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how hard is it to build a UFO?

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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I cant seem to understand your meaning of this thread. Ufo= unidentified flying objects.
We humans have built many advanced aircrafts the last 100 years, some of them were built with technology wich we got from a spesific alien race, the same race we have been working with over 60 years now.

But a UFO,what is that? If we simply build a different shaped aircraft than we are used to observe, this aircraft would be a UFO on a cloudy and rainy day. If we cant identify it,its a UFO. Simple as that.




posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by DJLateralus
Good Question.

My opinion is we already have UFO's...however, for the sake of being factual




We have created UFOs, however, they were not of "alien quality"

I'd say we're at most 50-100 years behind the technology required for interstellar travel.
It's just a matter of time...


when will people grasp the fact that UFO is Unindetified Flying Object

NOT
a flying saucer

if i throw a shoe and my neighbor can tell what it is, then its a UFO for my neighbor, if you see a hovering disc, then you can say: oi dats some effing flying saucer here.


[edit on 1/6/2010 by Nupster]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 09:34 AM
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if you both read one of my replies you will see that i regret calling this thread what i did, i suggest you read my post.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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I'll try.


He's been trying to sell it to private coorperations, no one will take it.


i will have to bug my friend to take me to his place again, honestly hes my friends friend and i only met him once and got to see it, i never saw it in action but my friend and him insured me that it worked.

but like i said it looks almost exactly like the billy mier crafts



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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what scares me the most is after building a flying saucer and test flying it, I wonder how long it would take the military and the MIB's to show up and sterilize everything including me, family and neigbors...

And for the sake of discussion on "ufo" versus "flying saucer"
most everyone naturally assumes they are the same thing even though technically they aren't.. so, for the folks crying about this, no one minds except maybe you
it's no big crime


and dr. slim, yeah the "organ taker" is what I really found hilarious about that avatar


[edit on 1-6-2010 by alienreality]



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Seems to me that there are two basic problems you have to solve in order to build a functional trans-dimensional (or whatever) UFO. The first thing you need is a really small but really powerful electromagnetic field generator/ focuser to "reach into" or "bend" spacetime in such a way that you can move from one place to another. Enlarging a microwormhole so you can fit through, basically. Of course, that's going to be a problem without some kind of exotic material we don't have yet. Our most powerful reactors and colliders are way too big to fit in a nice little saucer. Maybe there's a way around that, but nobody knows what that is at the moment.

The second thing you need to figure out is how to construct the device in such a way that you and it are connected by your consciousness. Because once you go through the wormhole, you're going to have to essentially re-create the universe around you by perceiving it and actualizing it at a particular time and place. And to do this, you're not only going to have to have your own mind and every living cell in your body tuned into the new time and place, you'll need to have the ship there, too. So it's going to have to be connected to you and your reality, and amplifying it all as you travel, since imagination is one thing, but it takes real power to reconstruct a reality around that imagination.

Those are the two biggest hurdles to building a real flying spacecraft/time machine. Of course, if you just want a UFO, you could always strap some LEDs on a balloon and send it up over a crowd somewhere. It's a lot less expensive.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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Well that rather depends on exactly what you mean by your question. If what you mean is , how hard would it be to build something that fits the physical description of a UFO and make it fly , then I guess it wouldnt be particularly hard.
If however, what you meant was, how hard would it be to build an exact working replica of an existing UFO , capable of the insane manouvres witnessed and documented in reports, capable of going from standing to mach speeds with no acceleration , just instant speed, then I would say , virtualy impossible with our current physics, engineering, material supply, and a range of other factors.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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then I would say , virtualy impossible with our current physics, engineering, material supply, and a range of other factors


That's been said for fifty years now. I think that excuse is getting a little old.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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You asked how hard is it to build a craft that would have the characteristics of those UFOs (speed , maneouverability, elusivity, etc). In my view it is as hard as getting scientists to co-operate with the likes of philosophers, magicians, shamans , asperger sufferers, and whathaveyou.

The truth is that science and technology by themselves are limited and can only go so far. To break new ground , you need inspiration and a new way of thinking . That is what is missing. If science can embrace the less tangible notions, then progress can be made.

Even when their own people delve into quantum mechanics and discover the marvel of it all, the rest (and majority) of the scientists are simply not interested. They would rather hold on to their own rigid concepts and have no place for the notion that matter is entirely dependent on who is there to observe it.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Larryman
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then I would say , virtualy impossible with our current physics, engineering, material supply, and a range of other factors


That's been said for fifty years now. I think that excuse is getting a little old.


Agreed. There are things we can do now, particularly with unmanned craft, that are essentially indistinguishable from the old reports of UFOs/flying saucers. At least most of them. As far as I know, we're still not able to bend time or project images via telepathy into people's heads. But then again, I don't know what I don't know, and maybe somebody is already working on those things.



posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 06:05 PM
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The biggest hurdle to overcome when building a UFO would be to build a mechanism to allow you to hover and fly silently, fly very fast and make unbelievably sharp turns that defy the laws of physics. Just accomplishing the first one, building a flying machine that can hover silently, would be the toughest hurdle to accomplish. A hot air balloon can do it, but look how large and bulbous the balloon holding the hot air has to be in order to lift the weight of the basket. The UFOs presented in the pictures in this thread would not be silent just hovering in the sky.



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Shift
The second thing you need to figure out is how to construct the device in such a way that you and it are connected by your consciousness.

So it's going to have to be connected to you and your reality, and amplifying it all as you travel, since imagination is one thing, but it takes real power to reconstruct a reality around that imagination.


Now that's what I call a super post! Star for you Blue Shift! I agree that in the future we'd be controlling craft with our minds. Even in our cosy little dimension. No control columns, no joysticks, no collectives, no cyclics. Just thought!

I think ETs millions of years ahead of us in technology, are probably doing just this. In fact it's likely that some very advanced cultures may not be using physical means for inter galactic travel at all! They could be exploring the universe just by thought.

Now that seems pretty far fetched. But what do we know? Nix!



posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Building a Foo/saucer/UFO ship must be easy.
I think Einstein knew.
After Reich told him.
And von Braun and Professor Oberth.
Whos saucer Reich knocked out of the sky.
They appear as the main builders as history might show.
Yeah I know rockets.
Rockets were already developed and handed over to less crews.
The Illuminati work was on the saucer of Tesla.
The atomic bomb being the pinnacle of Illuminati thus far.
Willy Ley was perhaps in the America saucer works as well.
He impressed Hitler with his microwave work.
Then woops America needed high frequency for the saucer.
Perhaps none knew of the Tesla origin but some think von Braun
knew and may have met Tesla.
Any info on that let us know ok.
Can you think of any more names in the forefront of technology
at that time of saucer spotting 1950s.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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what proof do you have that einstien knew about UFO's
?



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Slim
Here's some pictures and designs of the avrocar.

Here's another picture of it in flight:



Here's a similar man-made flying saucer:

from 1:30 in www.cbsnews.com...


and this UFO was harder to build than it looks:

gizmodo.com...


The builder, Linn Murphy, said aeronautical engineers told him it wouldn't fly. But somehow it does!

Building one that can fly to other planets or stars will be a lot harder.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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Well it would seem an old argument I suppose. But only if you ignore the possible origins of these objects. If you believe that UFO generaly are earth born mechanical devices, then of course the technology to build them already exists as far as you are concerned.
If however you believe that UFO come from outside our planets atmosphere, then that leaves a few more exotic possibilities. Now of course there are various planets in our own solar system, and as we are increasingly finding on our own earth, life has a way of happening in almost all the least habitable locations one could think of. Scientists even speak of possible life in the gassy atmosphere of venus, a harsh environs to be sure. With that in mind you could be forgiven for thinking that UFO are from within our own solar system, and of course, that would likely mean that the technology driving them, could logicaly be assumed to be mere decades ahead of us. Although such assumption is stretching things a little since for all we know the other planets of our solar system could have harboured life for eons, if you are willing to believe they do now!
However, I do not believe there is sufficient evidence of UFO originating in our solar system, since I would have thought more would be known about these things if they had a trackable return flightpath.
I believe that at least SOME of the UFO that have been recorded and reported on, have come from outside our solar system, and wether manned or not, originate in other star systems. If that is the case, then the technology driving them must be much more advanced than we can even comprehend. Think about it . We sent a space vehicle out to the edge of the heliosphere thirty some years ago, and its due to cross into the space which is OUTSIDE our solar system in five years. Of course its run into difficulties, but we need not concern ourselves with that at this point. What is crucial is that if I am correct, in saying that the most impressive, fastest, and most manouvrable of the UFO we see, actualy come from outside our solar system, that means that appart from all the awesome interatmospheric balletics we see them do, they are also capable of interstellar travel, and that is something we just havent got a clue how to achieve if we are honest. Its at least centuries away . Its CERTAINLY centuries away if we aim to do it in the same style as the UFO craft we have heard of so far. Sleek, quiet, fast beyond imagining. Understand some of these craft have been radar tracked at speeds in excess of that attained by rockets attempting to escape earth gravity on route to the moon and other extra terrestrial locales. And they do this IN atmosphere! I mean you are kidding yourself if you think for a second that we could do that , and just dont for some reason. Absolutely insane.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by TrueBrit
craft have been radar tracked at speeds in excess of that attained by rockets attempting to escape earth gravity on route to the moon and other extra terrestrial locales. And they do this IN atmosphere! I mean you are kidding yourself if you think for a second that we could do that , and just dont for some reason. Absolutely insane.

First, I'm not sure they're craft.
Second, I don't believe we can do that.
Third, if we could do that, it's not insane to believe it would be wise to keep it a secret. If someone launches a nuclear strike with conventional rocket technology there would be some time to react.

If a more advanced technology existed that could deliver a nuke in say 3 minutes instead of 30, wouldn't that be a good enough reason to keep that capability a secret, so the other guy doesn't get that capability and possibly put a nuke on your doorstep in 3 minutes? Like Iran or N Korea?

So no I don't think it's insane to want to keep that technology a secret if it exists. But I don't think it exists yet on Earth, though I'm sure there must be some pretty cool secret technology we don't know about yet.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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Building the structure of the craft would not be too difficult however building the propulsion system which is the hart of the craft requires specialist knowledge, which however is not common knowledge!

People have done this in the past and therefore it is within the ability of humans.

What I will say however is that you must completely remove all thoughts from your mind that propulsion is created by ejecting material/matter aft to generate thrust forward. No UFO uses this primitive concept although all our propulsion systems do.



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 04:25 PM
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Ignoring the hoaxes and the misidentified natural phenomena and man-made aircraft... I think the variety of UFO/USO's exhibit multiple ET technologies. Some may contain ET aliens, and others may be simply drone probes. Some may be only inter-planetary shuttlecraft; some may be inter-stellar; and some may be inter-dimensional vessels. The sources can be ET civilizations throughout our universe, and also from other parallel universes. So given the variety of them, their apparent properties can not be all added together. That would be like adding apples and oranges together.

As for building our own...
I would start with the physicist Burkhard Heim's 11-dimensional hyperspace physics to overcome gravity with a very strong and quickly rotating magnetic field. Which is a theory now 50 years old.
"Heim theory"
en.wikipedia.org...

Heim's theory has since been extended to propose journeys like: a trip to Mars in only 3 hours; and 11 light-years in only 80 days.
"Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip"
news.scotsman.com...

I don't know if Heim's rotating magnetic field takes the form of a 'vortex'. But if it does, I would suggest his concept is related to the speculated TR-3B black-ops triangle craft - which also produces a magnetic vortex field, by rotating a mercury plasma, rather than a superconductor magnet.
"Physics Analysis Of TR-3B"
www.rense.com...

And speaking of a 'rotating superconductor magnet', that what Ling Li was achieving levitation success with, when her work was stopped in NASA's prior advanced propulsion experiments some years ago.

Now with rotating magnetic vortexes overcoming gravity in mind... that leads me to the Gravity Control Technologies proposed entry into NASA's "X-Prise" contest of the year 2000. NASA rejected that entry. The GCT company proposed to overcome gravity with a craft that rotated a mono-polar atomic mass. I believe it created a magnetic vortex in the process.
"Gravity Control Technologies" website
www.gctspace.com...

Now, compare the torrid (doughnut) shaped 'mass accelerator ring' in the GCT craft image, with the description of the heart of the TR-3B: "A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter...".

I know debunkers say the military's TR-3B does not exist. But I believe that where there is smoke - there could be fire.

So, build a very strong magnetic vortex, and rotate it very, very quickly - and see if it levitates.


And I would consider adding several of these propellant-less devices for in-flight maneuvering control:
"The EmDrive"
emdrive.com...



[edit on 6/4/2010 by Larryman]



posted on Jun, 4 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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On the subject of rotating magnetic fields creating a secondary gravity field what is John searls device?

We have a set of stationary rings (plates) around which magnetised rollers rotate at high velocity. Each of those rollers carrying with it a magnetic field, the result being a magnetic field rotating at high velocity.







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