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reply posted on 30-5-2010 @ 03:03 PM by Majestyka
those gold buyer guys are just a modern version of the great gold siezure of the 1930s

Gold Seizure

i also agree that you should keep your gold....old, broken, whatever....i find those commercials funny when they say "unwanted gold"

edit to add:

this is also a good read

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reply posted on 30-5-2010 @ 03:19 PM by JakiusFogg
The business is very simple. people hear that price of gold is high, and these sharks tell them they can get a good money price now for their unwanted jewellry

here is the example

someone sends 5oz of 18 Ct Gold rings , chains, earrings etc

the value of gold is as of today, spot rate around $1250 per oz

5oz = 141.75g x $30.1446 (scrap rate) = $4272.98 - 25% = $3204.73 (for price per purity) minus 75% standard porn (I mean PORN not Pawn as it is obscene) broking rate = $801

So the person gets $800, now who could use $800?????? just for some old crap you don't wear.

OK. there's more. the porn broker doing this usually has a deal with a refining place, of they do it them selves.

5oz of 18 Ct is 75% pure.

so that is around 106g of PURE .999 gold. but OK lets say some if lost in the refining process average 5 % loss rate. That is still 99.225g of Pure Gold.

That is still 3 1/2 onces of pure .999 gold in rough cast bars. rounds whatever

Current resale price is around spot +15% ($1370) prices I saw today on the likes of Kitco and Goldline.

This equals resale price $4795. and people WILL and DO Pay it

But lets be more accurate, processing costs money too. So lets say that 50% of the total resale price goes on refining. No way is it going to be this high, but this is for example.

= $2397.50 remaining
minus the outlay lost of $800
= $1597.5 and easily more PURE SOLID GOLD PROFIT.

Just from 1 person sending in 5 oz of unwanted crap, they get a happy 800 dollars, although I suspect it would be MUCH less. as I am being honest.

And the company makes over 1500 dollars on 3!!, on 3.5 ounces of gold.

How times this by a factor of 10,000's if not 100,000's of people doing this WORLDWIDE to these companies!!

you get the drift!!, this is NOT buy low sell high. as that does not even matter.

This is just talking advantage of people NEED and GREED to for them to make a quick buck, and the copanies to make even more.

As you say, gold holds it value, people know that, they need money, and now there is a real market and need. On the back end there is LOTs of people buying the result in bars, coins etc etc etc. because it holds its value.

Lets just say that this is the real wealth re-distribution.






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reply posted on 30-5-2010 @ 03:39 PM by JakiusFogg
reply to post by boondock-saint



Cheers dude, But it is AMAZING just how simple this is!

it really is pawn broking in a niche market, but just going that one step further!!

Instead of waiting to resale the items at 50% price, just refine and sell at above spot for PURE gold, which everyone likes!

The alternate for us, is to scour the stores that haven't caught on

the other day I found a 1921 Peace silver dollar in a little place in a market in Mexico, did the test, it was real, and paid $MN 300 for it. about $25

Checked in on PCGS and it is worth at last $150!!!

BONUS!!

BTW anyone know who to refine gold!?????


reply posted on 30-5-2010 @ 03:51 PM by JakiusFogg
reply to post by sinthia



You are right there sinthia, but now just gold. silver, platinum and other metals. its all used in the chips and circuitry.

But just on you suspicion. Well its because they now have leverage. you bought a ring 10 years ago, for around 50 pounds, and today someone says, WOW thats gold!! thats is do you know that gold is worth 1250 dollars an oz nowadays!!. You ring could be worth a fortune to you. you send it and they say they will give you 70 pounds for it. Well you only paid 50, and things do down in value the older they are right?? so this is GREAT!! I could by those shoes now!,, or pay my phone bill. OK SOLD - simple, its marketing on greed and insecurity

I have heard that there is a company in India or somewhere, that offers free of charge phone recycling.

they collect mobiles in a box somewhere and have refined a process where they can extract the metals. and resell. thus there is NO outlay apart fro the setup and running costs. as people give them the old phones for FREE, under the GREEN banner. "i RECYCLED my old phone, aren;t I good!

In the meantime Mr gold Singh is laughing all the way to the bank!

As for the Ore part, I hear that most gold ore is mixes with a crap load of other metals, so out of a 2 oz nugget, maybe you will be 1 oz .999 gold, some silver, nickel, lead etc etc, where as the phones in industrial use use already refined gold.

Even more crazily, I saw a report, about a scientist in Germany of may the UK, can;t remember, that who was buying the street dust from council street cleaning machines.

Why???

Simple, car catalytic converters contains gold and platinum. and is spewed out in the dust that it creates.

They found a process to refine, where the recovery rate of pure gold and platiunum was HIGHER than that of the recovery rate of gold ore!!!!

Everyone is doing it, why? becuase they know that the people like their fiat currency, but the real value always has been and always will be in precious metal.


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reply posted on 30-5-2010 @ 04:13 PM by JakiusFogg
reply to post by Lynzer



Well look at it this way.
1% of the people control 99% of the wealth.

If they are hoarding to stop barter... good luck

What if the 99% of people decided to barter in produce, and all they have is gold to barter with

This is the other side of the gold coin, in the post apocalyptic scenario. I guess they could barter with each other, a sort of gold trading cards. but they would soon starve

In the mean time, in todays word. it is just a good mechanism to protect what you have against inflation, or you currency devaluing. As gold will always buy the same, as it did 70 years ago, as it does today!
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