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Originally posted by broahes
When did we get rid of section 1 of the 14th amendment?
Originally posted by Grumble
I am not pro-illegal immigration. In fact, I support increased border security and much, much more vigilant enforcement and prosecution of employers who take advantage of the situation. I think anyone who is illegal should be deported, period and if our country needs a labor pool, reasonable legal means to accomplish such should be devised.
Nevertheless, whoever has proposed this ridiculous law is clearly seeking to incite the most militant elements of his constituency. And let's be real here, you and I know damned well that a good number of the most militant are fundamentally opposed to latino immigration for ethnic and cultural reasons. Just like racism against blacks, it exists and if you argue it does not, you have confirmed your own bigotry (or delusional state).
It is simply not constructive to raise the passions of those on the fringe.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
That way their kid becomes a US citizen and then the whole family can come in the country.
IMO this is awesome.
Originally posted by broahes
reply to post by sdcigarpig
Do me a favor.. get out a law dictionary.. get out a copy of the 14th amendment and go through the first section and read the legal definition of all of those words.. then tell me that it only applies to slaves..
I don't care what was intended by those words..
Everyone is quick to spout off that this is a Republic. That is correct. A nation founded on laws.. and the rule of those laws. Not of men, of law.
Words play a big role in this, see?
Listen, I personally don't care. I am only pointing out what is very clear, and for the most part, I side with the idea that something should be done about illegal immigration, our government.. employers.. all of it, BUT.. those that are quick to jump up and use the basis of law can always be bitten in the ass by it.
Originally posted by sdcigarpig
...“all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed.
As you can see it was specifically for those who were slave, and the descendent of slaves, not for foriegn nationals who come here to drop a baby and then demand citizenship cause their child would be considered a citizen of the country. Tell me, if a woman, who is pregnant, breaks the law and is sent to prison, what happens to the child? The child is immediately taken from the mother and sent to either live with relatives or is placed into foster care. Illegale immigrants, should not be granted special rights under any circumstances, they have broken the laws of the country and are criminials.
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by black cat
The child becomes a Ward of the state. The mother gets deported. Plain and simple.
What is the issue here?