Obama Regime Blocks Condemnation of Israeli Crimes at UNSC Meeting

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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That whole megaphone thing....he has gone on record in this thread as saying that israel is wrong as well. your name calling is improper, according to site rules, and only makes your argument weaker.




posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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are you guys honestly that dumb? they are trying to avoid a full scale war.
If Israeli are attacked, chances are other counteries will follow (north korea, china maybe, iran) you cant just look at one part of the picture , you have to look at the whole thing.

If they just attack it would litterly spawn world war three, and im hoping nobody wants that



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Do you live in America? What of American atrocities? What about the atrocities every nation in existence today or yesterday has done something horrific; where is this malignant venom for those states?

The Jews are special; not because they control the world or anything like that. Jews are special because they are held over the coals because they are tribal. They stick to themselves. They keep their traditions. Outsiders are often met with a cool welcome to the inner-trappings of their culture. Do I agree with the way Israel was formed? Not at all. Do I agree with their treatment of Palestine? Nope. Let me clue you in to something; I also don't agree with hate. Yup, I'll say it again; hate. Anti-Jewish and Anti-Muslim people troll this forum picking ideological e-Penis measuring contests on a daily basis for the simple pleasure of speaking the vomit in their minds in to being.

It's much more simple to sit in front of your computer and point fingers without actually trying to figure out what happened on the flotilla. You play at an impartial quest for enlightenment, but you and by you I mean all of you paranoid -Snip- who obsess over the Middle East, only heed information from outlets that you agree with.

-Snip- Ah, and before I forget, Dock, I have a book to sell you. I got it from a friend of a friend of a friend, and I swear I know it's not fake.



Mod Edit - Civility And Decorum Are Required on AboveTopSecret.com



[edit on Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:45:24 -0500 by MemoryShock]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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I don't know who you're referring to

but let's get one thing straight right now

You can grandstand to prove your loyalty to whomever in private

But don't get carried away and imagine you're any sort of authority in MY life

One member, one vote

My opinions are as valid as are yours

So don't try to play to the gallery at my expense again

unless you like the public title of hypocrite



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Didn't you hear the whole story? Israel l had a blockade to inspect all ships that were sending aid and things to Hamas. All they asked was to inspect the ships. They have been hit by over 6500 rockets in the past few years from the Palestinians. The people in the boats said they would not comply with Israel's request, so Israel boarded the boats and were attacked! Israel is a nation and has a right to defend themselves.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:33 PM
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Registered: June 1, 2010

Wow really? This is your first post? Not even TRYING to hide your propaganda machine anymore are you?

I have no reason to refute anything you typed because it will fall on deaf ears. The atrocities of israel are of no comparison to those rockets.

[edit on 1-6-2010 by janon]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:33 PM
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I tried looking un.org to verify the facts but the server is not responding...

Weird coincidence? Maybe, the information needs some validation, but history tells us it would be business as usual. you can read : www.krysstal.com... .



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Spare me

You may not like hearing the truth. That's fine. Many people don't

But the antidote to truth is not lies

Every word I wrote in my post is true and backed by innumberable sources freely available

There are photos of israelis celebrating outside the Turkish embassy just hours after israelis had slaughtered Turks from the flotilla

There are photos of israelis on the heights, watching the carnage wreaked by israeli's Cast Lead. And those israelis had picnic baskets. They were jostling to get to the front of the pack for a better view. They used binoculars. Ghouls. And they were laughing and pointing at death in progress. Those photos went around the world

There are photos and news reports galore about israel's latest bloodthirsty attack on an unarmed flotilla. The numbers of dead remain unconfirmed but there WERE deaths. Killings. And NO israeli died. The world condemns israel. There can be NO excuse for what they did or are doing to the Palestinians

Are you claiming not to have seen the countless photos of Palestinian children who'd been burned alive ? Because you must be one of the very few who didn't see them or the other sadistic tortures and killings inflicted on the people of Gaza by israel

You can't dispute what I wrote. And I didn't post a hundredth of isreal's crimes in just 60 years

Don't give me excuses. We're all sick of hearing them. Time for excuses was over a long time ago

And don't presume to lecture me about jews because I will lecture you right back and from the sound of it, you won't be able to muster a response apart from more excuses



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by GrayMuli
reply to post by groingrinder
 


Didn't you hear the whole story? Israel l had a blockade to inspect all ships that were sending aid and things to Hamas. All they asked was to inspect the ships. They have been hit by over 6500 rockets in the past few years from the Palestinians. The people in the boats said they would not comply with Israel's request, so Israel boarded the boats and were attacked! Israel is a nation and has a right to defend themselves.




.......said the Megaphone



2nd line



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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So pictures on the internet, and internet information sources, coupled with a handful of factual events equate condemnation of an entire country full of people to you? It's funny; the most closed-minded people I have ever encountered are inhabitants of a board where I come to look at pictures of cryptid creatures and U.F.O.'s. It truly boggles the mind. Enjoy your life full of poison and paranoia; I'm sure your family, friends, and even yourself will surely be much better off for it.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by GrayMuli
reply to post by groingrinder
 


Didn't you hear the whole story? Israel l had a blockade to inspect all ships that were sending aid and things to Hamas. All they asked was to inspect the ships. They have been hit by over 6500 rockets in the past few years from the Palestinians. The people in the boats said they would not comply with Israel's request, so Israel boarded the boats and were attacked! Israel is a nation and has a right to defend themselves.


Yes I've been reading this allot the last 2 days. The same talking points by the apologists of Israel.

The flotillas were under ZERO obligation to stop and allow Israel to board their ships while in International Waters. Had they crossed into Israeli waters, different story. But you know the IDF.. always gung-ho to kill innocents.

As far as "Sending things to Hamas" goes... I would like Israel or anyone else to PROVE that the aid items were going to Hamas. Or that any of it was weapons. And i'm not talking about sling shots and metal pipes. But you know as well as I do that we will never know. Because Israel is enforcing a media black out. And they will conveniently release "their truth" and we're all supposed to take it at face value.

Poor poor Israel. How they must fight and defend themselves from those pipe wielding thugs.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Dock9
The OP was correct:


The United States has blocked demands at the UN security council for an international inquiry into Israel's assault on the Turkish ship carrying aid to Gaza that left nine pro-Palestinian activists dead.

A compromise statement instead calls for an impartial investigation which Washington indicated could be carried out by Israel.



www.guardian.co.uk...

See full article at link


Hrm.

Judge: Did you do a bad thing?
Suspect: No sir, I didn't!
Judge: Case closed, next!



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Yitro
reply to post by TheOracle
 


Israel was within it's rights per international law.

According to the San Remo Manual that governs international humanitarian law, it is permissible under rule 67(a) to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they ... intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or ...intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.”

San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea 1994

Prepared by International Lawyers and Naval Experts. Convened by the International Institute of Humanitarian Law. Adopted in June 1994.

www.icrc.org...


And even according to Oslo.

Gaza-Jerico of 1994, Agreement annex 1, Sec 1.b paragraph 4

As part of Israel's responsibilities for safety and security within the three Maritime Activity Zones, Israel Navy vessels may sail throughout these zones, as necessary and without limitations, and may take any measures necessary against vessels ...suspected of being used for terrorist activities or for smuggling arms, ammunition, drugs, goods, or for any other illegal activity. The Palestinian Police will be notified of such actions, and the ensuing procedures will be coordinated through the Maritime Coordination and Cooperation Center.

www.mfa.gov.il...

So, there you have it. One by international law, the other per Israel and PA agreement. Israel was and is within it's right.


How long is ATS going to let this BOT keep posting this same paragraph over and over on thread after thread? What is this, five threads now?



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:01 PM
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Well I for one am greatful there will be no war.
Nobody was hurt and the Palestinians will get everything they want and need thanks to the Israelis. No laws broken and it's a new sunny day.
OOOh Law and Order is on.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
 


I don't know who you're referring to

but let's get one thing straight right now

You can grandstand to prove your loyalty to whomever in private

But don't get carried away and imagine you're any sort of authority in MY life

One member, one vote

My opinions are as valid as are yours

So don't try to play to the gallery at my expense again

unless you like the public title of hypocrite


If polite discourse is beyond your ability, then please do carry on. The "gallery" you speak of will draw their own conclusions.


I have no loyalties to anyone living outside my home that are not paid for by my employer, or the blood of my ancestors.

And i rendered no opinion to match yours. Only facts.

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Those of you who believe that Israel somehow acted incorrectly, have you actually seen the videos of the raid. Here check it out, you can clearly see the soldiers being attacked with pipes and other weapons as they borded the ship. What were they supposed to do, let they fellow soldiers get mamed or killed? What would you do if you were doing your job and a group of people started to beat the crap out of you?



If the youtube vid doesn't embed, go to this link: YouTube Video

[edit on 1-6-2010 by finemanm]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by finemanm
Those of you who believe that Israel somehow acted incorrectly, have you actually seen the videos of the raid. Here check it out, you can clearly see the soldiers being attacked with pipes and other weapons as they borded the ship. What were they supposed to do, let they fellow soldiers get mamed or killed? What would you do if you were doing your job and a group of people started to beat the crap out of you?



If the youtube vid doesn't embed, go to this link: YouTube Video

[edit on 1-6-2010 by finemanm]



If your "job" is to commit international piracy then you deserve whatever your victims use to defend themselves. Your logic, like most of the Khazars you defend, is backward and abnormal. You can't seem to grasp the core issue here: committing piracy and brute forced intrusion.


[edit on 1-6-2010 by TSawyer]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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i like how theres no way any of you/us really can know for sure waht happened on those boats.
but hey, why pass up a perfectly good opportunity to bash the jews.
amirite?
or is it the zionists?
or isreal? i cant really even keep track any more.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by finemanm
Those of you who believe that Israel somehow acted incorrectly, have you actually seen the videos of the raid. Here check it out, you can clearly see the soldiers being attacked with pipes and other weapons as they borded the ship. What were they supposed to do, let they fellow soldiers get mamed or killed? What would you do if you were doing your job and a group of people started to beat the crap out of you?



If the youtube vid doesn't embed, go to this link: YouTube Video

[edit on 1-6-2010 by finemanm]


And am I supposed to be magically swayed? Fully armed specially trained IDF soldiers with body armor and automatic weapons were ran over by people with pipes? Give me a break.

Second.. and this has been stated a million times already. They had EVERY right to defend themselves. Especially when those "heroic" IDF soldiers were killing people!!! You break into my house and I'm gunning you down. Its the same thing. So stop with the "poor IDF soldiers" pitty party.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by TheOracle
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I think the US probably gave the green light and both didn't expect the outcome. I think the Israeli want to escort the flotilla by force to port in Israel, something may have gone wrong.
If they had issued an apology the world wouldn't be so angry right now.


I think it's the little dog controlling the big one. The little dog managed to steal and control all of the big dog's assets so he has no choice but be nice or starve.


Your exactly right, the little dog is controlling the big one via blackmail and more blackmail. They know that if it wasn't for the US, they wouldn't be existing as a country and it would be given back to the palestinians. The horrible thing is that the US is going to take the brunt of the punishment from allowing them to do what they want when they want and to whom they want. What blackmail do that country have on our polilticians, well if you look at the type of politicians we have it doesn't take alot of work to get something on each and everyone of them.





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