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VA-111 Shkval underwater rocket

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posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:38 AM
Now I've tried searching the ATS for any threads about this but found nothing..

Does anyone know if the russian navy has started to use the Shkval in any operative way or are they still testing and refining it?

posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:58 AM
What terms did you search for?
+shkval +rocket
+shkval +torpedo
Google site search for Shkval"

A regular Google search of the web for VA-111 Shkval turned up some reliable-looking sources.

posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 08:45 AM
You can also do a google search on just this site (click the search tab above) here what came up for Shkval

Above Top Secret - Military & Government Projects - The Shkval ...
Conspiracy related discusion about The Shkval (Squall) underwater rocket. ...

Above Top Secret - Aircraft Projects - Protection from the ......
The Shkval is a sub-killer, particularly if it's fitted with a tactical nuclear warhead. ...

Above Top Secret - Weaponry - What wrong with LA class SSNs?! ...
To be more precise, the Kursk was preparing to test-fire a VA-111 Shkval underwater rocket, when it apparently either ignited with the torpedo tube inner door ...

Above Top Secret - Weaponry ...
b]shkval and shkval/e torpedos, Nucleartomato. Collection of nifty weapon ...

Above Top Secret - Weaponry ...
shkval and shkval/e torpedos, Nucleartomato, 8, 351,

Above Top Secret - Board Questions & Business - ... ...
iracq 3 j-10 3 stealth technology 3 saddams sons 3 noahs ark expedition 3 free mason 3 `prisoner abuse photos` 3 wwii weaponry 3 ac-130 video 3 shkval 3 `theta ...

Above Top Secret - Weaponry - Torpedeo Technologies ...
Torpedeo Technologies Aside from the Shkval (sp) are there any new developments in torpedeo technologies? ...

Above Top Secret - Military & Government Projects ... The SR-75 and other new airplanes, snakevenom The Shkval (Squall) underwater rocket. $tranger, ...

Above Top Secret - Weaponry - jet fighter takes off out of water.. ... ... then considering that the russians have developed the shkval torpedo, it is just
a question of time until when that submarine is eliminated. curme Member. ...

Above Top Secret - Military & Government Facilities - What sank ... ... Apparently is was testing a new type of Russian torpedo called the Shkval. Check the link for specs. ...

posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 08:04 AM
Thanks for helping me out on the search.. I REALLY need to start spelling correctly when I search

But looking through the threads quickly I cannot seem to find if anyone know if they are still in a development phase or in active use. You got any info on that Popeye? Thanks again

posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 09:02 AM
From reading various article I think the original design has seen some limited (and problematic) service and that the main effort is not on the development of the 'e' version (less problematic hopefully.

There is a lot of speculation the it was some variant (original or test 'e' version) that caused the Krusk sinking.

Sorry do not have a definitive article to llink you to

Will see what I can come up with

posted on Jun, 10 2004 @ 09:14 AM
just found this site with new information on Deep Angel

The Shkval (Squall) is the revolutionary new breed of torpedo in use by Russian Naval forces.

The Shkval is the first use of supercavitational technology in modern weapons and represents perhaps the largest leap forward in underwater warfare since the invention of the submarine itself.

Launched from Bars (Akula) and Antyey (Oscar) class submarines, Shkval torpedoes travel at over five times the speed of conventional torpedoes. Propelled forward by a rocket engine, there are no countermeasures or defenses which can stop the Shkval.

Research on developing a self propelled supercavitational projectile began in the early 1960’s at the Ukrainian Institute of Hydromechanics. It took over a decade for the fundamental problems to be solved, during which time, the sound barrier is believed to have been first broken underwater. The research led to the construction of underwater supercavitating rifles for use by elite Russian Spetznaz troops, and in the mid 1970's to the creation of the world’s first supercavitating torpedo.

First appearing in 1977, the original VA-111 Shkval is some 26 ft (8 m) long and is thought to have a range of around 5 miles (8 kms). Believed by some to be unguided, sources differ on whether the torpedo is nuclear capable. The Shkval is propelled forward by a solid rocket motor. Traveling at over 300 mph (500km/h) the Shkval is so fast that (despite being equipped with one) it does not even require a warhead! Its sheer mass and velocity is enough to sink an opposing submarine.

Development of the Shkval has continued through the 1980’s and 1990’s to the present day. Very little information is available about the Shkval II, the existence of which was made public by the Russian government in 1998. Rumours state a top speed of possibly 450+ mph (720 kph/h) and a vastly improved range, believed by some to be in the region of 60+ miles (100 km). The fact that the Shkval II is guided renders it vastly superior to the original Shkval. The Shkval II is thought to be able to supercavitate, then if need be slow down and reacquire its target, before speeding up and homing in for the kill. Yet newer techniques developed by Ukrainian scientists are believed to offer the possibility for high speed supercav guidance and maneuvering.

The Russian Navy has always pursued a different approach to the United States ‘run silent, run deep’ philosophy on submarine warfare. Placing more emphasis on speed rather than silence, it appears the Russians may have backed the winning horse.

Shkval has often been classed as a defensive weapon, used to protect against the Russians inability to run as silent as opposing submarines. Such ideas, however, have been put to rest with the creation of the Shkval II and further guided variants.

With their longer ranger, the Shkval II and newer variants could potentially be launched at a distance of over 60 miles, and home in on their target, with no countermeasures available. As such, a single nuclear equipped Shkval could take out a carrier battle group whilst sitting tens of miles away.

Little is known of current Russian Shkval projects, other than the amazing potential which supercavitational projectiles hold. The capacity to create a supercavitating torpedo/rocket which would race towards a target underwater and then become airborne once nearing a coastline would render any kind of anti ballistic missile shield useless.

The Russian Navy is the primary user of the Shkval. A downgraded Shkval, the Shkval-E went to an international arms fairs in 1995, and both China, Iran and France have been known to have acquired limited numbers of Shkvals. The Russian press has claimed that the technology of the Shkval cannot be reverse-engineered and thus the Russian Navy is marketing the export variant aggressively.

The Shkval rocket torpedo represents the first step in the underwater revolution which is fast approaching. As funds pour into supercavitational research around the world it becomes more and more clear that control of supercavitation will soon equate to control of the seas.

It should be noted that a US business (apprently acting for the Canadian secret service) was arrest in Russia for trying to steal Shkval secret (see FAS link on first post)

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