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Nassim Haramein's Delegate Program

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posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose
I have read that sound technology is probably what was used to build the pyramids and not the asinine explanation offered by traditional, mainstream institutions of learning.


there are several threads here at ATS discussing ancient sound tech & some specifically Egypt tho I have yet to read them & further my research into the topics, it is definitely something I want to look into more & have great interest in.

P.L.U.R.I
-B.M

P.S)
alot of Nassim's ideas surrounding the ark related to levitation, while others explored aspects of resonance, which is part of the reason for my interest in his work...

P.P.S) someone asked if I knew when Nassim predicted the Saturn geometry, I can't remember exactly but it would have been something he stated during the "Rouge Valley Metaphysical Seminars" he gave an 8hr lecture at. If you care to trawl through that presentation and find the part where he states it, by all means, but I sat through it once & that was enough for me, at least for a year or two anyway....I may watch it again one day...

[edit on 28/6/10 by B.Morrison]




posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison
P.L.U.R.I


For those, like me, who can't rest until you know what an acronym or an abbreviation stands for, "P.L.U.R.I" stands for PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT with INTEGRITY . . . is that correct, B.Morrison?



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Mock? I just pointed out that there have been plenty of musicians in the past who didn't feel that the frequency of 432Hz chosen for base tone made their music more powerful or cosmic as opposed to many other frequencies.


The link you provided doe NOT show this.


The link shows one thing, and does it well: that the choice of pitch is a matter of personal preference, which changes from person to person.


My point about studying pitch is that I am educated in the topics i am discussing, not that 432hz was my preferred 'taste' in ref' pitch.


If you re-read your own posts, that's not what you said. Didn't you say that 432 tuning just sounds better?



which bears no relation to education, which was my point, the one that your "superior" mind failed to grasp.


Oh well, if we go down that road, education and all, then for sake of consistency you should promptly stop posting in threads on topics in physics - as it is obvious you have no education in this field, and I do. If you think that's not a valid suggestion, then be prepared for the critique of ridiculous ideas such that 432Hz tuning is more natural than 430Hz tuning.


Speaking of which 430.5 is the number quoted as the "Verdi pitch" in the paper you link to. Pardon me, but does it mean that Verdi chose a wrong pitch, as I see that you are advocating 432?

Oh and by the way, I have had a few years of formal training in music.


I had not remembered things exactly right, admittedly & I cannot point to a paragraph stating 432hz as the most common resonant frequency of the average human voice


Well of course you can't because such statement is pure nonsense.


but to discredit the idea of 'average resonant frequencies' is ridiculous as you only need to realize that all house phones relay a thin band of frequencies with boosts at 1.25khz & 800hz (core frequencies of average human speech) to see this


Well that's a well known fact, and it's also true that a good approximation of a vowel as it is spoken or sung by humans is actually a combination of 3 bands. That's why some FM synthesizers are capable of producing sounds that are close to human speech. If you have 3 bands, the notion of "average frequency" does not carry any special significance.


it IS science you arrogant a-^%$#&*....


You have a keyboard malfunction, I am afraid.



So the Jews were hauling a car battery with them through the desert? Please write to scholars of Judaica, they will be amused.


(no, no mockery there at all.....
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Pardon me but saying that the Ark of the Covenant was a giant capacitor can only invite such reaction. You know, the Moon is made of cheese.


you have to put the effort in to understanding the theories (surrounding the true purpose of the ark of the covenant) to make any comments that hold credence & you are not...


Any such theory is a speculation, in the historical context that we don't have the Ark at our disposal. To extend the already tenuous speculation to the level of detail such as the Ark being an actual piece of electronic equipment is just patently stupid.


[edit on 28-6-2010 by buddhasystem]



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Any such theory is a speculation, in the historical context that we don't have the Ark at our disposal. To extend the already tenuous speculation to the level of detail such as the Ark being an actual piece of electronic equipment is just patently stupid.


No, it's not. We don't have to have the Ark at our disposal to study the issue of what the ark was actually functioning as, putting all historical records together, to discern a piece of the puzzle, for what it may be worth. It may serve as a lead. It may open a door.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Any such theory is a speculation, in the historical context that we don't have the Ark at our disposal. To extend the already tenuous speculation to the level of detail such as the Ark being an actual piece of electronic equipment is just patently stupid.


No, it's not. We don't have to have the Ark at our disposal to study the issue of what the ark was actually functioning as, putting all historical records together, to discern a piece of the puzzle, for what it may be worth. It may serve as a lead. It may open a door.


We think we know that tablets were carried inside the Ark, and that when it was installed in the Temple, the room filled with a cloud (the Glory of God).

Can you now please draw the schematics of the electronic device inside that box? Because apparently some people claim that it was a "capacitor". How smart.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:03 AM
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I think you may be missing my point altogether.

I cannot explain myself better. So be it.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Any such theory is a speculation, in the historical context that we don't have the Ark at our disposal. To extend the already tenuous speculation to the level of detail such as the Ark being an actual piece of electronic equipment is just patently stupid.


theories are speculations by their nature...

there is nothing idiotic about it at all no matter how much specialist knowledge you pertain relating to the one narrow field of physics, or how many times you state otherwise.



We think we know that tablets were carried inside the Ark, and that when it was installed in the Temple, the room filled with a cloud (the Glory of God).

who thinks this, proof, sources, referrences, anything but your word as self installed authority on all that there is....


Can you now please draw the schematics of the electronic device inside that box? Because apparently some people claim that it was a "capacitor". How smart.


lol you really are an asshole.
And one without any sense of irony whatsoever considering the addition of 'Buddha' to your name....

The ONLY thing you are interested in doing is shooting people down to inflate your own MASSIVE ego.



btw, just because YOU have not heard of something, does not make it incorrect,

You self rightously demand PROOF in the most derogitory of ways i.e

'draw this for me'

but completely fail to back up ANYTHING you claim is fact.

complete double standards.

I do not deny the inconsistencies you point out but notice the obvious, that you neglect to engage in any of the things that I DID provide accurate evidence for AND things that related to Nassim's work, which incidentally is not ALL physics, and just imagine...

if we were all too stop discussing the physics aspect of his work, you would no longer be needed in this thread, just think how lovely that would be, for you to shrivel away back to the dark corner you scuttled out from...

I am a man of truth & as such will be pointing out the inconsistencies you mention in my own threads on the subject of 432hz, I may have an open mind but I NEVER willingly promote false information.
Disinformation can be a most detrimental thing.

-B.M

[edit on 28/6/10 by B.Morrison]



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:17 AM
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Ark -



Hi guys- as an amateur capacitor-builder, woodworker, biblical scholar, and scientist I feel somewhat obliged to comment here. I should warn the readers that I am not very familiar with the works of Hutchinson or Haramein, although I am very conversant with those of Tesla.

The power of the ark as a capacitor relies almost solely on the 'dielectric material' (described as '****tim wood' or 'acacia wood', in this case) and its thickness. I'll note right now that the ONE number we need to be certain, the "Dielectric Constant" of acacia wood (or a material made of acacia gum- but I'll get into that later...) seems to be impossible to find online. So I'll solve the problem for a range of likely DC's (2-6), and thicknesses (1/2"-1"). But we can make a series of educated guesses, and try to find a logical conclusion.

I'm sure this guy will have a better grasp on the possibility of the ark being a capacitor than a mere physicist....


Now for the good news. (We'll set aside the entire concept of the 'lid', or "Mercy Seat' in this discussion). IF the Ark was covered with gold, inside and out, and IF there was a gap in that gold covering along the rim, then the Ark would function as a capacitor (an obsolete term for capacitor is 'condenser'), and we should be able to estimate its electrical characteristics. Specifically, the Ark would be the type of capacitor called a Leyden Jar (or "Leyden bottle").
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the following are notes taken by someone else who watched the same 8hr presentation Nassim gave and the notes are regarding the ark as a capacitor & provide some detail as to his thinking process and how he came to conclude the things he did...


The first person to talk about crystals was Plato. He wrote about Atlantis and we have used all of his stuff but NOT the 3 books that he wrote on Atlantis. He said that Plato insisted that Atlantis was factual and that he got the info from the high priest in Egypt. Very advanced civilization which was also described by Edgar Cayce. Nassim thinks that that crystal can be built that would like us to the geometry of space.

He noticed lots of references to crystals in the Bible. Describe a ship as well and describes the throne of God as crystals.
Most of the Bible is describing in the OT the coming and going of the ark of the covenant. He then connects Genisis descriptions w/ Plato's descriptions of Atlantis..or sees them as very similar. Like people living 600-800 years. Flooding both for Atlantis and Bible. Temple of Solomon was built for one purpose: To hold the ark of the covenant of God. An actual object.
Then he talks about Genesis and the tree of knowledge and the apple. If you cut an apple in half you get the double taurus (some geometrical thing that somehow connects to the tethredran). That's really pretty niffty. It connects to singularity.
Genisis 4:24 the mating of sons of God married the daughters of men. Again these sons of God who came to the earth but were not from the earth. They were the heros of old. We are missing a huge link and the link is getting wider between modern man and neandhtral man. Ex. 13:22. Moses going towards the Red Sea. Battle of manifestations to win. Moses won the contest w/ the high priest. Ark of the covenant is an actual capacitor. Can see this from the shape and constructron of it. It would weigh over 3 tons. So how to lift it? Dimensions in Bible match a box found in the remains of King Tut. Both boxes were exact size to fit into the scarphagus inside the grand pyramids of Egypt. !!! Perfect fit. Lower the ark inside the scarphagus is a perfect fit. Then he does a whole bunch of measurements.

What did they want to carry in such a capacitor? A huge energy source. Luminous object on top described as a pillar of light above it... He says it's a vortex. 2:48 is a pic there. So he says that if you built a small black hole, it would generate a vortex as well and.....this is what that picture is showing. Amazing how this guys mind works!!!!! :-) I mean it really fits. There's this large pillar of light coming out of the ark of the covenant.
Then he read in the Bible w/ the crossing of the Red Sea. He says maybe the Pharoah changed his mind b/c Moses was leaving w/ something he wasn't supposed to leave w/ :-) Like a black hole of singularity called the ark of the covenant. Pillar of cloud by Day and Pillar of Fire by night. But he wasn't suppposed to have the ark yet. Nassim wonders what they mean by "God"? What is this they called God? Certainly an object. God is translated from word: Tetragammaton. Amazing! It is really close to tetrahedran. Tetra-4 grammaton- levers. 4 levers of God. Grammaton- root is gravity, weight, gram. The word for God has a structure of a tetrahedran that has a gravitational effect. Then checked it all out w/ Kabbalah and it checks out w/ the geometry. So each letter of the word God has a number. Kabbalah is the oral tradition and only for initiates b/c it was the nature of God that was revealed. So maybe the Kabblaistic is all about the power of the ark of the covenant. Tetragrammaton was generating the numbers and get 72 names of God. So this is only the male god and missing the other half. Nassim thinks the people who embedded this code (an advanced civilization) into a civilization that was not ready for it, not advanced enuff for it, only embedded half of the code knowing that when the civilizaation figured out the one half, they would be able to easily figure out the other half. So if add 72 + 72= 144. Number of ascension in the Book of Revelations into the new city which is made of crystals w/ rainbows all around it and has 144 faces. He then picks up a tetrahedran and says there's exactly 144 faces on the outside of a 64 tetrahedran.

The last of Part 2

The ark lifted on its own and they were following the ark. So the trip that took only a year, took them 40 years b/c they were following the ark. Joshua 4:22 w/ the flooding Jordan river. The ark is god. Here the power of the ark was also used to part the Red Sea. So Moses had it before leaving Egypt.

Kabbalistic tree is related to the ark. The bottom part was a tetrahedran. He took the top part and bottom part and flipped them into each other and the result was a tetrahedran and some other stuff he said but i don't know. Compress it, you get the 3D geometry. He manages to get to the 64 tetrahedran. And then somehow he gets back to 72 and other stuff that all fits in. Then he has an animation of the tree that's pretty cool at 3:13

Black sun = black hole. Summerians mention Sun god. Tree of knowledge was the crystal tower that generated the Garden of Eden. He thinks Adam and Eve are the first crop of the aliens who fertilized the humans that were here. He says Eve figured it out. Apple=double tauras. She figured it was a power and how to use it. He thinks this is what generated Atlantis as described by Plato. He's waaaay out there :-) So interesting to listen to him. He thinks they had too much power too soon and got corrupted. Then the earth got hit by a metorite that could have been averted by the Sun God. So these last 5,000 years are learning to be ready to go back to the ark and the power of the vacuum.

He thinks we are approaching the return of the ark of the covenant. source


-B.M

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posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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www.in5d.com...

download part 1&2 of seminar or read notes,

most of these are worded as was without edits as apposed to the previous post.

-B.M

P.S)

originally posted by Mary Rose
is that correct, B.Morrison?


yup


[edit on 28/6/10 by B.Morrison]



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison
the following are notes taken by someone else who watched the same 8hr presentation Nassim gave and the notes are regarding the ark as a capacitor & provide some detail as to his thinking process and how he came to conclude the things he did...


Thank you so much for this!



This is my favorite type of post on a forum. I LOVE to read other people’s notes taken while viewing lectures/presentations by public figures. To me, this is what a forum is all about. Putting our heads together.





posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison
. . . Nassim's work, which incidentally is not ALL physics, and just imagine...


I love this about Nassim's work. I believe this is the wave of the future. Seeing subject matter within the context of other subject matter - less specialization. I think balancing the left and right brain enters in to this. Western education has been too left brain.

Nassim's website has the categories Anthropology, Archeology, Astrophysics, Black Hole Physics, and Cosmology on it.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Any such theory is a speculation, in the historical context that we don't have the Ark at our disposal. To extend the already tenuous speculation to the level of detail such as the Ark being an actual piece of electronic equipment is just patently stupid.


theories are speculations by their nature...

there is nothing idiotic about it at all no matter how much specialist knowledge you pertain relating to the one narrow field of physics, or how many times you state otherwise.


This is from Wikipedia:


In scientific usage, the term "theory" is reserved for ideas which meet baseline requirements about the kinds of empirical observations made, the methods of classification used, and the consistency of the theory in its application among members of the class to which it pertains. These requirements vary across different scientific fields of knowledge, but in general theories are expected to be functional and parsimonious: i.e. a theory should be the simplest possible tool that can be used to effectively address the given class of phenomena.


A statement that the Ark was an electrical capacitor has no more foundation in fact that a statement than it was used to carry biological weapons. Or even, stone tablets. Sorry but such random statements do not serve any useful purpose.




We think we know that tablets were carried inside the Ark, and that when it was installed in the Temple, the room filled with a cloud (the Glory of God).

who thinks this, proof, sources, referrences, anything but your word as self installed authority on all that there is....


What, you never heard of the book called Bible? Go figure.


lol you really are an asshole.


That's some real skill in arguing your cause! Impressive.


You self rightously demand PROOF in the most derogitory of ways


Two spelling errors in one short sentence are a bit too much, don't you think?


but completely fail to back up ANYTHING you claim is fact


What exactly did I claim as fact? So far I was picking at you with your theory that 432Hz is the best tuning ever (even though you yourself quoted a source saying that Verdi would disagree). I find equally laughable the hypothesis that the Ark was an electrical device, or was used to carry a supply of pork sausage - same cr@p.


if we were all too stop discussing the physics aspect of his work, you would no longer be needed in this thread, just think how lovely that would be, for you to shrivel away back to the dark corner you scuttled out from...


Again, masterful conduct of discussion here!

So be my guest and explain what Haramein's "theory" has to say about properties of hadrons.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by B.Morrison
www.in5d.com...


This website has a spriitual bent, and I believe this is Nassim's strength: he combines science and spirituality.


One truth.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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Just looked at another paper of Haramain's, "Collective Coherent Oscillation Plasma Modes In Surrounding Media of Black Holes and Vacuum Structure - Quantum Processes with Considerations of Spacetime Torque and Coriolis Forces".

Chapter after chapter of nonsense. You've got to love this: "A vast amount of energy is stored in the flux of the quantum vacuum".

And this is patently wrong:

In the chromodynamics theory of elementary particle physics, the charged particles are quarks and their fractional charge is called the “color” quantum number.


so he really doesn't know much of particle physics either. Another prime example of bullcrap:


The lepton number for an electron in its lowest quantum state in the geometry of the gravitational force of a black hole can act as a ground state in the dynamics of the Freidman universe derived from the Schwarzschild lattice universe



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by B.Morrison
www.in5d.com...


This website has a spriitual bent, and I believe this is Nassim's strength: he combines science and spirituality.


One truth.


Yes, this photo from the site combines a lot of stuff:




posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Mary Rose
I have read that sound technology is probably what was used to build the pyramids and not the asinine explanation offered by traditional, mainstream institutions of learning.


This has been alluded to but not directly stated this way.

Haramein points out in his presentations that the pyramids could not have been built with the technology we have today - at least not with the technology that is admitted to in the public sector.

This means that the ancients were more advanced than we are. A good reason to study the ancients.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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Fantabulous post, B.Morrison.


In order to be able to comprehend why the 'fringe' is growing, one must be a researcher first, skeptic second.

To hardline skeptics, that sounds like impossible blasphemy... but, well, thats why they don't 'get it'.

If you don't spend sufficient time delving into the 'fringe' with an open mind, you have no place to argue about it with people that have researched enough to know that there is some merit to be found in the 'fringe'.

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It is Archibiosis, or life-origination—"origination," so far, of course, as the manifestation of life on all the seven planes is concerned. It is at this period of Evolution that the absolutely eternal universal motion, or vibration, that which is called in Esoteric language "the GREAT BREATH," differentiates in the primordial, first manifested ATOM. More and more, as chemical and physical sciences progress, does this occult axiom find its corroboration in the world of knowledge: the scientific hypothesis, that even the simplest elements of matter are identical in nature and differ from each other only owing to the variety of the distributions of atoms in the molecule or speck of substance, or by the modes of its atomic vibration, gains every day more ground.



We say and maintain that SOUND, for one thing, is a tremendous Occult power; that it is a stupendous force, of which the electricity generated by a million of Niagaras could never counteract the smallest potentiality when directed with occult knowledge. Sound may be produced of such a nature that the pyramid of Cheops would be raised in the air, or that a dying man, nay, one at his last breath, would be revived and filled with new energy and vigour.


The quotes are from H. P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine Vol. 1.

If anyone is interested further, I suggest a look-see to the section on p.554 as well - among other sections of her other texts, I'm sure.

According to several researchers now, Hitler and his crazy science R&D crew were intensely influenced by Blavatsky... anyone familiar with her work can easily see why.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 03:14 PM
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lol you really are an asshole.
And one without any sense of irony whatsoever considering the addition of 'Buddha' to your name....

The ONLY thing you are interested in doing is shooting people down to inflate your own MASSIVE ego.


I really couldn't bring myself to state it this well... But you better be damned sure I have been thinking EXACTLY this for the majority of the discussion with "buddha"systems.

I don't like to admit it, but I confess nonetheless.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Just looked at another paper of Haramain's, "Collective Coherent Oscillation Plasma Modes In Surrounding Media of Black Holes and Vacuum Structure - Quantum Processes with Considerations of Spacetime Torque and Coriolis Forces".

Chapter after chapter of nonsense. You've got to love this: "A vast amount of energy is stored in the flux of the quantum vacuum".

And this is patently wrong:

In the chromodynamics theory of elementary particle physics, the charged particles are quarks and their fractional charge is called the “color” quantum number.


so he really doesn't know much of particle physics either. Another prime example of bullcrap:


The lepton number for an electron in its lowest quantum state in the geometry of the gravitational force of a black hole can act as a ground state in the dynamics of the Freidman universe derived from the Schwarzschild lattice universe


Explain yourself.

1. I'm pretty sure he is right about the quantum vacuum. This is why he comes to the conclusion he does in THE OTHER paper... You still won't acknowledge the proven Zero Point Energy... Or VACUUM ENERGY!...

2. You DON'T EXPLAIN WHY anything is patently wrong...

Get real.

The buddha would be ashamed.



posted on Jun, 28 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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Regarding the capacitor Ark, check this out:
www.orgone.org...

I believe Wilhelm Reich stumbled upon a similar phenomenon. Much less intense than the reports from Ethiopia, where just being the caretaker for the ark gives you cancer from radiation. Allegedly haha.

Alternating the substance used to build the ark(like that wood and gold) is somehow producing an EM effect of some sort.

But of course, the ark was probably using 'quasi-crystals' or something to amplify and multiply the facets of space time that were gathering energy from the vacuum...

If that makes any sense at all.



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