and drunks, or some domestic violence. A rare murder happened in Millom (domestic violence) when we were up there and they had to call in police from Carlisle to do all the work as the small towns, and even most of the bigger ones, don't know what to do with serious crime.

Some old guy with a shotgun running wild with free reign murdering at will.

All the regulations, bans and cameras in the world couldnt prevent this and now cops play catch-up trying to find him and stop him.

Safety is an illusion no matter how much you pretend to give up for it.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
This may be a little off topic, but doesn't this situation demonstrate the foolishness of disarming the law abiding public? A criminal has a gun and entire regions are being told to hide in their homes?

Would you like many armed men out on the streets? What if they don't have the latest news with a photo of the suspect and they come across someone openly armed? "Excuse me, are you the nutter?" Or is it best to shoot him first to make sure?

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If he is heading to Millom, he won't find many to shoot as it's Wednesday - everything shuts up at lunchtime today.

This is crazy.

A landlord on the line, Shaun King, on BBC News 24 now from Boot. He has taken people in from outside and locked up, 25 people in total. He said it is quite a wooded area. And the Police are using Helicopters and are flying very low.

[edit on 2-6-2010 by Peruvianmonk]

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus
What if they don't have the latest news with a photo of the suspect and they come across someone openly armed? "Excuse me, are you the nutter?" Or is it best to shoot him first to make sure?

The guy who just rolled up and pointed a shotgun at you, yeah that guy, he's the "bad" guy.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus
What if they don't have the latest news with a photo of the suspect and they come across someone openly armed? "Excuse me, are you the nutter?" Or is it best to shoot him first to make sure?

The guy who just rolled up and pointed a shotgun at you, yeah that guy, he's the "bad" guy.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist.

If he's already pointing the gun at you, I seriously doubt you'll have a chance to defend yourself whatever you're carrying, IMO.

The original shooting in Whitehaven was followed up with shootings in Egremont and Seascale.

A map of the area.

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus
If he's already pointing the gun at you, I seriously doubt you'll have a chance to defend yourself whatever you're carrying, IMO.

That may very well be the case but that is a far cry from the mythical Wild West imagery of random people shooting each other across streets you were pushing.

More air support coming in from Lancashire - Sky News

A better map of the area.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus
If he's already pointing the gun at you, I seriously doubt you'll have a chance to defend yourself whatever you're carrying, IMO.

That may very well be the case but that is a far cry from the mythical Wild West imagery of random people shooting each other across streets you were pushing.

That's fair enough

Sky News - Carlisle local newspaper says "at least ten fatalities"

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
A better map of the area.

Boot is between Ravenglass and Ulpha.