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When China rules the world

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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i also dont see how the oil spill has anything to do with china over taking the US in military and economy. its also not the largest oil spill in history, the gulf oil spill after the iraq war was, and we are still no where near that size of a disaster. to be realistic with the warm gulf temperatures and constant sun light, most that oil will evaporate regarless of the volume of the spill. and still about the same amount of oil will be recovered. you are doing your part to clean the oil spill by driving your car




posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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What I was coming across with the oil spill is how our government reacted. Lately the U.S government has become crooked. There's no chance of any of our officials in D.C fixing the country.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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ops, over post. and where do you get the idea that i think that the US is perfect? did i say taht either? your one that likes to jump to conclusions without anyone telling you any of the facts it seems. you got a whole little idea in your head of the type of person i am and its all made to be the type of person you want me to be. same thing with your views on china and the US. China will be lucky to hold on for the ride for the next 30 years, they are just being lifted up by a spill over effect from out booming economy. gdp is growing yes, but its all consumption of american brands and products, so its OUR growth, our shareholders growth. they arent at the wheel they are just coming along for the ride, and they have a long history of reverting back inward on their selves, the fractures are already starting to show



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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Well then I apologize to you. Yes! America is gaining much from China and China's economy is in a boom. But the China is consistently advancing and improving.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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If the US cared nothing for iraq or its "people", then why the hell is the US still there trying to police the country, you cannot simply strip resources from a region without being engaged with the host country. Im not saying that we like them, but we need them to be there none the less and therefore care enough to try restore order (emphasis on the try). You cannot say that the US does not care about iraq or else we would not be there.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:13 AM
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oh your talking about the obamanation. well that can only last so much longer, it looks like people are waking up real quick to what is going on in DC. But still i dont think that is relivant to our long term existence as a dominant power in the world. most empires from before have had major set backs, and even at times when it looked like all was lost they still came back and where more powerful then before. examples being the british empire after the loss of the USA, Russia under czar nicoli the second in WW1 and rome before the fall of the senate. we as a nation are a late teen and just starting our coming to age. pax americana is going to be a long lasting and generally benificial thing. some eggs will get cracked to make that omlet however



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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Not just the democrats. Republicans as well. Obamanation is the biggest scam is history. President like so many others in politics was lobbied into the White House. You seem to be a history buff as well?



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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yeah but the US is continually advancing and improving. look at the technology that forces its way into every household in the US rich or poor. and even though i disagree with our leadership as of this moment i do admit that they all adapt and change, and continually catch an edge on shifting realities, as do all nations. i dont doubt that china will be a great power indefinitly, but to out pace us as hedgemon and over take those responsibilities, i doubt they will do it. no one wants to challenge our navy or pay the financial consiquences of trying, its pointless, but if china took charge of the seas and made them exclusive then they will invite challenges to their hegmony constantly and quickly



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:18 AM
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Of course a lot of them care for the Iraqis!



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:21 AM
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You're right. If you want to destroy China. Just bring socialism back to the country. If Mao was alive he would be shocked to see capitalism was the main economic policy of China. I don't worship Mao. But find him as a revolutionary interesting.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:23 AM
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i agree, republicans as well, its just not vogue anymore to bash them. i have that 'Democrats are villians, but we dont have to say that about republicans cause everyone already knows. there are alot of things that are changing in our nation currently though on the political area, i personally have moved away from the democrats and into the liberatarian camp. lets face it sometimes less is more, and liberatiarian is the bud light of anarchy. yeah ive studied history, im actually and international relations major, but history is a part of it. i love getting into the political debates, so if it gets hot in the kitchen dont take it personal. about the iraq statement, i just dont think we should be involved at this stage. but my belief in non involvement is total, from the war, to the police action, to the drilling of oil there to the concern for its people. im one of the pull the plug people, we got bigger fish to fry in this world



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:26 AM
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China certainly has the most potential to be the next Superpower.. on the onset of 1939 I beleive (and I am sure I'll be corrected) that the US was the 17th largest military power in the world and yet a few years and 1 conflict later was pretty much the big boy on the block..

Some say China is too isolated, but isolation was the US redeeming factor in becoming said Superpower.. Nuclear material and specialists from Europe went to the US to work on creating the game changing Nuclear devices we know today.. bullding ships and other weapons in relative peace..

I'm not saying China will be the next Superpower.. but in all honestly it has the capability.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:27 AM
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Even the smallest person can change the face of history. If you believe these terror groups exist. Which many do! I believe we should have better handling on this. America has come along way and many enemy's are different. Libertarian? I have a book on Libertarian Anarchism. I love politics. My political moods go from here to there fast.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by dean007
china will never rule the world they cant even make a dvd player thats works for 6 months

china ruling will absolutely never happen not even a remote chance

and there smart enough to not try


I really don't take stock from people who can't spell properly but anyhow, this is short-sighted and reeks of wishful thinking. You do realize that superior Japan went through a similar phase just after WWII, yes? Their products were a laughting stock of the world as they tend to break immediately.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:55 PM
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For one thing, the Chinese know that they are not free. Americans think they still are.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:11 PM
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China may very well be the supreme power in our lifetime,...I hope not.

However, I must admit... the USA seems to be going down the road of the Roman Empire, the British Empire... resting on it's laurels, over extended, and involved in too many non-beneficial conflicts at the edges of the realm.

What happens in the next 2 year political cycle in the US will lock in place the course for the USA.

On the otherhand, turn the map upside down and look at things from China's perspective.

They have the US military massed in west Asia..Iraq, and Afghanistan( on the Chinese border)... more troops massed in S.Korea, and Japan. An unstable ally in N.Korea that could pull it into conflict with its largest trading partner... an economy built on exports in a world were markets are drying up... a rising middle class that expects more and more...and china has to provide or the natives get restless. Plus, because they manipulate their currency, they face a potential bubble and severe downturn economically. Oh, and India is still in dispute over border claims and has a massive army massed not along the Pakistan border, but with China.

Trust me, they ain't sleeping any better than our own El Presidente' Obama.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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I think it'll take time for China to cement itself as a true super power. It's a real possibility but a lot can happen in the meantime.

I don't think it'll be terrible but it would scare me if China started getting the same kind of cultural influence as the US did during it's 'golden age'.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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America is a perfect nation, in theory.

In practice, however, it has been defiled by mankind and his greed.

If we could return to the vision of our founders, The New Atlantis would be a fine place to live, and a fine juxtaposition to China.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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All Atlantises, which America is one now, suffer the same fate. And it's on its terminal stage.




posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 06:31 AM
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the world will instigate another war and we will continue with operation china depopulation just like dem educated folk never blink when they talk about depopulation without an actual plan. I guess when you talk about depopulation the implementation part is already assumed in the conversation.

Boy the china luvin commie professors are going to be real mad when they find out that we are depopulating them instead of ourselves




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