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Turkish Navy will Escort aid to Gaza

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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by joechip
you never addressed the simple question: even if this was a 'tragic mistake' WHY is it okay to sink ships in international waters regardless of who they might or might not be? isn't that a crime?
Answer that...and I'll know you are at least engaged enough in the discourse to address a real question.


It's not okay and I have never said it is. You speak like I even justified it, sheesh.
All I've said that it is a tragic mistake (and presented evidence), I've never said it is okay or justified. That's your question? That's the thing that should tell you I'm willing to address a real question? Pretty weak if you ask me because all I did for the last pages was prove myself time after time while you guys just ignored my well obvious facts and made up stuff of your own. I mean look at this joke-HotPot guy, can you even take his stuff seriously?
As to WHY it even happened at all, regardless of who they were or weren't, Israel was at war with several nations being Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The Israeli PM told the Americans to stay away so they will not bomb them by mistake. Like I've originally posted, the communication havn't reached the USS Liberty from the US army officials and they didn't back off like it was planned. Mistakenly 'knowing' any american ship will be at distance, the IDF thought the Liberty is an enemy ship and rushed at it before it's going close (or so they thought it would).

A stupid friendly fire, yet not a deliberate one.

Things like that happen nowdays all the time EVEN with modern ID systems and GPS satellites. You wanna tell me it's so farfetched it happened 40 years ago?

Now you answer MY question - what would Israel gain by deliberately sinking a ship of their only ally at the time, who have supplied them with weapons since the moment they became independent? They knew they aren't going to last for long in this hostile neighborhood they're at, and they are dependent greatly on the US even if they are "independent". What logic is there to DELIBERATELY bomb your only ally to death?

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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:30 PM
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and another, the recent Polish `air crash´, false flag again. The russian guy who put the video of the 4 survivors being shot after the plane crashed in the woods on you tube, was stabbed to death in a russian hospital. Now that the Polish government is in turmoil, the missile defence shield can safely be put in place as we speak.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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It's just a threat. It means nothing. Turkey won't do anything.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:37 PM
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Great post, I think everyone should read about the USS LIBERTY ater all it is a very important part of our history that people should always remember. Especially in the light of everything that is happening now. God forbid that something so barbaric should ever be allowed to happen again.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by SparKzzz
Seriously now, you're not being funny nor entertaining and you are just spamming this thread.
Kindly piss off.


Take your own advice.
2nd line.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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not spamming buddy, google it or you tube it. learn about HAARP and how its being used. Look up Prescott Bush and his ties with Hitler, you tube the polish plane crash, it in russian with with english subtitles, you can see the 4 survivors getting shot and hear it. Check out Jane Burgermeister and how she blew the whistle last year on the swine flu hoax on the drug company Bayer. Check out the the Oklahoma building facts, see what the academics have proved about the the front of the building being from the inside outwards, (the same company that cleaned up right after WTC collapses also cleaned up after Oklahoma, hired by FEMA). Check it out.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Im happy that turkey will escort the next wave, this needs to stop, the war israel and palestine must stop, children and innocents die on both sides, they both need a time out.

Where all equal so she should have the same rights and liberties.

And plz people stop the swinging pendulum of racism, it seems that to say israel did something wrong you must be anti semite, and if you say israel has the right to defend itself, your a radical israelite



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:43 PM
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Iran producing higher-enriched uranium: IAEA




Iran is pressing ahead with its controversial atomic programme, producing enriched uranium at higher levels of purification and installing more machinery, a restricted UN report revealed on Monday. The UN atomic watchdog said Iran had produced at least 5.7 kilos (12.5 pounds) of higher-enriched uranium, adding that it remained concerned about the true nature of the nuclear activities, which Tehran insists are peaceful. "Based on an overall analysis ... of all the information available, the agency remains concerned about the possible existence in Iran of past or current undisclosed nuclear related activities, involving military related organisations," the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said in the restricted report obtained by AFP.



Dig that "involving military related organisations:,

Do the actions of Turkey delay or even change any plans IDF have for Iranian nucleat infrastructure?

If theres anything I learned, history does have a tendancy to repeat, especialy when it comes to Isreal and nuke sites.

It does add some extra 'spice' to this current mix.

forgot to add, Maybe POTUS is not excactly the best position to be in right now, or do we have the right man for the times? Either way, I do not evny being in his shoes right now, talk about a full plate!

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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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STOP! JUST STOP! Childish bickering. The entire world hangs in balance at the moment and you are arguing semantics. This situation is truly earth shattering. There should be no reason peoples don't go to war if Israel decides to attack the remaining convoy.
I would vote for war against them. If they decide to launch a nuke then we drop 20 and nuke them into a parking lot.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:46 PM
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I love how Hasbara operates... after Israel makes some mess, after they kill another round of innocent people Hasbara operatives are nowhere to see in the first few hours.

Then they got their orders, the pack of lies and fabricated links are distributed through JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) and robots start to occupy every single place on the net.

This thread is a perfect example. First 5-6 pages were people shocked by another Israel crime and after that all you can see are Hasbara morons.

Good example of this moronic "I-write-what-they-told-me" posts is one containing "photo proofs" of dangerous terrorist-supported aid workers (who cares about the fact that some high profile people from EU, members of Parliament, ex US colonels, ex US Congressmen, Nobel award laureates etc were on the boat.. Hasbara morons would rather show that they are morons than to write something out of lines of JIDF provided materials).

Below is the photo added by one of those morons. It firstly appeared on Haaretz this morning in the article that should back up IDF Hi-Tech lies about Flotilla massacre. That photo on Haaretz was followed with explanation that these people are attacked ships passengers and that photo was taken when IDF butchers attacked the ship.

If you look behind these people on the photo you can clearly see the brilliant day light, this photo was probably taken somewhere arround 1pm
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If some of you were not watching the attack on live turkish TV stream yesterday morning, attack started in the darkness of the night and finished while day light was still no close to be clear.

But moronic idiots and liars missed that, some bearded man with knife in his hand looked perfect way to excuse the massacre on innocent civils and humanitarian activists on private, foreign flagged ship in international waters.

Burn in hell morons !!! Scumbags without any moral and respect to the people killed in a mission to help people living the hell on the Earth because of those Israeli nazis.

Here is Hasbara (Pinnochio would be more appropriate name) "proof"




I'm not sure why the image doesn't show, I guess it's due my post count, it's inside img tags





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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:51 PM
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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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Ok , I Deserved that . Hope this Conflict can be resolved Diplomaticlly between the Two Countries to Avoid futher Bloodshed.....



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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You have forgot one tiny fact - those people never intended and never stated they intend to visit your country. I doubt they find anything interested there.

Their mission was to bring an aid to people of Gaza and that's not your country and neither the sea in the front of Gaza is your sea.

The simple fact is - they would never touch a single feet of Israeli territory and are attacked at high sea. That's a pure state supported terrorism and piracy.

Nobody buys your lies anymore, this is something you can't cover with all BS Al Qaida/Hamas/terrorist crap.



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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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Oh, and as i`m boring you, try yawning at this. this one pissed me off coz i liked the guy. Michael Jackson was assassinated, 4 days before his `This is It´ tour he announced that he was going to tell the world of the illuminati conspiracy behind the music scene and how they have manipulated great artists to sing specially written songs in order to `dumb down´ the masses. Those bastards killed him after they made him bankrupt, because he refused to sing certain songs written for him by the Illuminati. This happened also to Tupac.
BTW, the CIA and Illuminati work close together, they have used pop icons for years to dumb down the masses, the US commander of the navy at the Gulf of Tonkin was given a special reward for his silence about the false flag op, they made his son a legend in the music business. I`ll tell you the name of the US navy commander and you can guess who his son is/was (and just for the record, the son `silenced´ same way MJ was), dads name is George Stephen Morrison.

No, I aint spamming.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by harrycook27
You have forgot one tiny fact - those people were never intended and never stated to intend to visit your country. I doubt they find anything interested there.

My country? Lmfao, I'm an Israeli now?
Anyway, stupidity aside..
They openly stated they are intending to break a naval blockade, zoom through Israel's waters (the course to Gaza is through Israeli waters, tough luck) and reach Gaza, a destination where nobody can enter without being inspected for weapons by IDF, and smartly so considering the amount of weapons smuggled into the area in the last decade, that has led to a 8 years barrage of Kassams on Ashkelon and Sderot.


Their mission was to bring an aid to people of Gaza and that's not your country and neither the sea in the front of Gaza is your sea.

It's not Israel's shore, but the waters around it are more than definately Israeli.
Also, if they only wanted to get aid inside, how come they didn't use the same port the UN ships dock at to unload their aid weekly, 15 tons at that? Ashdod port, that is. Yeah, they were thinking there is a better chance to pass through the Israeli navy. How convincing, not.


Nobody buys your lies anymore, this is something you can't cover with all BS Al Qaida/Hamas/terrorist crap.

BLAH BLAH BLAH NOBODY BUIS YOR LIES!11
That's all you hear in this place, yet NOBODY ever brings forward ANY kind of proof. And if you'd care to look some pages backwards, I've presented some proof for the stuff I have claimed.

Take your horrid stories elsewhere.

Lol from deciding I'm a Hasbara agent, you went on to insist I'm an Israeli, and I just can't wait to see what you'll make of me in your next post! ;D please let it be something exciting.

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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 11:04 PM
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Seems to me this is the typical Israeli hate thread, where numerous people well coordinated show up and spew they hatred against Israel for taking action against war mongers looking to smuggle weapons into the Gaza. Who are the bots?

Considering what the Turks did to the Armenians and the Kurds, they don't have a moral leg to stand on.

This very well could be the beginning of WW III. NATO isn't going to back Turkey in supporting people aiming at smuggling weapons into Gaza.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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Yeah, this has the POTENTIAL to explode,especialy with the IAEA report on the Iranian nuclear enrichment, and its ties to the military.

If IDF goes into Iran, surley Hezbollah will throw some stones from the North.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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I've shown what kind of "proof" you have provide here.

And BTW, even if passengers were able to kill every damn commando piece of # that would be a quite appropriate answer on illegal attack on their ship, a private foreign flagged territory in high seas.

But unfortunately they couldn't, they were just ordinary people in the humanitarian mission, something heartless morons could never understand as their life's mission is to take a happiness from people not to bring it to them.

We'll see how it would finish when another convoy comes escorted by some tough and trained moustached Anatolians


Enough is enough !!!

That's all I wanted to say... good luck to normal people, morons - die in hell !



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