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Originally posted by sandwiches
I watched Nassim's presentation at the Rogue Theater.
If you doubt his credentials just look at his web site. Nassim FTW
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Stewart Swerdlow comments in his Q&A about Niburu and Neat. . .
Niburu
Posted: November, 28, 2008
Dear Stewart and Janet:
I viewed one of your recent lectures on DVD and you stated that Nibiru was destroyed. Can you tell me how it was destroyed, who destroyed it, and why? Does that mean the Annunaki who lived on Nibiru have been destroyed forever? I always thought that the Annunaki on Nibiru were going to return to Earth in 2012.
Thank you.
Beverly
Stewart's Reply: OK-- I have been writing about this for 5 years now. Niburu was destroyed in April 2003, 1 month after the US invaded Iraq to gain control of the stargates under Baghdad.
The Illuminati used particle beam accelerator weapons in pulse form to blow it up as it neared Jupiter.
Pieces of the planet are still flying into the Sun--watch NASA Suncam, and hitting the Earth as meteors.
The whole 2012 scenario is programming. Please read my books.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Searching for physicists' comments about Haramein's work, I came across an article on the bibliotecapleyades.net website dated May 29, 2009 by Michael Salla, Ph.D. entitled "World Renowned Physicist Challenged over Free Energy Machines."
The world renowned physicist is Dr Michio Kaku and the challenger is Dr Robert Koontz.
What really fascinated Bill was AlienScientist's review of Nassim Haramein's breakthrough paper, "The Schwarzschild Proton."
Jan 02, 2010 at 10:00AM
Alien Scientist
Bill's special guest this week is the AlienScientist.
The AlienScientist is a man named Jeremy (approx 30) He prefers to have his last name/identity withheld due to the sensitive nature of his work and how that might affect his career goals as a young aspiring scientist and student of Physics. About 3-4 years ago Jeremy read "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper and became interested in the UFO/Alien phenomenon for scientific purposes. This lead him into researching other conspiracies, such as 9/11. After reviewing much of the available information found online and finding a lack of strong scientific arguments and evidence, he decided to start making and posting his own videos in an attempt to battle the disinformation and counter-intelligence out there using the only proven method for finding the real truth: The Scientific Method. . . .
AlienScientist — August 25, 2009 — Special Thanks to Nassim Haramein!
TheResonanceProject.org
A copy of the paper can be found here:
www.theresonanceproject.org...
Theoretical Physicist comes up with a similar conclusion to Haramein's work:
newsinfo.iu.edu...
An explanation of the Vacuum Density and some application such as the Casimir Effect:
www.soulsofdistortion.nl...
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Theoretical Physicist comes up with a similar conclusion to Haramein's work
Originally posted by sandwiches
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Well, it's good to remain skeptical. I haven't been given a reason to doubt his work or papers yet, though.
Perhaps I will do some more investigation based on the scientific challenges you make.
There's another interesting thread over here.
Keep askin' questions
When protons arrive in the LHC they are traveling at 0.999997828 times the speed of light. Each proton goes around the 27km ring over 11 000 times a second.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Searching for physicists' comments about Haramein's work, I came across an article on the bibliotecapleyades.net website dated May 29, 2009 by Michael Salla, Ph.D. entitled "World Renowned Physicist Challenged over Free Energy Machines."
This creates what is called a “torsion field” where energy is generated from the rotating objects. According to Dr Elizabeth Rauscher and Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project, torsion fields power all known rotating objects in the universe from suns and galaxies, to atoms.
Originally posted by sandwiches
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Well, it's good to remain skeptical. I haven't been given a reason to doubt his work or papers yet, though.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Is it this Dr.Salla?
en.wikipedia.org...
He has PhD degree in Government from the University of Queensland, and is a big fan of UFOs in his spare time.
I can be a master of Japanese calligraphy, but it hardly gives me ANY qualification to speak on topics in physics.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
The world renowned physicist is Dr Michio Kaku and the challenger is Dr Robert Koontz. The article states:
. . . Dr Robert Koontz, a nuclear physicist who has worked in various government projects and held Top Secret classification, pointed out the fallacies in Dr Kaku’s thinking. Dr Kaku, according to Dr Koontz, needs to reconsider the feasibility of non-conventional energy devices. Otherwise he may suffer the same fate as early scientific critics of the Wright Brothers - critics dismissed the idea of heavier-than-air flying machines as impossible.
Haramein's name comes up in the article here:
. . . Another way for an unconventional or “free energy” device to work is for it to use rotating electromagnetic fields using magnets, plasma, or other electrical conductors.
This creates what is called a “torsion field” where energy is generated from the rotating objects. According to Dr Elizabeth Rauscher and Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project, torsion fields power all known rotating objects in the universe from suns and galaxies, to atoms.
I'm wondering whether resistance to Haramein's work by mainstream physicists has anything to do with the establishment's resistance to free energy.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
As to the Koontz, I didn't find anything of substance in his allegations.
Dr. Kaku: You appear to believe that the universe has 11 dimensions, many of which are supposed to be hidden. Why would that be true while creation of energy using negative mass electrons or using gauge transformations would be impossible? Could you be wrong, sir? Undoubtedly you think you are not wrong, but could you be wrong, sir?
You might say to me that negative mass electrons have never been seen. But those many dimensions you believe in have never been seen either. And is it not true that we physicists for decades have used negative mass electrons in our theories in order to reach agreement with experiment?
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by buddhasystem
As to the Koontz, I didn't find anything of substance in his allegations.
A quote from Dr Koontz in the article:
Dr. Kaku: You appear to believe that the universe has 11 dimensions,
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
However, the rest of that quote is a logical fallacy of an argument. I can't point to someone else's unproven hypothesis as evidence that my unproven hypothesis should be accepted. That sounds like the argument Koontz is making and it's not a valid argument.
Energy flow from unseen dimensions?
Submitted by Red Collie on Tue, 12/02/2008 - 22:50.
Two non-mainstream physicists, Richard Hoagland and Nassim Haramein, have postulated that energy is still flowing into our universe from other dimensions: not just 15 billion years ago and all at once, as for a hypothetical Big Bang, but still ongoing today!
I did not take much notice of their ideas, until distinct symbols from their theories were shown in English crop pictures at Secklendorf, Germany on June 23, 2008, or at Oliver's Castle on August 16, 2008: see www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/time2007s.html
Then on August 17, 2008, about twenty dancing "balls of light" were videotaped by Andy Fowlds over another crop picture at Westwoods: see www.medwaycropcircle.co.uk/westwood2008bols.htm
Mainsteam academic scientists on Earth have not yet taken such well-documented but anomalous data in account, when formulating ever more complex views about dark matter or the non-existence of extra-terrestrials.
Those new experimental data, as well as novel physical theories promoted by Hoagland or Haramein, would seem to indicate that the current consensus view among modern academics might be wrong.
By all means, other people should discuss this important subject further, but not before studying at the two informative links provided above, and evaluating those new concepts with an open mind.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
I have Nassim's DVD Crossing the Event Horizon: Rise to the Equation and enjoyed it tremendously. I was reading David Icke's new book Human Race Get off Your Knees this morning, and thinking about the spiritual transformation that David talks about in an early chapter of this book, I remembered that Nassim mentions in his talks that someone taught him how to meditate and that he has had experiences with meditation that have influenced his work. That made me go online to see whether he is sharing anything about meditation these days.
Matt Chambers is a meditation instructor and founder of Community Meditation and recently graduated from the Nassim Haramein Delegate Program as a Certified Resonance Project Delegate.
“The way into the vacuum… is to go inwards towards the singularity, to the point of stillness where all spins cancel out… The tendency is to try to focus outside yourself, but really what is necessary is to use techniques of meditation, or contemplation, or so on to actually go inside yourself towards the infinitely small… to actually go towards singularity, towards the infinite potential inside each one of your atoms… to the information network, and direct it in a way that will fulfill [y]our deepest desires [this] becomes very, very powerful. If we take the time every morning to connect with the stillness than at least we know how to get back to it. So if we experience the spin throughout the day we can [recognize when] we are spinning and return to that point of singularity, stillness… If we don’t know where that center is, there is no gauge for us to know how far we are in the spin. To get that clarity, I think that the best tool is to spend a few minutes every day going inwards… deeper and deeper into singularity.”
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
I actually thought about asking the mods to move this thread out of the science forum, I was going to propose metaphysics, but I never sent them the request. And somehow it got moved to skunk works even without my request to move it.
After that post bringing crop circle energy and hoagland into it, I would have sent a request to move it if it hadn't already been moved.
But it's a great topic for skunk works, no proof of anything is needed here! So I can claim I sensed 6 trans-dimensional aliens from a parallel universe make the crop circle here and I don't have to prove it. I didn't, really, but any claim I can fabricate is just as valid as any claim Hoagland can fabricate.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
But let's continue the discussion from all angles. I'm interested in the science and the metaphysics.
I have considered Hoagland to be a fringe pseudoscientist, not really worth debunking. Sometimes, claims are so silly that they aren't worth bothering. But things have changed recently. Hoagland has been given lots of airtime on the late-night "Coast to Coast AM" radio show, which has millions of listeners.
These claims, like most conspiracy claims, are silly, internally inconsistent, and pretty easy to show wrong. So you might think no one pays any attention to him, right?
If only. He is actually rather notorious in the pseudoscience community.
I've let this fester long enough. This kind of pseudoscience is like a virus. At low levels, it's no big deal, but when it reaches a certain threshold it becomes sickening. I don't think Hoagland has reached the level of, say, the Moon Hoax, but he might someday if ignored. I run a risk here of actually giving him the press he clearly wants so desperately, but it's also a risk to ignore his nonsense, again like the Moon Hoax.
And let me be very clear here: Hoagland's claims are insulting. I really don't like it when the devotion and hard work of scientists is unfairly impugned. These scientists are people who are doing what they do because they love it. I get irritated when the subject I love -- astronomy -- is abused, and Hoagland is indeed treating it in an ugly manner. He has the right to say such things (up until it becomes fraud), but I also have the right, and the necessity, to show where he's wrong.
Amazingly, to me, he also debunked the Hoax, saying the Apollo landings were real! In fact, his debunking is quite excellent and thorough, and, I'll point out, even corrected a mistake I had on my own Moon Hoax page! Since he appears to hate NASA so much, and has stretched the truth in the past, his debunking was shocking to me.
But then I realized why: he claims that alien bases exist on the Moon, and uses NASA imagery to "prove" it. So he was really stuck: he had to support NASA on his page, because if he said the Moon landings were faked, how would he have those pictures he'd been touting? The irony of that situation is delicious to me. One of NASA's biggest detractors, forced by his own nonsense into supporting them.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
It's really sad because the universe really is a fascinating place to learn about even if you learn the truth. It doesn't take teaching nonsense like Haramein does to make it fascinating.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
It's really sad because the universe really is a fascinating place to learn about even if you learn the truth. It doesn't take teaching nonsense like Haramein does to make it fascinating.
Quite! Even a simple experiment like shining polarized light into a tank of water and adding sugar to it, and observing how the glowing plane of polarization rotates, is awe-inspiring. And I'm not even talking about high-energy physics, which is more fun