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A standing ovation for this one. We have an excellent field of debaters this time! It is truly a shame that one must stop here, as both did an excellent job. Although my vote is with BlackJackal, this takes nothing away from the stellar performance by ktpr. I had to read it twice and then it came down to a matter of clarity and flow. Bravo!!
WOW What can I say that was a great debate. One of the best I've read. Both guys made solid arguments. I give my vote to BlackJackal since I believe he did a better job getting his point across. Great debate by both participants.
WOW. They should both win. ktprktpr summed it up most powerfully though.
Holy cow....this debate, by far, ranks as one of the best I have had the pleasure to read and judge. Both showed great pose and skill as debators and should be congratulated. If ever there was a time I wished that there was an allowed decision of 'tie', this debate would certainly fall into that category. Unfortunately, only one can be proclaimed as winner. As such, ktprktpr recieved my vote. I do want to again congratulate both debators for an awesome debate, one of the truly best I have had the pleasure to witness!
Is there a better word for impressed?
The debate, was exactly what was needed to breath new life into the forum. Despite the topic, both ktprktpr and BlackJackal
presented their arguements in a near poetic fashion, as far as debates go.
My vote goes to BlackJackal.
When I accepted the duty of judging the debates, I didn't know it would be so hard. If I could, I would let both of you go to the next round. You both made a great case for your side of the argument. All posts were well researched, although I think sometimes the amount of links was a bit too high. A bit more selection there would have been better.
Ktprktpr did well by stating that winning is something that happens now, but BlackJackal responded well by saying that if your actions will cause you to lose in the end, you can hardly be considered winning.
In the end, I have decided to vote for ktprktpr, but I'll hope you'll see again in the next tournament, BlackJackal. You both truly deserve to be in the next round, but only one can win.
damn, that was by far the best debate so far. as ktpr said, "the dance was beautiful." and that is who i shall cast my vote for.
both debators did an amazing job, to say the least. both argued their points incredibly well and knew exactly what they were talking about. great job, all around on this one.
Very well done guys, this was a tough one and it was very hard to not let personal feelings get in the way of judging this but fortunately I got past this.
The level of quality shown in this debate is the kind that should be strived for in every one that takes place, thanks alot.
winning is a state of successful being that has no reference to eventual outcomes or implications, the assertion that America is winning must be divorced from the future.
A couple things happened with that absolute statement & fact: A good debate was started, but also lost by the Pro argument in putting it out there. It polarized focus on present tense & the Con's argument was made, with a coup d'grace finish.