I pesonally trust that Bill Nye has interest in the matter, he is extremely ecologically aware and active, it is his pet interest.

He is not a geologist, but I still think his answers to questions about the oil leak and solutions for it were much more honest and to the point than anything I have heard from BP, Obama or any other person.

He said there are already cracks in and around the leak itself, and that it is very fragile right now. I think he may know what he is talking about.

Originally posted by space cadet
I pesonally trust that Bill Nye has interest in the matter, he is extremely ecologically aware and active, it is his pet interest.

He is not a geologist, but I still think his answers to questions about the oil leak and solutions for it were much more honest and to the point than anything I have heard from BP, Obama or any other person.

He said there are already cracks in and around the leak itself, and that it is very fragile right now. I think he may know what he is talking about.

Really Bill Nye the science guy? Sorry for my ignorance but I watched this guy as a kid and he knows how to put on a good show for 12 y/o's at school but I never figured him to be a "real" scientist. I could be wrong, but tell me please he isn't just entertaining the public interest with grade school science like he did to our class as a kid.
I think he's a nice guy, but c'mon he's on CNN? This guy was competing with beakmans world when I was growing up.
That's our guy we look to as adults now?
I hope there's someone else who can shine matters rather than a childs science teacher, or is that what we've come to?
Please tell me he's smarter than what I think he is.
Because if so I am all for it, but my main point resides.

Originally posted by space cadet
I pesonally trust that Bill Nye has interest in the matter, he is extremely ecologically aware and active, it is his pet interest.

He is not a geologist, but I still think his answers to questions about the oil leak and solutions for it were much more honest and to the point than anything I have heard from BP, Obama or any other person.

He said there are already cracks in and around the leak itself, and that it is very fragile right now. I think he may know what he is talking about.

Dear Space Cadet,
The only interests IMO that Bill Nye, "The Science Guy", has in this game is
no more than anyone of us. Unless, of course his BP stock return is of interest and he is making a few $'s on each appearance.

He may be as green as they come but the only information he has is the same as we have, unless he has some "secret" inside sources.

Yes, I am sure this may be one of his "pet" interests, hobbies or whatever but he is not an EXPERT and on those grounds should not be giving Expert opinion.

It is not a matter of honesty. It is that he is quite adept at explaining complicated matters on a level that normal people can understand. Not unlike Stephen Hawking or Carl Sagan. The difference being THEY are experts in that of which they speak. To me, Bill Nye talking about the geological and consequences of this oil spew would be like asking a GP about the details of complicated brain surgical procedures.

He is smart and seems to be a nice guy but again not an expert in this field.
What we need on these threads: Information from experts!!! Not bloggers or paranoid web site developers, like the OP, who do not know, or may never know, the BIG PICTURE!!

Thanks again,
Tom

Please see my posts above.

This is just disturbing.

From the videos I have seen the Junk shot has failed.

This is what I think has happened from the videos in the discussion here.

BP at best slowed the flow with the junk shot. The drill mud was not heavy enough to counter act the pressure of the oil so they slowed it down in preparation to cut the riser pipe below the kink with the junk shot. I’m not sure they make dill mud that heavy to counter act that much pressure. That Frame in the video showing the ROV welding, is not welding it’s cutting. Not sure if it was the riser pipe or something else in prep for the cut of the riser pipe. At some point the Junk shot caused another rupture hole, or the Bop could have blow the rubber \ steel seals inside and caused that rupture as well. That’s where the screen gets very muddy.

I’m sure BP wants to cut the riser off at this point and set a new coupling in place at the cut. Either that or they did cut the riser pipe below the kink which would also would show a muddy screen with a lot more oil and pressure exiting. I’m not sure if BP can add another BOP if the top of the current BOP is badly damaged. There is no way to stop it if that is the case. The current BOP will have to removed form the well head and another BOP put in its place.

You really have think about this BOP in place. That BOP was acting as an anchor to this rig as the rig collapsed, moved, drifted and sank. So who knows what damage there is to this BOP that BP is not showing us? That BOP is large I think 5 stories high.


[edit on 29-5-2010 by SJE98]

Yeah, that deffo looks like oil leaking again...none of the muddy stuff seen over the last few days....

Anyone know exactly what we are looking at just now on the BP livecam?

'detonating' a nuke in or over the water thier is NOT! i repeat, NOT going to stop the oil from coming out of the rig hole down thier. all its going to, is make the water radioactive, the radiation will quickly fidn its way into the soil, from thier into the local water supplies, and contaminate surrounding citys and towns...thats all its gunna do.
I posted in another thread...reinforced quick drying cement...i think its a good shot! snake long metal pipes down into the hole....pump/fill it with qucik drying cement, like the stuff yuo can get at a hardware store for emergency purposes, incase it rains and water comes in through walls. ive used it a few times, it dries very quick, but its gotta be made exactly to the letter, otherwise it will remain liquidy* its kinda pricey too...
think about it...fill the hole with quick drying reinforced cement..then as taking the pipe out, near the rim, fill more, exiting the hole, top it off with a nice mound. I think its a good shot!

I hear all this talk on here about nuking this leak....I honestly don't believe anyone is seriously even considering this as an option...

I really can't see how a nuke would do any good, but I'm no expert.

All I know is that BP say they are "working on it", and all I see on the feeds is more leaks than a sieve, and oil being washed up all along the coast.

Are BP really working on it? Are they stalling? Are they providing real live feeds?

Who knows, but the oil is still leaking......

Just let me say this, I worked in the oil field in Oklahoma. BP whom I worked for then Amoco. There is no one that wants the leak (spill) stopped more than BP. The cost alone will be billions, new rig, clean up, there is all sorte of cost that will go with it. This just started. I t will be years befor it gets right. People that dont know how it really works should not guess. There has been blowouts that took 2 to 3 years to stop. And that above water. Remember the gulf war 1? 18 mo. People say this and that well we just dont know, I think when the platform fell it could have broke off the BOP. I also dont think the platform was a drilling rig rather it was a production platform. Big diff. Im not taking up fot BP just saying a lot of companys are involed. They are not the sole owner of the platform, they could be the mangers. Dont know but all companys are part owners to some dregee. Give this thing some more time. We will know it all in time and big companys relly try hard not this type of thing happen. Good luck all of you.

Originally posted by tomdham

Originally posted by space cadet
I pesonally trust that Bill Nye has interest in the matter, he is extremely ecologically aware and active, it is his pet interest.

He is not a geologist, but I still think his answers to questions about the oil leak and solutions for it were much more honest and to the point than anything I have heard from BP, Obama or any other person.

He said there are already cracks in and around the leak itself, and that it is very fragile right now. I think he may know what he is talking about.

Dear Space Cadet,
The only interests IMO that Bill Nye, "The Science Guy", has in this game is
no more than anyone of us. Unless, of course his BP stock return is of interest and he is making a few $'s on each appearance.

He may be as green as they come but the only information he has is the same as we have, unless he has some "secret" inside sources.

Yes, I am sure this may be one of his "pet" interests, hobbies or whatever but he is not an EXPERT and on those grounds should not be giving Expert opinion.

It is not a matter of honesty. It is that he is quite adept at explaining complicated matters on a level that normal people can understand. Not unlike Stephen Hawking or Carl Sagan. The difference being THEY are experts in that of which they speak. To me, Bill Nye talking about the geological and consequences of this oil spew would be like asking a GP about the details of complicated brain surgical procedures.

He is smart and seems to be a nice guy but again not an expert in this field.
What we need on these threads: Information from experts!!! Not bloggers or paranoid web site developers, like the OP, who do not know, or may never know, the BIG PICTURE!!

Thanks again,
Tom

Please see my posts above.

I totally agree, but the reason that you have non-technical, not-experts discussing this is because non of the experts are.

Instead the media and the experts remain quite and the forces us to discuss what is going on in forums like this.

If a 2012 like event ever occurred it would unfold just like this with the media and the scientific community keeping the public in the dark about what was really happening so the governments of the world could ensure their survival.

Now I am not saying that is what is going on here, but its is really daunting that there is a lack of information coming out about this.

The media has been focused on the political blame game and the only real information that we have so far is that given by a few scientists who had the courage to stand up and call the government estimates of the flow rate BS.

Perhaps if the the public was being informed of what is really happening threads like this wouldn't be needed.