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5-Year-Old Suspended Before Graduation Boy Suspended For 'Thinking' About Knife

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posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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www.kpho.com...


A kindergartner was suspended for "intent" -- finding a knife and thinking about taking it to school, even though he decided not to.

The kindergartner briefly put the knife in his backpack, but thought better of it and put it down.

"It was a bad idea, bringing the knife. It could hurt somebody," said Josh.

The small knife remained in the park, well off of school grounds.

But when the other boys started talking about it at Harmon Elementary, Josh was called into the principal's office, and ultimately suspended. He was sent home on Thursday.


Wow, talk about a "zero tolerance" policy. Well, if the schools can suspend children for thinking about doing something, what is the next step from there? And what does this teach children?

Poor kid.

After the news investigated, the suspension was reversed; however, the principal refused to apologize. That means the principal felt he made the right decision but caved due to pressure.




posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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Thought-crime... It is ruining our younglings.

It is good that they caught this one before he started thinking about worse things; like sporks.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 01:33 AM
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What will be worse when this attitude is eventually combined with the physica ability to read people's minds using tech.... Sadly I fear our techonological advancements are bringing us closer to that stage all the time each day



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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they have a graduation ceremony for kindergarteners now?

but seriously, this is just stupid. I remember I brought Megatron to school in the mid-80's. he looked like a gun when transformed. I was playing with it, and the principal calmly told me why I couldnt bring it to school and let me put it in my locker. these days I'd be expelled and charged with a crime.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Wow... I am so glad I grew up in a much more relaxed era. I remember walking around in school with a toy rifle in the 80's as part of my costume for the revolutionary war celebration. Now days I see cops walking the same halls I once walked looking menacingly at the 4th- 5th graders.. Back then we had daily fights and the most we got was a couple swats from a paddle. I dread to ever have a child and send them to these ridiculous school systems these days.

I really don't see what the principle thought he taught the kid. The kid made the right choice and still got in trouble.


[edit on 2-6-2010 by Startruth144]



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:32 AM
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Little kids are very honest for the most part, unless some damn adult screws them up.

This is ridiculous!

Ya wanna know something that is really cool, though? My grandson can actually draw a picture of a gun in 2nd grade, and nobody gets upset.

Thank goodness I live where I do.

Meanwhile, Totalstranger, yes, they have graduation for Kindergarteners. lol. Also for 5th graders, and 8th graders, or 9th graders, depending upon the school districts. Unfortunately, I guess, there are more kindergartners graduating than seniors from high school.

My grandson is proud I served my country and went to war for our country. He drew a picture of what he imagined I looked like, pointing a gun at a monster. lol No harm

He's innocent. He knows not what all this crap is about. He just thinks I am a hero because I went to war with enemies and came back alive.

Oh, how awful!

When he's older I will tell him my true opinion about what exactly I did and for what. But that's for later.

Oh, Jimmy saw a knife and thought about taking it, but he didn't. Let's tell the teacher!

It should be, Jimmy found a knife, thought about taking it, and then decided it wasn't a good idea. Congratulations to Jimmy!

But, no.

When I was a kid, most of us boys carried a pocket knife. To whittle with. And the yo-yo's too. If you were careful, you coud trim the yo-yo and make it dance better. lol Or trim a top and make it spin faster. Yeah, I'm rather old, I suppose.

Nobody stabbed anyone else. Problems? Maybe go out on the playground and toss a few fists, and then become better friends.

Jeeze, man, what has become of us?

Gee, I thought about picking up this cool knife, but realized I would become a criminal, so I put it down. Now, I'm a criminal for doing what is considered "right". Oh, but it's like presents. It's the thought that counts. If it's the PC thought.

Help, Mr. Wizard! I don't want to live in the political correct world anymore!








posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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Every time I read something like this, I think of 1984. It's like they're desensitizing the kids to that sort of thing, to make them more docile.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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If that were my son. I would of congratulated him for not taking it to school.

All little boys are curious and the fact he left it behind shows everything about his little character.

School principles these days are not fit to manage. They are slightly peculiar and something about fully grown men in the line of teaching little children gives me an uneasy feeling. get a manly job...without the need to interact with kids.

I would imagine that if that was my child...that principle, could of found his way into intensive care, somehow eating through a straw for at least 3 months. But that is what I imagine. Again not a manly job, I start wondering if he is a religious type....Ah then the pieces would definitely start falling into place.

My message to the principle....grow up....and have some common sense. Maybe we need to start looking at those who interact with our children a little more closely. Fully grown men, with little children, suspending them for doing the correct thing, not apologizing for being a complete door knob! NOT great qualities in a man.

*no offense to anyone who takes offense but it is hard not to offend those who easily take offense. If you take offense then I sort of don't care that it offends as free speech will always offend those who are offensive themselves.

[edit on 2-6-2010 by C11H17N2NaO2S]



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Thought-crime... It is ruining our younglings.

It is good that they caught this one before he started thinking about worse things; like sporks.


It's funny you say that.

I was stabbed by a friend in 3rd grade with a spork. It left four little indents on my hand and one of them even bled a little. It was very traumatic. Well not really, he gave me some of his fruitsnacks and we went back to eating. But I got lucky, I could have ended up with a bandaid.

Of course now that kid would not only have been suspended but the cops would have been called, he would have probably been expelled and served time in juvy with probation till he was 21.

Now that I think about it he owes me a lot more than some fruitsnacks.


[edit on 2-6-2010 by Mikey Sly]



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by C11H17N2NaO2S
If that were my son. I would of congratulated him for not taking it to school.



C1, you and I are very, very different.

If that were my son, I would have beat him with a switch for going to public skewl.

I imagine there are a great many of curious and powerful souls lurking around at ATS- even a few with testicles to post on occasion. Further, I imagine that more than most understand the very nature of the Matrix and would feel grieved to have to send their own progeny off to a social indoctrination center that will scrub and wash the little mind with all kinds of pro socialism/big govt/police state/silent, obedient consent hogwash spewing from the edu system same as the Gulf oil spill.

If that were my son, I would feel terrible that I failed him and sent him off to strangers to be indoctrinated and socialized into a system I really don't agree with.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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People taking responsibility for their children's education and being involved in their lives, instead of just carting them off to public institutions and never talking to them again? That's crazy!



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:35 AM
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Amusingly I have literally just finished telling another forum contributor, that they shouldn't go around stating that the "US has higher standards" and "it would never happen here".... and bingo, here we have a prime example of how low we are sinking as a race. Not to mention how much we have allowed our ability to think to diminish!

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:41 AM
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I wish there was a way to have teachers and educators investigated and discover who and how these people are being trained, and then go after the bigger fish.. To find out why their ideals are so out of whack with common sense approaches to normal things like this.
It might also help to get this principal's email address and home address and send some "correction his direction..



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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Not surprised one bit.

I found out in 1992 that they used electronic mind control in schools in uk. I did nothing wrong, but they absolutely destroyed my life for no reason.

Everyone thinks bad things. Amazing that the criminals in gov and police are killing for there friends, while they are the trash.

My life has proven minority report techs do not work, there is no such thing as precrime.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 03:58 AM
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I remember I brought Megatron to school in the mid-80's. he looked like a gun when transformed. I was playing with it, and the principal calmly told me why I couldnt bring it to school and let me put it in my locker.


I once brought a wakazashi with a live blade and used it in a presentation for a highschool history class, including a demonstration of the proper technique for performing ritual suicide.

No one stoped me, nothing was said, and as I recall I received a good grade.

After class the sword went in my backpack, I carried it with me the rest of the day and went home.

*shrug*



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:11 AM
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When I was in school, the big offence was chewing gum. Most boys had a pocket knife and no one worried. When I was in high school, just about every pickup had an easyrider rifle rack in the rear window with a loaded 30-06. No one got shot or stabbed and if you had a beef with one of the other boys you had a fist fest to settle it and walked away friends: I guess I'm dating myslef abit but suspending a kindergartener for doing the right thing is a new low.

Thank God my kids are all grown but its their kids that now have to put up with bull. I wouldn't send my dog to a public school.

[edit on 6/2/2010 by pstrron]



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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If my child done that, I would have certainly told him that in the end he done the right thing, but I tell you what, the school would have my full support in the action they chose take and I would have kept him in his room for a whole week, because even though he chose against it, he still took the knife out. Kids need to be taught about consequences to prevent them from making the wrong choices.

I fear the child in question in this case wouldnt learn anything if no action had been taken.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by andy1033
Not surprised one bit.

I found out in 1992 that they used electronic mind control in schools in uk. I did nothing wrong, but they absolutely destroyed my life for no reason.

Everyone thinks bad things. Amazing that the criminals in gov and police are killing for there friends, while they are the trash.

My life has proven minority report techs do not work, there is no such thing as precrime.


Can you elaborate on the mind control thing ANdy please? I was 11/12 back then, I`d like to know more. THanks



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by Startruth144
Wow... I am so glad I grew up in a much more relaxed era. I remember walking around in school with a toy rifle in the 80's as part of my costume for the revolutionary war celebration.


Heh me too! - A lot of the dad's at our school were in the forces so that was pretty normal, I remember one time at juniour I was in a camo suit that had been made up for me with a plastic M-16 look a like thing and one of the other kids had a much better made out fit and a real ass deactivated rifle!!! (his dad stayed right next to him at all times) - if I remember right it was an AK!


I looked at my costume and sulked



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:56 AM
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I think they use it on most people, but if you do something they may consider strange you will get targeted. It was just something i stumbled on. Its hard to explain other than in my own life and circumstances. I will not go into personal experiences but i did nothing wrong, and they just wanted to destroy me.

By the way i never had anything to do with weapons, or what ever at school.

The school i was at just wanted to destroy me on purpose. All this talk about how they want to stop people being destroyed is bull, the school destroyed me on purpose, and the people i went to school with, with no concern for another.

I never did anything wrong, or was violent, as i have been passive all my life. They just made it up, and went after my life. I was then never allowed to have a life as an adult.

The police and school did this to me on purpose and i had to pay the rest of my life as a it carried on into my adult life. But when you hear how the police say they do this sort of thing to stop people radicalizing or something, they did this to me on purpose to just destroy me. So the police are out there targeting people just to destroy them, but fortunately i never did anything wrong, and it just shows them as absolute murderers in effect, my life is and was absolutely ruined.



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