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Originally posted by broahes
reply to post by Vitchilo
Amendments have to be ratified by 3 quarters of the states to pass.. the 14th amendment was ratified by the needed number, so it did indeed become an amendment for all of the states.
Originally posted by piddles
Originally posted by Mr. Toodles
reply to post by piddles
Seriously? You are going to call him racist because of the "foreign Hoarde" remark? Look at the country, that is exactly what it is. They have overwhelmed our local governments. They have run our neighborhoods down. And taken the jobs that LEGAL citizens should have. A hoarde is exactly what they are. They have destroyed us.
[edit on 28-5-2010 by Mr. Toodles]
I am apart this "hoarde" and maybe I don't like hearing people, friends, family, being implied as monsters. Maybe i'm tired of white people being afraid of not being the majority, who knows.
glad to know I've "run your neighborhoods down". what else have I done because I'm mexican and the son of an illegal?
tell me, whose fault is it that illegals take american jobs, the employee or the employer?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This law will get NOWHERE. And it shouldn't. AZ is showing its ass. Someone else said these laws are being made to show the voters that the politicians support their racism and bigotry. I must agree. The people's bigotry is being used for their votes. And unfortunately, as illustrated in this thread, many people are falling for the trick. :shk:
Originally posted by Grumble
Just a politician playing the game of "I am more bigoted than my rivals" to keep his base support.
14th Amendment, Section 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Of course this came after the Civil War in an attempt to protect former slaves and their children. Mexicans are, in essence, our slaves of the modern era.
Originally posted by slank
In their fervor [desperation?] they are going past the bounds.
Originally posted by djvexd
Seeing how citizenship is applied and given by the federal gov't this is nothing more than grand-standing. I agree with the bill, but they must really think anger and desperation will override common sense.
Originally posted by AllIsOne
reply to post by GorehoundLarry
People should be aware of criminals!
Sir, it has nothing to do with the color of our skin. If you come here illegally you broke the law and should be deported immediately. End of discussion. If you argue against my point you are de facto aiding & abating a criminal. Sad ...
Source: Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code
persons born to two US citizens regardless of location, born to and claimed by one US citizen regardless of location, someone naturalized through the immigration process. A US citizen can not hold dual citizenship with any other nation. Citizenship cannot be gained or surrendered more than once. Citizenship of a natural born citizen cannot be removed. Citizenship of a naturalized citizen can only be removed by an act of Congress, on an individual basis and on conviction of treason, sedition or insurrection.
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
As someone else said, the only way Arizona can legally enact such a law would be for them to secede from the union. It makes me incredibly sad that this legislation is even being considered.
I respect the views of those who disagree, as always.