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reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 09:41 AM by beta.services
reply to post by lpowell0627



Why do you need a flag to be united?

Think of this from the point of view of someone that hasn't had a flag shoved in their face since birth.

When Nelson Mandella became president he gave South Africa a new flag. Sure its worn as a symbol of pride. But all South Africans know it was him that united the people. Not the flag. No one would care if he stood there without the flag plastered over every spare space. No one would call him unpatriotic for not displaying the flag.

He, himself, as a man did something. And he has the right to be remembered for that. And I dont think anyone would lessen his achievements by reducing him to a flag.

From the outside world, Americans appear to be reducing anything they have done, good or bad, to a symbol. When you do that, you can be fooled into thinking that if anyone attacks that symbol, they are attacking you. And when you have no control over where that symbol goes, and what can be done under it, do you really want that symbol representing you?


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 10:12 AM by belial259
reply to post by WWJFKD



That's terrible.

No Star Spangled banner at all.

What is happening to America?

I don't even know what to say.

[edit on 28-5-2010 by belial259]


reply posted on 28-5-2010 @ 10:17 AM by lpowell0627
Originally posted by beta.services
From the outside world, Americans appear to be reducing anything they have done, good or bad, to a symbol. When you do that, you can be fooled into thinking that if anyone attacks that symbol, they are attacking you. And when you have no control over where that symbol goes, and what can be done under it, do you really want that symbol representing you?


Your point is well taken and I respect it, although I disagree.

South Africa is actually a wonderful example. Right now, you are facing the potential of another racial war. People, separated by their skin color, battling for their own personal desires either individually or collectively as a race.

Your flag, the flag of any nation, has no skin color. It is the symbol of what ultimately unites people in any nation to fight for, and support, and better, the nation that they choose to be a part of.

If people in South Africa could unite themselves under the flag of your country, and remember the people in your past that made that flag possible, and how many people died to make that flag have meaning, perhaps the color of one's skin would somehow seem less important.

Similarly to the pride a nation feels when winning the Olympics, and hearing their national anthem sung for the world, the flag embodies these emotions. There is a reason that these traditions are maintained and respected throughout the world.

The flag is not merely a symbol. It is most certainly not just a piece of cloth. It is the representation of what many, many people died for and continue to risk their lives to protect.
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