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Originally posted by Yog-Sothoth
I've seen some wild comments in this thread...
I have heard that the Israelis shot out the engines of the other vessels, but did not do so to this one, as it was a large cruise ship, with lots of passengers. That is probably just a cover story to cover the fact that they wanted to do this no matter the cost...they probably had intelligence that some serious weaponry was on board.
The Israelis were not armed with assault rifles. They were armed with paintball guns, and pistols. I did not believe this at first, but in the very video in this thread you can see one of the commandos with such a gun, firing at those beating another downed commando. He seems to be firing at them in the face, to blind them. You can plainly see this at the 43 second mark.
After the occupants of the vessel would not stop, when fired upon by paintball guns, pistols were used. This is what caused the fatalities, not assault rifles or anything else.
If the boat was in international waters, then yeah, they should have waited. But, let's be honest here people. Most of the people on that boat were obviously extremely violent. What aid vessel has all of these metal poles lying around to use? Think about that...it was a cruise ship, which was being used as an aid vessel. Why were so many crude weapons available?
Honestly, the attack was poorly planned. Whoever was in command should be demoted at least, or kicked out of the military altogether. You never expect civilians to cower and run. You always give your enemy the full respect they deserve, and this commander did not. He had the tables turned on his soldiers, and the result is chaos.
Where are the flashbangs, smoke grenades, tasers, etc.? If I was sent in as a commando with a paintball gun as my main weapon, I would resign before ever boarding a helicopter.
Both sides are not innocent. Both sides did some very stupid things, and just shows how much they mistrust each other. And, sadly, the reasons are all too obvious in the video.
A major change needs to happen to resolve the violence from both sides. We cannot continue as we do on this planet, beating, maiming, murdering, and killing each other. And, I honestly don't know what could stop all the violence...but I am personally sick of it.
Originally posted by Magic Bullet
reply to post by benadrit
Piracy is what happens around Somalia, What happened here was a country trying to stop TERRORISTS importing arms and the materials of conflict into there country.Why dont you speak out about Hamas firing indiscriminate rockets into Israel killing INNOCENT civilians. But Israelis are not people to you are they!!
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by airspoon
They are there most likely for the self defence purpose. You can't call them terrorists. They did not initiate the attack. You are blind.
Unless you are a jew yourself, I don't think you believe you are making sense yourself on this. You will say anything to justify your stance. False propaganda, trying to mitigate the Isralei crime.
Time to condemn arrogant, out of hand, rogue Israel.
ROGUE ISRAEL !!!
Iran would never do this kind of crime on the other hand.
Time to investigate Israeli nuclear stock pile of nuclear weapons. The WMD.
WMD is in Israel, nowhere else in the Middle East.
All these times, they have been searching wrong places.
Originally posted by TSawyer
What were the Khazar pirates ("IDF soldiers") doing on the flippant boat? Do you treat people who intrude your private properly with hospitality? I am going to ask my Jewish friend to rob your house. If you call the police me and him will you call you an anti-Semite and ask the police to arrest you for being a terrorist.
[edit on 31-5-2010 by TSawyer]