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Israel braces for Turkish, Hizballah, Hamas reprisals. Greece halts joint drill

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Violater1

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
reply to post by SWCCFAN
 

I have always thought that "The next war in the middle east will be with nukes" to be highly unlikely.




Really?
Ackmahandajob now has enough enriched material for two nukes. He has been quoted several times that he wants to start WWIII to bring in the last imam.





"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. (see former Royal Canadian Navy Intelligence Officer, William Guy Carr's books "Satan, Prince of this World" and "Pawns in the Game", p. xv-xvi, which includes extracts of Pike's letter
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Why doesn't anyone get it? There have been soooooo many posts on the Freemasons and Israel and the war they want and NEED to depopulate and take control of the rest of the world. This is all planned. The things they have done in the past merely lead to this type of thing. All the worlds a stage and we are merely players, performers and portrayers.....

Sad people these Zionists and Freemasons are. The day of judgement is coming fast, the elite have NO idea what they started and what WE will finish.




posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by bigyin

Originally posted by EGO84
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First of all, wikipedia isn't the most reliable of sources. Using wikipedia for academic work is not allowed at universities/colleges. Guess why this is.

But what you could read in wikipedia isn't different to what I said. There is a difference between getting kicked out of a country/region and giving it to a certain country. Maybe you're from Turkish descent?


It's sad to meet such racist attitude on ats


What has my descent got to do with anything ?

Just face facts ... go and edit wiki if ur not happy with it let me know when you have re written history.


Please explain why you claim I have a racist attitude.

And your descent has a lot to do with your viewpoint, since your environment mostly develops your way of thinking. So, I was curious to whether you were from Turkish descent.

Think about how Israeli's will see this situation, and how others will. Nothing racist about it... just people standing on the other side of a fence.

But your view of history is very ignorant. Face facts... my Turkish friend.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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Mods there are countless threads on this already when we only need one. These threads are taking up space.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Why doesn't anyone get it? There have been soooooo many posts on the Freemasons and Israel and the war they want and NEED to depopulate and take control of the rest of the world. This is all planned. The things they have done in the past merely lead to this type of thing. All the worlds a stage and we are merely players, performers and portrayers.....

Sad people these Zionists and Freemasons are. The day of judgement is coming fast, the elite have NO idea what they started and what WE will finish.


I think you are absolutly right. Both sides and indeed the entire worlds population are being played by the global elite. You just have to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. There are plenty of threads here on ATS that discuss the topic.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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You bring up an interesting point.

Even if the current civilian government ordered to military to escort these flotillas, would the military follow orders?

If I am not mistaken, the Turkish military sees themselves as keepers of the country's secularism.

It would be interesting to see if they would follow those orders and possibly ignite a wider ME war, or as you speculate, rebel and have a coup de'etat.

Really, I think that is a very plausible turn of future events given Turkeys recent history.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:04 AM
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double post

[edit on 1-6-2010 by ErEhWoN]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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reply to post by Interfacer
 



I think this aspect of the situation is being overlooked, except maybe by the POTUS.

Anyone in that situation would have done the same, of that I am convinced (i worked in a jail for 8 years, anyone in that situation and traing will defend themselves!)

I think the Turkish civilian govt set up the IDF.

US isnt the sole proprietor of false-flag operations, they are good in any country!


[edit on 1-6-2010 by ErEhWoN]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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I read this article with great interest and what struck me was: how can Greece even afford to host joint military drills? I thought they were in serious financial trouble? Seems to me they'd be better off not participating in the drill for purely financial reasons. I can imagine such a drill will costs hundreds of thousands of Euros, if not millions.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by ErEhWoN

I think the Turkish civilian govt set up the IDF.

US isnt the sole proprietor of false-flag operations, they are good in any country!


[edit on 1-6-2010 by ErEhWoN]


I'd agree with you except for the fact this took place in international waters. All Israel had to do was wait for the ship to penetrate into the buffer zone and all this would be "somewhat" justified. Israel screwed up in this regard and the world is left dealing with what to do. Too many lose-lose situations have spawned and NATO countries are left holding the bag. A NATO country attacks another NATO country, who backs who now?



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by EGO84

Originally posted by bigyin

Originally posted by EGO84
reply to post by bigyin
 


First of all, wikipedia isn't the most reliable of sources. Using wikipedia for academic work is not allowed at universities/colleges. Guess why this is.

But what you could read in wikipedia isn't different to what I said. There is a difference between getting kicked out of a country/region and giving it to a certain country. Maybe you're from Turkish descent?


It's sad to meet such racist attitude on ats


What has my descent got to do with anything ?

Just face facts ... go and edit wiki if ur not happy with it let me know when you have re written history.


Please explain why you claim I have a racist attitude.

And your descent has a lot to do with your viewpoint, since your environment mostly develops your way of thinking. So, I was curious to whether you were from Turkish descent.

Think about how Israeli's will see this situation, and how others will. Nothing racist about it... just people standing on the other side of a fence.

But your view of history is very ignorant. Face facts... my Turkish friend.




From what descent are you ? I'd like to know where stupidty originated.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Unnoan

Originally posted by ErEhWoN

I think the Turkish civilian govt set up the IDF.

US isnt the sole proprietor of false-flag operations, they are good in any country!


[edit on 1-6-2010 by ErEhWoN]


I'd agree with you except for the fact this took place in international waters. All Israel had to do was wait for the ship to penetrate into the buffer zone and all this would be "somewhat" justified. Israel screwed up in this regard and the world is left dealing with what to do. Too many lose-lose situations have spawned and NATO countries are left holding the bag. A NATO country attacks another NATO country, who backs who now?


Only Turkey is a NATO member

but... Israel/USA is the same country anyway... so yeah.. you are correct.

[edit on 1/6/10 by blackcube]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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I am reminded of Pearl Harbor and the Gulf Of Token by a couple of incidents of late. S Korea having a war ship sank and now this. The powers that be want nothing more than an incident. An incident to provoke "justification" for war. So insidious are our leaders that are little more than banker, corporate lackies. WAKE UP TO THEIR MADNESS and do not follow them. I speak specifically to soldiers now as you are their spear tip (I am a veteran of a foreign war). There is NOTHING to die for. There is NOTHING to kill for. Stand down for humanities sake. "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by UndergroundMilitia
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"This site is supposed to encourage the denial of ignorance. Ignorance is at an all time high here and I find myself in awe of the absurd posts I've seen of late, on all parts of ATS. Please, if you find the need to spread hate and lies refrain from posting. It doesn't do any of us any good."

Nor does willful ignorance. The only reason your defending Israel is because you have family there. Is it possible that you may be Jewish as well?


I have no religion, as I believe all organized religion is an outdated and absurd tradition that causes war and death in the name of God.

Being Jewish does not mean you are an Israeli. I have known plenty of Arabs and Israelis that are scumbags, just as I have known plenty of Americans, Mexicans and Africans that are scumbags too. But what does that have to do with this thread and the the issue at hand?



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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So I guess you didnt see the video then?

www.youtube.com...

(Warning Violent Content)


Go head and tell me these where non combatants that isreal fired on? All they had to do was let isreal check for weapons. Instead They tried to rip the IDF soldiers apart with metal poles. One idf got thrown down to a mob on the 1st deck head first.

Let me ask you this question. Your government asks you to enforce a blockade wether you agree with it or not as a soldier you are going to do the mission, Imagine being asked to fast rope onto a boat to search for weapons and your fellow soldiers are being murdered are you gonna leave the safety on??? Not saying I agree with the Israeli govt but I would have done the same thing in their shoes!!! I dont care who tries to bash me I stand by that statement.

www.youtube.com...



[edit on 1-6-2010 by Interfacer]

The problem here is that these people were not cowards like Israel figured they would be and actually fought for what they believed in. Of course they could have just surrendered to the big bad IDF but they chose not to. These people are heroes, the IDF is scum. Sometimes it takes people like these ones to make a real change!

Now of course if you are in the soldiers shoes you are going to probably start shooting or hey here is a better idea GTFO the boat or even surrender yourself but why do that when you have a gun and bullets controlled by god vs a bunch of people with metal rods. I'll bet you if those people had guns the coward IDF wouldn't have boarded the ship like that, since that would be a fair fight. They'd probably just sink the boat like true scumbags if they didn't surrender to them.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 06:11 PM
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Besides the fact that Israel should be punished for this, theres one thing...

Israel is always so precise and good at this kind of stuff... yet this time they send black ops against a mob?

What were they thinking? This isnt a job for a black ops team... dont they have anything better to deal with mobs? Like shock troopers or something?

Sending in black ops was wrong.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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I think Israel got the message. Now that they, along with Egypt, have relaxed the blockade, I do not see any conflict with Turkey in the near future. The AP just announced it, and there is a new thread that I created about it. www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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The moment you disagree with them, or say something negative(but factual), they label you racist.
It is I believe, an Islamic mentality.
Take for example the burqa stuff and cartoons of mohamod etc.
You can't criticise them because if you do, you are racist, but they are free to spread hate through their mosques etc.
I don't think his attitude has anything to do with him being from Turkey, but rather as I said above, it's an Islamic thing, because you see similar attitudes and tactics from them in western countries.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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Well, I think that may have been a message to Turkey.
Sort of like Israel was saying, you might be bigger, but we have the means and capabilities to defend our selves and cause you pain.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by SevenThunders
reply to post by Final Solstice
 


This will happen and of course it's the fondest wish of the muslim world. The Bible already prophesies this and tells us the outcome, from Zech. 12



1 This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: 2 "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. 3 On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. 4 On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. 5 Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts, 'The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.'
6 "On that day I will make the leaders of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume right and left all the surrounding peoples, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place.

7 "The LORD will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the house of David and of Jerusalem's inhabitants may not be greater than that of Judah. 8 On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them. 9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem.


I would recommend leaving Israel alone. Unfortunately I suspect that the stealth muslim in the white house will join in the invasion party if it happens now.


All that gibberish means is that god is a terrorist. If anybody really wants to nuke israel, I seriously doubt that anything could stop them. Just keep provoking everyone else, israel, and see what happens.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 12:02 AM
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cartoons of mohamod etc



and then you say that is criticizing lol..

Insulting and criticizing two different things.

You come in front of my face and insult my mom etc etc I might knock you out ^^ if I loose it that is ofcurse

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