reply to post by Danbones
I'm really after the mistaken notions that people use to justify war...because they are a manipulation that takes advantage of people's
faith...religious and political...
"Through deception though shall wage war"
I would be hard pressed to debate this point with you because this is also what I think. Most war is deception and often at the expense of the
ordinary person of all the nations. In this manner war itself is a decption on the people of a nation. One learns to ask the question..what religion
is this when one sees it being practiced over and over in history...the religion of deception??
It becomes obvious by the manner in which it happens over and over and over..that war is part of a very devout and zealous religion at work...by the
very frequency of it's taking place.
However...what is not often recognized is that the body politic of any nation is of faith...another faith..not the one advertised. A faith not known
by most of the people they intend to rule/deceive/control.
They will use/misuse any religion to keep and maintain this control. The gist of it is that the public must never catch on to what is happening
..never connect the dots. Government schools only educate sufficiently to keep the people working as needed and then distracted/entertained/amused.
This becomes obvious even by reading many of the posts here on ATS/BTS. Amusements Amuse
Understanding about the two religions, the two lights is key.
Just look at Obama - a peace prize and he just sent special forces to 75 countries...to combat creations of the US government.
Obama is no different than the other Presidents who preceded him. Only a different variety..but Occult nonetheless. The problem with this
administration just like the Administrations in England ..is that it becomes more and more obvious that they represent someone ..just not the American
Peoples. In like manner the English Government represents someone ..just not the English people anymore.
That I can tell ...our government has been slowly hijacked from us here in America since at least the Spanish American War. There were attempts from
the beginning of this country to steer it away from the Constitution and substitute something privily over the top of it ...just as did the Hebrews in
Ancient Israel..nothing new going on here.
Al Qaeda was created by the CIA, in their offices in Washington D.C., According to Richard Clark in his most recent book. It was created for
Saudi Arabia to bankroll Osama bin Laden, through the House of Saud, "in the Afghan war against the Soviet Union during the 1980's and Riyadh and
Washington together contributed an estimated $3.5 billion to the mujahideen."
richard clarks bio:
I somewhat believe this as even Hitler was financed in the early days by Wall Street and loans and technology from America. So too was Soviet Russia,
also Communist China today. In like manner Japan was built into its Empire on the backs of western monies and technology transfers. We have built our
own enemies...over and over and over.
I speak here not of America per se..but internationalists...financiers who's loyalty is not to the country in which they live or dwell..but their
loyalty is to their investments.
And these people/groups will pit one country after another against each other to protect their investments. They will even use/misuse religion in
their efforts. This is the trail of what we call History of logical reasonable men. And it is they who are financing governments, nations, and the
education systems of these.
Zbigniew Brezinsky is an internationalist...so too is Henry Kissinger. They are the visible faces for something not seen.
After all Jesus was the "prince of peace", so making war seems like something Christians ought to be opposed to I would think.
There is no such instruction to spread the Gospel..the Word by the sword. It does not exist.
Unfortunately ..most Christians are ignorant about many things ..including the Bible..sad to say but true. They are often dumb as a box of rocks about
things biblical..much less about Occult religions and Occult history.
I am often want to state so in my posts about Believers.
However...many atheist are also dumb as a box of rocks on the same topics. And our public education systems excels at turning out this kind of
"Wildlife" steeped in base animal passion and beliefs/entitlements.
All I have to do is look at the overall quality and fingerprint coming out of England, Canada, and Australia...and it is very heavily atheistic in its
nature. Its prime religion is Humanitarianism..or Humanism. The deification of men and men's reason/thinking. Demigods.
Demigods is also what is being encouraged by the NWO goals. Feudalism..feudal thinking and fiefdoms. A return to the olde feudal systems using
technology to control and regulate the new feudal template.
I think religion should stay out of politics, other peoples' bedrooms, and
Democracy and religion don't work when enforced on other people
I think religion should stay out of politics as well. For by men's logic and reason we now have an occult religion dwelling in politics ..often
masquerading as Christian when it is no such thing.
Also politics is become of such whoredom in its occult workings that this system used to be interested in a candidates tax forms years ago..now they
are interested in such smear techniques that it is they themselves interested in peoples bedrooms. They are become the very thing they like to rail
against. They are whores and whoremasters. They are part of a counterfeit system...and the counterfeiter.
While I understand your point you are trying to make..I don't think you are taking it sufficiently far.
As to Democracy...I think Democracy is a hoax. It is part and parcel of this counterfeit system of which I speak. The very Occult system...of
counterfeits, wars, and rumors of wars. I think democracy is part of a hidden religion while claiming to desire separation of church and state. I
think democracy is a lie.
I am all for separation of church and state. But the history of logical, reasonable, intelligent men shows no separation of church and state...even
amongst a democracy. There are valid historical reasons for separation of church and state...if one knows the history.
Learning to share is something a 5 year old must learn.
I don't have a problem with learning to share. I have a problem with it when it becomes an entitlement regulated and controlled by government. Here
you are back to religion again..by government decree...lack of separation of church and state. Divine right of kings.
I do not believe in entitlement thinking and politics/religion. I think it is a fraud and a scam.
I am going to disagree with you here...
Dogma and responsible, inteligent thought are incompatible
Depends on the dogma..and its source.
When you read books like "Morals and Dogma" which is occult in its nature..they disagree with you as well. And "Morals and Dogma" is the pattern
of operation which governs the actions and thinking/rationale of most of our current day crop of politicians and leaders. This book will also even
cover the proper ceding to ones passions in the quest to become the absolute master of everything as they state.
It is people, not some celestial sky god who have to take responsibility for
all these inhumanities, we have the right to self determination and justifying actions against other people by the use of religion
is a cop out.
Danbones, This quote of yours above...looks very reasonable and logical until one reads the history of men. Particularly the history of men since the
French Revolution and into the 20th century.
During this time period..the time of Enlightenment..reason and logic of men...to the glory of men and man's greatness. More people have been killed,
slaughtered, and outright murdered across continent after continent than in centuries before.
This is the major problem with your argument against what you thinking is religion and dogma.
This is why I strongly suggest you rethink what is dogma and religion. I suggest you are only seeing a small part of the picture. That your education
and beliefs allow you only to see a small provincial part of a bigger picture. It was designed to keep you this provincial.
More people have been killed in and across this world since the time of Enlightenment than in the centuries before..in a much shorter more brief
period of time.
This is how one knows the numbers do not add up to good nonsense...by logic by reason..by common sense..once one knows the history. This slaughter is
continuing and will wax worse..by human logic and reasoning.
I tend not to put alot of stock in the greatness of men.
Thanks for your post.