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Originally posted by chuckk
Iran already is saying that as soon as they get nuclear weapons that they are taking out Israel.
posted by chuckk:
Everyone is already against Israel so why strike?
Originally posted by Curio
Originally posted by Faiol
I am becoming a subscriber to the Israel hating bandwagon ...
I just cant understand some people...
Most people don't understand Israel. I'm quite sympathetic towards them, even though I don't agree with some things they do. You just have to look at their history in the past 50-60 years to see where they're coming from and why they do what they do. Would you do any differently? It's easy to say "no I wouldn't!"
I'll probably get flamed for that and some people will suggest I'm posting from Israel or something
Originally posted by belial259
I wonder why they'd even go to the effort. It seems more a symbolic gesture to me.
Logically the subs shouldn't need to be parked off the coast. They could just sit in their sub pen and nuke Iran I'd imagine.
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
who's more civilized the soviet union or israhell during the cold war the us or the soviet union don't attack lest they get provoked israhell however attacks whenever it feels like it
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
who's more civilized the soviet union or israhell during the cold war the us or the soviet union don't attack lest they get provoked israhell however attacks whenever it feels like it
Whoever it is on this thread who keeps repeating the lie that Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map, you should be banned from posting until you take the trouble to check your facts. That has been proven to be a blatant lie and yet you idiots and propagandists keep posting it as the truth.
Originally posted by Mike6158
Wow... sounds like a bunch of jihadists have signed up so they could post here... Conversely, I'm puzzled by the nuke-em crowd... does the term radioactive fallout ring any bells?
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Skellon
I am not so sure. Turkey has a massive (2nd Largest in NATO), well equipped (NATO kit) and reasonably (NATO standard) trained army.
Israel has a reasonably sized Army that is well equipped and is mostly reservists, so they have high motivation but aren't necessarily the bee's knees when it comes to quality.
I'd put my money on Turkey in such a scenario to be honest. They have the 3rd largest Air force in NATO, behind only the RAF and USAF. It is also larger than the Israeli Air Force and has more combat aircraft, mostly F-16's and F-4's, compared to Israel's F-16's and F-15's.
Iran is one thing, but Israel certainly doesn't want to fudge with Turkey. Whoever thinks they'd be a pushover is deluding themselves.
[edit on 30/5/10 by stumason]
Originally posted by Skellon
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
who's more civilized the soviet union or israhell during the cold war the us or the soviet union don't attack lest they get provoked israhell however attacks whenever it feels like it
If you were born into a country surrounded by your enemies and they kept poking you every year to provoke a reaction I am sure you would see things differently.
Originally posted by dubiousone
Originally posted by Skellon
Originally posted by starwarsisreal
who's more civilized the soviet union or israhell during the cold war the us or the soviet union don't attack lest they get provoked israhell however attacks whenever it feels like it
If you were born into a country surrounded by your enemies and they kept poking you every year to provoke a reaction I am sure you would see things differently.
Interesting perspective you have. Who is prodding whom? I think you have it ass-backwards.
Iranian President at Tehran Conference: 'Very Soon, This Stain of Disgrace [i.e. Israel] Will Be Purged From the Center of the Islamic World – and This is Attainable'
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Skellon
Yeah, ok dude.. It's obvious your an Israeli fanboy, so I'm not going to spend the next several hours doing the proverbial dance of death over who would beat whom. I'm not comparing wiki's or whatever it is you said.
I was just saying your statement about Israel "slaughtering" the Turks is just plain wrong and is actually insulting to the Turkish military who are a decent fighting force.
Just because Israel beat half-arse Arab forces 60 years ago, that doesn't mean that they can beat anyone today and the Turks aren't Arab's.
It is interesting to note that the only Arab formation to fight the Israeli's to a standstill in those early wars was the Arab Legion, which was trained and led by British officers, so it goes to show that the armies they defeated at the time were poorly led, but with the right training they can be as good as any IDF soldier.
Turkey is anything but poorly led and I highly doubt the US would stick it's nose in with Turkey (a NATO member) without some serious backlash throughout the whole alliance, because like it or not, Israel is none to popular amongst the EU right now anyway, mainly due to their disgusting behaviour against the Palestinians..