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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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Okay well i am not anti-american, I am however anti-stupid,arrogant,greedy,warmongering leaders, and I dont discriminate by nationality.

Saying as you went to all that trouble to repeatedly copy and paste quotes from wiki, i thought I should share with you something I found just a few minutes ago via google, albeit is a few years old I still think you will find it relevant and you may even find it insightful if you read it all, it has some very valid points as to why so many Europeans have a dislike of America, and alot of these points are made by Americans themselves.

www.vexen.co.uk...




posted on May, 30 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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I hope when you say "You Euroeans" that you mean manland Europe. I must say if your not being sarcastic then you have furfilled you typical American stereotype.

And if you want to go into how better America is don't forget all white Americans originate from Europe.

But hey there only countrys. Were all bigger than that aren't we?



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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There was a British Prime Minister who said about aid to Africa.

There will come a time when the people of Africa will stop doing things for themselves and will just wait for the hand out.

Maybe the countries screaming USA where are you, is a symptom similar to that!?

And if anyone here even dares to quote the mantra about the second world war. I WILL get historian terminator on you!!



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Wow... where to start?

1. While 30,000 children died today because of malnutrition, the rest of the world wonders why Americans are overweight and/or obese.

2. While the rest of the world searches for peace, American leaders spend 50% of the world total on weapons and warfare. The rest of the world wonders how much world conflict would cease if Americans stayed home instead of being the neighborhood "enforcer". Check out www.informationclearinghouse.info for a good view of what your own media isn't reporting to you. Try to count up the innocent civilians that America is killing around the world in its "war on terror".

3. You have a murder rate 10x that of your northern neighbor, Canada, yet are blind to the fact that it's the love of guns and violence that is feeding this self-destruction... the rest of the world sees that very clearly. While you're thinking about that... survey the TV guide and see how much of any evening's entertatinment centres around themes of violence... it pervades what passes for entertainment in your country.

4. Read "Empire of Illusion" by Chris Hedges to see how pervasive the porn industry has become, and how it has led to a generation of adult males who have merged sexuality and violence in their minds... which explains why such little concern over the prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib.

5. The rest of the world wonders why America has so little regard for RULES, except when other people break them. Try getting your leaders to obey the rules of law on international war, treatment of prisoners. Get your Congress and Senate to pass a "Bill of Rights for Foreigners" or at least obey a few of the conventions of international law.

6. check out www.thirdworldtraveler.com... to see how the rest of the world sees American imperislism and American world "leadership".

7. Build a healthcare system that doesn't make it profitable for companies to keep people sick instead of helping them get better.

8. Check out the news archives at worldreports.org to see how the rest of the world views your political leaders: self-serving thieves, running around the world to line their own pockets.

9. Jesus said "turn the other cheek" and "pray for your enemies". Americans say "God Bless the USA", while they hunt down their enemies, their enemy's families, their enemy's cities, countries, friends, etc.

10. The rest of the world looks at the events of 9/11 and wonders how NOBODY who failed to protect American lives on that day was punished or reprimanded or fired for failing to do their job; in fact, most of them were rewarded and promoted.

Hope that helps!



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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And people here on ATS claim that Americans have a superior attitude towards others? Your whole post reeks of it.



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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The main reason Europeans bash the USA is because of their paranoia that everyone hates them and the lists their citizens produce claiming to have invented everything. Such as:

- Electricity (You can't invent it but was discovered by an English man - William Gilbert)

- Electric light (Humphry Davy - English)

- The automobile (Karl Benz - German)

- Internet (Tim Berners-Lee - English)

- Atomic bomb (Leo Szilard - Hungarian)

The US may have some bad points but they are outweighed by the good. The same goes for most countries. Britain is in many ways closer to the US than mainland Europe so please bear that in mind when you give your next rant.

PS You forgot to mention you saved 'Europes' butt in the war.


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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:19 PM
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usa, usa, usa, usa!!!!! we really are the greatest and my son will carry the torch!!!



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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We will see come the 12th June when the USA gets and old world beating by the English!!!

I bet to that you say "Whaaa???" while the rest of the ENTIRE world knows what I am talking about!! hehehe



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by tauempire
 


Now you know why we hate your guts.


Really I don't know what else it could be.


Sinter Klaas please don't judge all of us by the ignorance of the majority, and yes it is the vast majority that think the same way about our power and influence.

My father is WAY worse than him. He says if our president doesn't like another leader we should kill him and invade his country. I ask him why we should invade a sovereign nation that never harmed us and all he says is because we can. It really makes me angry.

I think we need to mind our own damn business and all countries be treating the same with no exceptions. Sometimes I just want to leave my own country to get away from the ignorance, intolerance and bloated ego.


what? just like me? you jest....im just stating no matter how we act or what we do europe will hate us.

Even when we were not getting into other people business they hated us...just look into what i posted!



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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That's part of the problem. Our interference has led to a dependency upon us by undeveloped nations. You don't hear of France screaming for America to help them when they have a problem.

It's not our problem when their is genocide or war, it's not us so why should we get involved other than diplomatically? If we want to be so involved in world affairs maybe we should act as a force for good, try becoming a mediator for world problems.

Such as the problems between Colombia and Venezuela, which we caused.
Between Israel and Palestine, which we caused.
Between North Korea and South Korea.
Between South Sudan and North Sudan.

But we are too hell bent on doing stupid things by our CIA and other lunatics which cause problems which we are then forced to clean up.


We did not cause the problem between israel and palestine....go look that up



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by dsnnook
Wow... where to start?

1. While 30,000 children died today because of malnutrition, the rest of the world wonders why Americans are overweight and/or obese.

2. While the rest of the world searches for peace, American leaders spend 50% of the world total on weapons and warfare. The rest of the world wonders how much world conflict would cease if Americans stayed home instead of being the neighborhood "enforcer". Check out www.informationclearinghouse.info for a good view of what your own media isn't reporting to you. Try to count up the innocent civilians that America is killing around the world in its "war on terror".

3. You have a murder rate 10x that of your northern neighbor, Canada, yet are blind to the fact that it's the love of guns and violence that is feeding this self-destruction... the rest of the world sees that very clearly. While you're thinking about that... survey the TV guide and see how much of any evening's entertatinment centres around themes of violence... it pervades what passes for entertainment in your country.

4. Read "Empire of Illusion" by Chris Hedges to see how pervasive the porn industry has become, and how it has led to a generation of adult males who have merged sexuality and violence in their minds... which explains why such little concern over the prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib.

5. The rest of the world wonders why America has so little regard for RULES, except when other people break them. Try getting your leaders to obey the rules of law on international war, treatment of prisoners. Get your Congress and Senate to pass a "Bill of Rights for Foreigners" or at least obey a few of the conventions of international law.

6. check out www.thirdworldtraveler.com... to see how the rest of the world sees American imperislism and American world "leadership".

7. Build a healthcare system that doesn't make it profitable for companies to keep people sick instead of helping them get better.

8. Check out the news archives at worldreports.org to see how the rest of the world views your political leaders: self-serving thieves, running around the world to line their own pockets.

9. Jesus said "turn the other cheek" and "pray for your enemies". Americans say "God Bless the USA", while they hunt down their enemies, their enemy's families, their enemy's cities, countries, friends, etc.

10. The rest of the world looks at the events of 9/11 and wonders how NOBODY who failed to protect American lives on that day was punished or reprimanded or fired for failing to do their job; in fact, most of them were rewarded and promoted.

Hope that helps!


where to start indeed.

1. We doing what we can. we supply some countries 70% of the food of their countries. what are you europeans doing about it? how much money did you give haiti? a few million? we gave HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.YOU ARE DOING NOTHING. except whine about americans and america....like you have been doing since 1776.

2.thats fine....the soviet union or nazis would be ruling you all in europe...a communist/facist holyland. i dont support us spending that much....but guess what...thats only 4% of our gdp...get over it. its not our fault that if your country spent that much you would go broke.

3.lol where to start on this one? the united kingdom has a higher gun crime rate then the usa...and it does not even allow guns in civilian hands. canada has its fair share of crime as well. guns have nothing to do with this...you silly european lol. 30%...that is all? and canada has maybe 10% of the population of america? so 20 million people who have strict gun laws only have a 30% difference of a country with 320 million people?


4. ahahahah dear god...and its americas fault with porn???

5. what rules are we breaking exactly? im waiting


6. there not biased at all


7. we tried that......oh and the UK and europes system is doing great...not. thousands have died in britain because of the wait for care. and its expensive. hell britains system is almost broke. and many europeans are trying to adopt our system.

8.of course they see our leaders like that....they hate america and americans....


9.oh yeah....we are the only ones who have wars....oh yeah!


10.you got us there!

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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by LightFantastic
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The main reason Europeans bash the USA is because of their paranoia that everyone hates them and the lists their citizens produce claiming to have invented everything. Such as:

- Electricity (You can't invent it but was discovered by an English man - William Gilbert)Benjamin Franklin

- Electric light (Humphry Davy - English)thomas edison

- The automobile (Karl Benz - German)Henry ford

- Internet (Tim Berners-Lee - English)you MIGHT be right on that one

- Atomic bomb (Leo Szilard - Hungarian)are you high?

The US may have some bad points but they are outweighed by the good. The same goes for most countries. Britain is in many ways closer to the US than mainland Europe so please bear that in mind when you give your next rant.

PS You forgot to mention you saved 'Europes' butt in the war.


[edit on 30/5/2010 by LightFantastic]



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:59 PM
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We are 99% responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian problem, the other 1% is Israel.


We supply them with every weapon they need, all the financial assistance they want and all the diplomatic security possible. We have created a monster and we are still breastfeeding it.



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:01 PM
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Might not have 'caused' it I will give you that. as that has been going on LONG before the British were there, or the crusaders, in fact blame it on the Israelites.

But anyway, in recent era, it has been the US Military Industrial Complex that has fanned the flames.

Who arms Israel, and bankrolls the Mujaheddin?



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:03 PM
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Holy SNIP! I have never saw so much ignorance in one place since I went to a Tea Party rally!



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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1, By Jan 18 EU aid topped 400 Million Euros over 1/2 billion Dollars US Donation was $433 million!! Hmmmm!

2, Do you really want to get into that one.

3, Source please - Washington DC has the same Crime rate as Mexico City, Bogota, and Rio.

4, I like porn so cool!

5, Try reading the Geneva Convention of which you are a signatory.

6, probably right

7, OK But why sooo expensive. when I can in Mexico go private and pay very little. So why is it if I want the USA on my insurance my premium jumps 300 %. And don;t reply because Mexican doctors are no good. I am talking pharmaceuticals too. I can see a doc whenever I like, and a specialist. and It won't cost me my arms and legs. Most of whom are trained in the USA.

8,9 and 10 - I stopped caring after number 2

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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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We are 99% responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian problem, the other 1% is Israel.


We supply them with every weapon they need, all the financial assistance they want and all the diplomatic security possible. We have created a monster and we are still breastfeeding it.


They are our allies...how are they a monster anti-semitism anyone?

Listin we even proposed sharing the land of where israel is....they rejected it. and then 4 arab nations ganged up on israel and they kicked butt. they even tried offering land a few years later...nope.

dont get it twisted.



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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Holy SNIP! I have never saw so much ignorance in one place since I went to a Tea Party rally!


what post? all i have been trying to point out is this.

Dont get your knickers in a twist because europe hates us....they always have. No matter what we do or say they will hate us.

They have hated us since this country was founded.

What is wrong with the tea party? is it because they are conservative and you are liberal?

you sound like a liberal


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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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OK so what is this about?

Do you really want to get to the heart of the matter, or are you just looking for solace in you self deprecation and loathing, and sweeping generalisations??

When will you realize that you ARE NOT all out on your own and that people do like the USA. It is just that the rest of the world (and I feel confident talking for the rest of the world on this one) that we feel that the USA has not been giving due respect to LONG standing friends of recent. and because of this self depreciation, we get a little tired of the hurt sulky child attitude.

But this is the point.

Because of your size, and strength can you not see how the rest of the world gets a little nervous when you start feeling isolated and wounded and sulky.

A little like a African Boy Soldier with an freakin AK47. you really never know whats going to happen, and would rather stay away

There are countries bigger in size and industry than the USA, but those are more mature. It s the unpredictability.

This is why Europe was so in favour of Obama. He was seen as a rational mind to stop the war mongering. Oh Well how long did that last.

A chance to live in peace and safety is all we ask. We had our wars, and now we just want to get on with it. But it hard with the Polices of the US constantly messing things up.

And you lot subjected the world to McDonalds. I mean how EVIL is that! hehehehe



posted on May, 30 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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Stereotyping? I thought you hated that? Isn't that what your whole thread was about? How Europe is stereotyping Americans and they hate America?



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