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how hard is it to build a UFO?

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posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 05:48 PM
reply to post by LUXUS

That might be another way to create a magnetic vortex.

posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 10:30 AM
The 'zero point field' (ZPF) seems to be the key connection to overcoming gravity:
"We believe that by utilizing these new BEC [Bose-Einstein Condensate] compounds, an interactive force can be exerted on the ZPF and the reaction used for propellantless flight or the generation of clean energy."

It seems that they think spinning those monoatoms (deformed single metal atoms) in a torrid accelerator exerts an influence on the zero point field, which in turn - repells natural gravity force.

Are the metalic monoatoms creating a magnetic vortex, which acts on the ZPF to affect gravity?

And here's a ZPF 'FTL communication' method goodie they state:
"We believe that it might be possible to build custom plasma field units that are capable of transmitting and receiving messages by resonance-tuning them through the ZPF."

Yea... 'subspace communications' for Lt. Uhura, aboard the C-57D hyperspace flying saucer!

[edit on 6/5/2010 by Larryman]

posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Dr Slim
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

what proof do you have that einstien knew about UFO's

Would not Einstein read the news whenever Tesla published something
note worthy.
Also if Tesla built an electric vector craft that pulled itself up and
around in the ether, Einstein would understand that as well.
Einstein could not claim ignorance.
Foos and saucers were around in Einstein's time.
If you think Einstein said there was no ether he might have lied
or you are mistaken.
Einstein would not divulge top secret information as even William
Reich in his visit with Einstein found out.
So perhaps we have a case of deny secrets.

posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Larryman
reply to post by LUXUS

That might be another way to create a magnetic vortex.

Saucers use the electric vector not the magnetic vector which begins
and ends on itself whereas the electric vector extends out into space
as far as the ether can be penetrated.
Which it does to accumulate the force of electricity to overcome

posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 12:45 PM
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

My understanding of the magnetic 'vortex' is that it is not a conventional magnetic field. I think it's field lines of force are constricted in the center (between it's north and south polarities) to an infinite small 'zero point'. It takes the shape of of two cones, placed with their points together. Thus, when spinning, it affects the zero point field.

Could zero point field (vacuum energy) be the same thing as aether?
And did Tesla's anti-gravity use a 'spinning' high voltage field?

Perhaps Tesla was using an 'electrical' version of the 'magnetic' vortex, and tapping into the same zero point field, which he called aether.

[edit on 6/5/2010 by Larryman]

posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 09:56 AM
reply to post by Larryman

I'll have to check your method out as I do have a youtube video
in channel teslaandlyne that has radial magnetic lines, even though
they do make complete circles, but in a flat coil under time varying
conditions will generate an electric E vector field that goes in circles.
I could not figure out much used for it except to make ball lightning.
Also if Tesla ether ships use the coil at some point we might see the
a ball lightning effect. And because of being flat and electrical the
normal drum vibrations possible might be observed as flashes of
light combinations from any such ship. See a link in info section of
the video. Representative UFO videos might be seen from time to
time. The pressure pulse method of Tesla used to light up evacuated
glass bulbs and eventually the air/ether in his lab is thought to be the
dead giveaway of the flying ship like the foo of Germany yet without
mass media being directed by the intel (16?) services there is no chance
of letting Tesla out of the bag. Too many Marlowe's in the world writing
alien stories.

posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 10:29 AM
Obviously cant be that hard considering the mechanical lab rats at S4 have managed to back engineer craft and fly them since god knows how long.

posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Munji
Obviously cant be that hard considering the mechanical lab rats at S4 have managed to back engineer craft and fly them since god knows how long.

Tell that to NASA!
They're still back egineering rockets.

posted on Jun, 6 2010 @ 05:16 PM
These craft actually use a rapidly rotating electrostatic field of extremely high potential. As you will understand a moving charge generates a magnetic field so the effect of a rapidly rotating electrostatic field is the production of a very intense magnetic field. The combined effect of these fields manipulates the localised vacuum energy to produce an area of lower energy density around the craft. The result of this is the production of gravitational vectors and the negation of mass.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 05:14 PM
I'm not sure about a magnetic field unless there is an extreme electric
current and this does not seem to be the case.
Voltage is stressing the ether into electrical stress and physical mechanical
pressure that might be picked up by a receiving coil that is not
connected in a loop but open at one end like an antenna.
Closed coil for magnetism and open coil for electric operation.

Take the case of the Mythbusters and the levitation device that
they proved to be an ion force suspension.
They placed the device into a vacuum chamber and the device did not move.
The voltage and signal may not have been proper for lift but
under the workings of straight to ether from a coil the whole vacuum
chamber would be expected to be lifted with the coil inside.
Thats how the ships work and do to a number of reasons the device
stayed put.

posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 12:04 AM

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posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 09:07 AM
The matter of rotation is out except for the rotary generators on board.
According to the Tesla craft theory by Lyne Tesla would have used his
towers to power his aircraft and when the Tower went down he immediately
started development of an internal combustion engine and voltage generator.

The anti gravity comes from pulses in one direction that pull the ship up.

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 10:41 AM
reply to post by Dr Slim

Gotta bump this thread

But honestly, do you really think that America has invested any time or research into space craft?

Furthermore, let's be honest - we probably don't have ANY exotic propulsion capabilities.....

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 10:51 AM
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

Greetings T&L!! Thought you might like this:

FRANKLIN MEAD AND JACK NACHAMKIN Patent US 5,590,031 31st December 1996 Inventors: Franklin Mead & Jack Nachamkin SYSTEM FOR CONVERTING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION ENERGY TO ELECTRICAL ENERGY This patent shows a system for converting Zero-Point Energy into conventional electrical power. ABSTRACT A system is disclosed for converting high-frequency zero-point electromagnetic radiation energy to electrical energy. The system includes a pair of dielectric structures which are positioned near each other and which receive incident zero-point electromagnetic radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are selected so that they resonate at a frequency of the incident radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are also slightly different so that the secondary radiation emitted from them at resonance, interferes with each other producing a beat frequency radiation which is at a much lower frequency than that of the incident radiation and which is amenable to conversion to electrical energy. An antenna receives the beat frequency radiation. The beat frequency radiation from the antenna is transmitted to a converter via a conductor or waveguide and converted to electrical energy having a desired voltage and waveform. US Patent References: 3882503 May., 1975 Gamara 343/100. 4725847 Feb., 1988 Poirier 343/840. 5008677 Apr., 1991 Trigon et al. 342/17. DESCRIPTION BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION The invention relates generally to conversion of electromagnetic radiation energy to electrical energy, and, more particularly, to conversion of high frequency bandwidths of the spectrum of a type of radiation known as ‘zero- point electromagnetic radiation’ to electrical energy. The existence of zero-point electromagnetic radiation was discovered in 1958 by the Dutch physicist M. J. Sparnaay. Mr. Sparnaay continued the experiments carried out by Hendrik B. G. Casimir in 1948 which showed the existence of a force between two uncharged parallel plates which arose from electromagnetic radiation surrounding the plates in a vacuum. Mr. Sparnaay discovered that the forces acting on the plates arose from not only thermal radiation but also from another type of radiation now known as classical electromagnetic zero-point radiation. Mr. Sparnaay determined that not only did the zero-point electromagnetic radiation exist in a vacuum but also that it persisted even at a temperature of absolute zero. Because it exists in a vacuum, zero-point radiation is homogeneous and isotropic as well as ubiquitous. In addition, since zero-point radiation is also invariant with respect to Lorentz transformation, the zero-point radiation spectrum has the characteristic that the intensity of the radiation at any frequency is proportional to the cube of that frequency. Consequently, the intensity of the radiation increases without limit as the frequency increases resulting in an infinite energy density for the radiation spectrum. With the introduction of the zero-point radiation into the classical electron theory, a vacuum at a temperature of absolute zero is no longer considered empty of all electromagnetic fields. Instead, the vacuum is now considered as filled with randomly fluctuating fields having the zero-point radiation spectrum. The special characteristics of the zero-point radiation which are that it has a virtually infinite energy density and that it is ubiquitous (even present in outer space) make it very desirable as an energy source. However, because high energy densities exist at very high radiation frequencies and because conventional methods are only able to convert or extract energy effectively or efficiently only at lower frequencies at which zero-point radiation has relatively low energy densities, effectively tapping this energy source has been believed to be unavailable using conventional techniques for converting electromagnetic energy to electrical or other forms of easily usable energy. Consequently, zero-point electromagnetic radiation energy which may potentially be used to power interplanetary craft as well as provide for society's other needs has remained unharnessed.


posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 12:51 PM
reply to post by Yukitup

The only free energy sources seem to be the stars.
And the best one is the closest the Sun.
So far the ether is a transfer mechanism for ether sound waves
so that might be a source of energy origination from the Sun.
Also particles and neutrinos from the sun might be converted
into energy of some sort.

But here is the big news. A new and powerful energy source
is not needed for the UFO.
The mechanism of electricity to momentum might have been an
old concern that people wondered about was truly found by Tesla.
Bill Lyne has some UFO plans using coils that might work as he
said would not take a very great voltage, I said a million, and
he indicated some people did have successful models based on
his use of the Tesla approach that he had reasoned Tesla had done.

edit on 10/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: only free

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 01:01 PM
Perhaps they could put the magnetic mechanics into something like this...

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 01:41 PM

Originally posted by nakiannunaki
Perhaps they could put the magnetic mechanics into something like this...

Sell that one short.
If they ever do make one that worked those plans would be changed greatly.
ED: Note the saucer shape to make people they have saucer technology.
If a balloon they are using a lot of weight to make a rigid structure like zeppelins
just to fill with gas.
ED: They are going to have to fool the JP Morgans of the world and the best
there was couldn't do it.
edit on 10/29/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 03:37 PM
reply to post by Yukitup

They must feel pretty small in the shadow of the great one Werner Von Braun.
He was the only one to make or fake the big fueled space ship.
The reason is he could do both.
Yes VB is greatly responsible for the UFO space ship and so great was his
leverage he got the job for the space rocket we know today.
The only one that went from drawing to metal.
Guess who's shadow Von Brown stood in while learning the ether craft.
It was Tesla according to William Lyne.
I would have to agree with that consequence of his investigations.

posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 03:49 PM
reply to post by Yukitup

The first patent for electrical charged batteries from the atmosphere must have been
from Tesla. He sort of started the whole tradition.
My suggestion is follow the leader and most do not as they are scripted from their
terrible education about electricity and energy.
Tesla said EM did not exist and electricity went into sound waves in the atmosphere.
Special sound waves that went the speed of light.
Thus I like his metal ether sound wave devise patent for capturing atmospheric electricity.

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