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Reports: Israeli ships attack aid flotilla

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posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by D.E.M.
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Yes, she was talking about things such as Cement, Water Treatment equipment, etc. Can you imagine being without Cement to rebuild after being bombed for decades?


Oh I know but the chap I was replying to said that there was no reason to think any contraband was on board, well she knew there was, so other would have known.

I'm certainly not saying I agree with the way Israel reacted although 'some' reaction was expected days ago.




Israel will try to block flotilla from reaching Gaza, but will let aid through, Barak Ravid, Haaretz, 27 May 2010



Harriet Sherwood, Israeli navy prepares for action as activists’ flotilla nears Gaza, Guardian Friday 28 May 2010 19.10 BST


jfjfp.com...




posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
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they knew there was a possibility they were putting innocent lives on the line but to them it was worth the sacrifice,


A Turkish owned and operated, NATO-backed vessel under the control of Hamas?

Yes!

Of course. Why can't we all see it from a Zionist's point of view?

Any sign of empathy by a Muslim state towards the plight of the people of Gaza is... An Act of WAR.


I am not Zionist.

But the Hamas leader did say it was a win win situation,

Yes?



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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But the Hamas leader did say it was a win win situation,


You seem to refer to Ismail Haniyeh as a credible, infallible source... rather than the two-bit Public Relations man for Hamas who will use exorbitant amounts of spin to make it seem Hamas has a hand in anything that negatively impacts Israel, to promote the influence & strength of a near-dead political movement for some cheap points.

Take this moron seriously if you wish, but then by that same token of logic, believe the IDF when they tell you the Peace Activists were "armed" with pistols & knives and funded by a Turkish Islamist Group.

[edit on 31/5/10 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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One it has always been Jewish Israel and never ever belonged to the Arabs so they have no right to be there in the first place. Its a fact that all pallys hold other Arab national passports unless they are young and born in Israel.


Really the Roman Province of Judea has always belonged to Israel? I guess those poor Canaanites must have been confused when the Hebrew made their mass exodus from Egypt and flooded into the area that they populated only for a few hundred years before being driven out by the Romans and sent into Diaspora.

Meanwhile all this on a planet that dates back hundreds of millions of years, and human beings perhaps hundreds of thousands if not millions, but a religion that at best has been around for 6,000 years has always owned the land, that they have only been settled on there for two brief occasions?

History is history friend, and political and religious propaganda is political and religious propaganda.




Why are there ten times the amount of ancient Jewish and Christian sites in Israel than Arab Islamic in Israel? Archeology proves without a Shadow of a doubt that the land belongs to the Jews so get over it. Just because the Arabs had conquered them and stole it before does not make it theirs. Thats the whole reason why Israel has taken back some of their land.


Actually I would say the El Asqua Mosque sitting on top of the ruins of the first and second Hebrew Temple in pristine condition kind of throws that argument out of the window. Oh and the one above too as far as the Hebrews ‘always’ owning Jerusalem.

Further the most recent archeological find in Jerusalem dating back to Christ’s time is neither Christian, Hebrew or Islamic but pagan, so even in the mythical heyday of classic Jerusalem just how Jewish it really was, is a matter of genuine speculation.





If it were up to me Israel would take back the Sinai and all of Israel. Force the Arabs back home were they belong. Don't even try to tell me that they don't have enough land, The surrounding Arab nations don't want them back, Why? Because they are TERRORIST, Born and raised to be just that by the Arab nations like Iran, Syria and formerly Iraq and Jordan.


Yes it is clear you are someone who seems to support murder and theft.

The prisons of the world are full of such people, and prisons take on a lot more forms than just those with metal and iron bars friend.

The first documented cases of Terrorism inside the Judean Province were Hebrew ones and that was in Roman times. In modern times the first documented cases of Terrorism inside of Judea were Zionists ones, so your terrorism agrument seems to only select certain terrorists and not all of them.

In fact your argument itself is a form of terrorism, in telling people that were born in a place that they should and will be driven out by any means possible including violence.




The Jews want and need their homeland back. The Arabs have all the land they could ever need so why do they fight for Israel? Because they are the spawn of Hitler. EVIL!!!! Wake up Bro the bible tells us all your on the wrong side of this most important issue.


Only a small percentage of the World Wide Hebrew Population has any desire to live in Israel, in fact most of them don't want to, and most of them don't want to, because their own religion tells them that Israel can only be made a nation again by the Messiah who will lead them there at that time.

So no the Jews neither want nor need their homeland back.

The numbers speak for themselves, the vast majority of Jews prefer to live in Diaspora instead of a Zionist police state.



[edit on 31/5/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:16 PM
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This may be similar to a situation where a SWAT team breaks into a home without a warrant where they have no legal jurisdiction and the family (expecting and prepared for their arrival) resists with sticks and clubs and the SWAT team open fires killing some of the family members. The SWAT team was illegally trespassing on private property (like they always do) and the occupants resisted. In this case, Israel illegally trespassed by boarding a boat in international waters and killed some of those on board who resisted.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:17 PM
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Israel should be placed on the "axis of evil" list and the USA should take action!

I would re-enlist to see this combat. I am so tired of the USA ' s support of Israel no holes barred in congress. Let Israel sink in its abominable waste of human life. Turn off the patriot missile batteries and let them fend for themselves and join against them.. Screw Revelations it is nothing more than a letter of Roman times. GET :IT?



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher
* * * pallys * * * You are such a joke. * * *


"pallys"? You sure know how to show your colors, pal. Is "pallys" a condescending epthet like the "raghead" epithet used by coalition forces to describe Iraqis and Afghanis so that the soldiers feel comfortable about viewing them as less than human?

Are you 13 years old?

Sorry, pal, but you're the joke and everyone here instantly sees your transparent BS.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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Can this be confirmed? If so, yikes



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Sky watcher
The Jews want and need their homeland back. The Arabs have all the land they could ever need so why do they fight for Israel? Because they are the spawn of Hitler. EVIL!!!! Wake up Bro the bible tells us all your on the wrong side of this most important issue.


Right, anyone who does not support Israel is an evil Nazi. You are also an anti-Semite and hate Jews and probably rape babies. You are also a holocaust denier and probably worship a false God.

I mean come on people, wake up! Its all in the Bible (The Jewish one). Don't use your brain, that is what Satan wants you to do. Just read the Jewish Bible and stop asking questions. Once all the Jew-hating anti-Zionist goats have been rounded up and killed or put into concentration camps then Zionism will rule the planet and it will be a Jewtopia. God and Jesus hate Muslims and will come back once we've dealt with the Muslim infestation on the planet. Then everyone will be happy, except those dirty Arabs and Christian animals, they will all be dead or in zoos. By the way, anyone who is not a Zionist is also not a human being; they are just animals because they do not possess the advanced thinking capabilities of a Zionist.

Those so-called "relief activists" deserved to be shot and killed. They were trying to bring relief to the suffering of the Palestinian people. Israel derives great joy in the suffering of our pet Muslims in their concentration camps (Palestine). Any relief to Palestine (or our supply of illegal drugs) is a direct threat to the well-being of all Israelis. We must be allowed to express our hatred and fear by torturing the Palestinians or we will turn it upon ourselves and realize how despicable we are as human beings.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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This has NOTHING to do with Torah and everything to do with twitchyness... I have lived there and know....

After 60 twitchy years what do you expect?? Surrounded by enemies... But they have crossed the line today.. I am a former Israeli soldier and I am mad.... You do NOT kill aid workers... You do NOT stop aid reaching those who need it... You do NOT let hundreds of kids die...

Bibi does... No more... Israelis wont take it....

Israel has had enough of its own government...

Do not let this incident turn you against Jews.. What they have done is NOT Jewish... Most are incredulous.... We will NOT let this just go away in time... We are a shining light or not.... We will never be a darkness.....

God bless the REAL Israel.... THAT... You will see soon....



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by deccal
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Are they still on the ship? How are their conditions? Do you know anything?


All the BBC report said,was that the ship had arrived at Ashdod,the israeli port,and that the occupants would be jailed in Israel if they had been violent,and the rest deported.

If you can get BBC news via your internet,it will probably be repeated duing the next hours.

Sorry I cannot help you with any more details.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:21 PM
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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has called an emergency meeting with his generals to counter Israel.

ivarfjeld.wordpress.com...

ibnlive.in.com...

So Turkey says its Navy will escort the other two ships in, that should prove to be interesting... You think Hezzbollah/Hamas would have launched endless rockets into Israel right now while they have sympathy.





# 21:16
Hundreds of protesters clash with police near Israeli Embassy in Paris (AP)
# 21:08
Protesters outside Netanyahu's house: Democracy isn’t built on bodies of protesters (Haaretz)
# 20:24
Around 150 protesters demonstrate in Haifa against killing of Gaza flotilla activists (Haaretz)
# 20:19
Qassam rocket strikes western Negev (Haaretz)
# 20:15
John Kerry: Gaza incident underscores necessity of resolving Israeli-Palestinian conflict (Haaretz)
# 20:10
Some 150 Israelis protesting outside Turkish embassy in Tel Aviv (Haaretz)
# 20:06
Greek police fire teargas at anti-Israel protesters (Reuters)
# 20:02
IAEA: Iran must respond to our inquiries into nuclear program as soon as possible (Reuters)
# 19:47
El Al and Turkish airline Atlas Jet cut partnership (Haaretz)
# 19:34
MK Abargiyah: Israel's current government most extremist in history (Haaretz)
# 19:19
Thousands of Iraqis protest Gaza aid ship deaths (Reuters)
# 19:18
Sweden summons Israel ambassador over Gaza flotilla deaths (Reuters)
# 18:58
Netanyahu: Israel will deliver all humanitarian aid from flotilla to Gaza civilians (Haaretz)
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Turkish PM: Gaza flotilla raid is Israeli state terrorism (Haaretz)

[edit on 31-5-2010 by CanadianDream420]



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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I was a born again Christian. In heart a seeker of truth. Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. I am free. I have, in front of friends and family, denounced Christianity.

I denounce because it is not the "truth" it is in fact humanity's main restrainer against the "truth".

Truth = everything ...from current events, archeological digs and their supporting "mythology", to Jesus having children..which would make the christian church's st. Peter power invalid. Surely if anyone inherits the King of David power it is inline with the rules and regulations involved in the Hebrew old testement.
Now in Isreal are usurpers / ungodly ...as defined by the Hebrew religion.
USA be rid of them and fight their atrocities.
If we just follow our heart we may be able to rid the world of evil.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:26 PM
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Crazy Muslims? Were the members of the EU "crazy Muslims?'

If they were paintball guns (
), how did at least 10 people die?

[edit on 31-5-2010 by InvisibleAlbatross]



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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There is a flag waving on the side of the ship that has red and white stripes like the USA flag, but in the blue section has a white crescent and some other marking. Does anyone know what that flag is? Maybe a Malaysian flag?



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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I don't have a clue, I am no expert on the subject, but it seems to me both sides antagonize one another.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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Have you got any better sources than an extrovertedly right-wing, pro-Israel blog and an Indian Business Journal?

All I've seen is Erdogan referring to the attack as "State sponsored Terrorism": www.businessweek.com...



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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link~news.bbc.co.uk...


bbc update.

Regards to all



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
So Turkey says its Navy will escort the other two ships in, that should prove to be interesting...


Bloody hell mate,that ain't good.

As the US are a sworn ally of both Israel and Turkey,how will they react to the Turks doing this?

Turkey are actually causing more problems for Israel at the moment than the entire UN has in decades.

This could get more horrible than it has been so far if thats possible.

You watch what Israel will do in terms of damage control-I predict that by tomorrow,They will have found crates of automatic weapons,RPGs etc on the flotilla boats they have siezed.

These will be displayed to the world,even though all the boats had gone through full on customs checks before they set of on their voyage,and were weapons free.



posted on May, 31 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
You think Hezzbollah/Hamas would have launched endless rockets into Israel right now while they have sympathy.



Exactly. But they will not spoil the moment as this is a planned set up to make Israel look bad.





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