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“The Chonan [navy corvette] was sunk by this torpedo that was later to be discovered to have been of German manufacture. Germany said it sells no military weapons to North Korea. This thing is starting to look like a classic false flag operation,” Wayne Madsen says.
“Kim Jong-Il who very rarely travels – and when he does, he only travels by train – went to Beijing. My sources in Beijing say that he went to Beijing, that Chinese authorities said that North Korea did this, he denied it. They were satisfied with his response,” Madsen adds. “Now the Chinese are very suspicious of the US’ intentions in richening things up in the Korean peninsula.”
The sinking of the Cheonan took place in South Korean waters dominated by a joint U.S.-Korean base for anti-submarine warfare operations, an area North Korea admits it does not have the technology to penetrate with its submarines.
It is speculated the USNS Salvor was laying bottom mines in the area and a rising mine was inadvertently released.
“If indeed it was an American rising mine that sank the Cheonan, it would constitute a friendly-fire accident,” writes Yoichi Shimatsu. Or it was a Gulf of Tonkin incident intended to provide a pretext to blame North Korea. Either way, don’t expect the corporate media to report on this.
“Are we once again going back to an old recipe (already used twice) in the past 100 years? The economy is tanking, lets fix it and turn people’s attention with staging another war as the only proven business,” writes the Macedonian International News Agency.
South Korean Prime Minister Lee Myung-bak has claimed “overwhelming evidence” that a North Korean torpedo sank the corvette Cheonan on March 26, killing 46 sailors. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claimed that there’s “overwhelming evidence” in favor of the theory that North Korea sank the South Korean Navy warship Cheonan. But the articles of proof presented so far by military investigators to an official inquiry board have been scanty and inconsistent.
There’s yet another possibility, that a U.S. rising mine sank the Cheonan in a friendly-fire accident.
In the recent U.S.-China strategic talks in Shanghai and Beijing, the Chinese side dismissed the official scenario presented by the Americans and their South Korean allies as not credible.
This conclusion was based on an independent technical assessment by the Chinese military, according to a Beijing-based military affairs consultant to the People Liberation Army.
Hardly any of the relevant facts that counter the official verdict have made headline news in either South Korea or its senior ally, the United States.
Originally posted by nesta
Why does "false flag" always have the connotation that it was the United States? While many say that the USA has used false flags, has it ever been proven beyond a reasonable doubt? As far as I know, no irrefutable evidence has ever surfaced that would without a doubt prove the USA has ever used a false flag in the sense we are discussing. Does this mean we never have? No, it simply means the evidence is not sufficient enough for me or anybody to claim that "the USA has committed a false flag" is a factual statement. Laying belief aside, if anyone can provide me with irrefutable evidence that the USA has carried out a false flag, in the sense we are discussing, I will retract my previous statement. I am not saying that this scenario is not possible, just that I will hold my judgment until it can be proven or disproven without doubt and, due to the nature of these sorts of things, I will probably be holding it indefinitely. I would like to take a look at this incident from another angle, I don't believe this and what I said above applies to this as well. Is it possible that it is a false flag, but carried out by someone other than the usual suspect (USA)? Could it have been a false flag carried out by China? Yes, I believe there is just as much possibility that China did it as there is that the USA did. We know already why the USA would have done it, so what would China have to gain by such an action? Who knows, not I, but that doesn't mean I cannot speculate. Perhaps they aim to draw the USA into a war, for what reasons though? Well again merely speculation here, but perhaps to further increase the country's debt, or to draw troops to the region for an ambush. I know it is far fetched, but no more so than claiming that it might have been a false flag carried out by the United States. My point is that there is more than one way to look at something, and just because something is plausible doesn't mean it is actual.
I know, no irrefutable evidence has ever surfaced that would without a doubt prove the USA has ever used a false flag in the sense we are discussing.