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Who Is Jesus' Father?

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posted on May, 30 2010 @ 09:48 PM
“The 5500 Year Suppression of Ages”

To know is immortal

The Greatest curiosities upon our selves, is simply to know our selves and the mysteries of our Self being and Universe so vast. What grand purpose do we have here and why so much cruelty and suffering upon our selves. Because we don’t know ourselves and we don’t truly have the freedom to attain that goal for the formations of environments around us and through medias. Sins, we know plenty of, and we know why, money and power, two of the greatest sins for all. There is no power in us as there is in our Galactic Father, or God as you know him, though you know him not, and know not how to reveal Him for his true manner of being to convince us that He Exists.

Because they want to convince you that God is Money and money exists.

The existence of money and power for luxuries and perversions, above all, have distorted our very conception of well being, histories and spirituality, for evil always seeks to take away your spirituality to weaken you. Hence conformed and implemented Corruptions of Propaganda. We see it every day and every where, both in the human kingdoms and animal kingdoms.

Because of Our Stain.

This Stain will be 5480 years old on December the Tenth of this year, two thousand and seven, in the year of Our Lord, Jesus Christ, for all, on a worldwide level, though their religions are different and many, they all know in generality. The core of our Histories, more or less, has always been focused around the Mediterranean, where we are also watchful for the histories of Egypt because of their great monuments left behind for us to witness and their records in temples of worship. Many have asked and still debate the great mystery of the Pyramids and the Wisdom of yesterdays Scholars, and why it is that we only know the history of Egypt to roughly 3100.bC to a time of a First Pharaoh, and what are the mysteries of earlier Pharaohs, like Narmer, or Scorpion King and hints of other preceding Pharaohs. Pharaohs, who reach the day of light to 4000.bC from the provenance of the Palermo Stone which I believe was “broken” on purpose to hide older facts of our Histories, especially around 3500.bC, or before Christ. The Bronze Age is capped around this time also, and the rest of the Mediterranean doesn’t seem to “wake up” until after 2000.bC, By 1000 aD, most of the Western knowledge was altered and hidden to favor the East.

In All, part of the great 5500 year suppression of Ages which all changed when they abandoned Our True God, who is Father.

But who can say, who is Father? What evidence can they sustain to convince us of Father other than words of hope and wisdom?

Who can say whose religion is proper when God has anger with 7 Churches that are in Asia?

For this reason, their very own revelations shall be revealed unto themselves, for to alter God’s name is a revelation unto thyself of thine own doings as it has been for 5480 years. For which reason they changed your calendar to Zero and glorified themselves with riches and have hidden the truth from amongst our selves to gain the promise of the “broken one” as they have glorified themselves with our true hidden knowledge.

For this reason the Library of Alexandria fell to Pergamon where they themselves say the seat of their abomination also resides near the perch of The Ark by Mt Ararat. Strange, for the Ark has been perched for at least 5000 years also, or since the First Pharaoh as you know him, Pharaoh Menes. You know Menes, but you don’t know the Secret of Mn, which is part of a Royal Family of Wisdom and Time.

Nor do you know the Secret of our True Histories as Atlanteans, because our truth bears no academic standing in our schools of wisdom, if you can call them such things for all their falsities mediated by families of Zero. So, to tell a Great Lie, is Great Truth, such as to portray Atlantis as a mystical underwater Disney movie, is burnt into the deepest neuro-logic memory banks of our minds. Such as spending money or slaying our neighbors for crazed manias of distorted beliefs and hidden rages brought on through thought control which evolves into our maturities and family functions.

In other words, gross injustice and negligence upon ourselves through medias of corruption to the level of accepted tolerance and disfunction.

So, in truth, we are innocent as to why, but not as to have known why and still do.

Part of this corruption is also bred on purpose to distort forms of gain, such as religions, God or personal growth or our true histories. A prime example is we often see Crosses, God, Jesus Christ, Bibles and other religious purposes portrayed along side evils on our televisions, such as the The Excorcist and Linda Blair when she was a child of 13 years of age for her demented movie role. Again, focus is on Corruptive Power where the mentality of God and religions reaches a point of rejection because they themselves, the followers of Zero, blame God for our injustices and misfortunes and label him a murderer to have wiped out our Earth by a Great flood for his resentment of us. Or, Priests, Bibles and God, will end up harming us with a “Texas Chain Saw” or “Silence of The Lambs”.

It was not God, the reality is it was Mr. Zero, whose abomination formed from the evils of your Sins upon ourselves, just as the Purity of God forming from the goodness of your deeds upon our selves. So, every Earth like planets with humans, also have their Gods in other Galaxies where the Law of One justifies Air and Water and comfort to sustain our lively hoods. For example, most of us cannot look at a naked body without thoughts of lust if desired or detestment and embarrassment if resentful, for lack of beauty and spirituality of the complexity at hand. A good example, is that in ancient times, fat big butted goddesses, were looked upon as beautiful because they were closer to God, in ancient times, before we abandoned him for the power of Zero.

The key word is Power, because the Power of Purity or God, and the Power of Zero, were the battles of our life forces to sustain provenance of kingdom, or our Earth, which sadly we see in our medias, families and futures reflected by the power of zero. Only problem is, the the followers of Zero, who are leading our very destruction, have no Mr.Zero, to further perpetrate their cause of evil doings and puppet governments.

The reason for this is that the 5500 year suppression has seen the light of day, and the truths of ourselves and our histories has been revealed.

The benefits of this is in the message of World Peace and Prosperous Growth for All of Us, no matter where we stand on this Earth.

Religion has stood the test of time and will always stand the test of time because there is no greater glory than Spiritual growth for us to continue in our next phases of development if we preserve our very well being, that is, our Souls. This was the Tragedy of Zero to please you for your Souls so he could grow further than his 7 light years size within our very energies around us.

Imagine if we were to become that abominations energy?

That is the same purpose of those in Power, to be like the Gods. Tragic that they shall become the Gods of misfortune in the world of the grays or their souls evaporated into the bowels of Sekhmet and Orion, or Osiris and Isis if you like. Because it is to Egypt that we are thankful to know the truth of our Histories and God, and to reveal unto us this 5480 years of Suppression, that and a mysterious land known as Africa. It is to Africa that we owe it to ourselves to be thankful for the truths of our histories, to some extent. Our Scientists discover our oldest bones there, and trace our DNA roots to around the lands of Tanzania, Africa and The Old Dupai Gorge of Ethiopia. Our knowledge base has grown to a level to understand Dinosaurs or Continental plate theories, or wonderful machines that marvel our imaginations and transport us around this entire globe, or magnificent displays of human effort with our Cities or sacrifices of countless of lives for Wars of distortion and greed and false religions.

A 6000 year old war that continues to this day and terrifies our very existence

Call it systematic genocide if you like, for the purpose of the yellow race who glorifies themselves for their 100 years of breathe here on Earth.

It is also to Africa that we owe ourselves the hidden knowledge of Atlantis and Atlanteans, as it was revealed not only in Sais, Egypt around 570.bC, but also by our scholars of yesterday who memorized the Atalantean and Atarantean cultures of Africa (see Herodotus Histories).

But who is one man, to convince us of these great truths and why should we accept these truths as provenance.

Because the evidence has been collected to reveal our hidden histories and truths of not only ourselves, but of God and his grand purpose here for us all to be free of corruptions and live in peace and prosperity and to grow in a positive manner. Perhaps, when we too realize our God and return to Him as we once did prior to 3250.bC, then we too can build Pyramids with God, like our Atlantean forefathers of TA, the ancient name for our Earth, which became Atlantis or Atalantis if you prefer.

Sadly, we changed it to Earth from our Suppressions upon ourselves, for here too, evil arose out of Egypt and stained Africa, Arabia, the Levant (Phoenicia) and Phrygia. Then, it spread throughout our world by the followers of Zero. Some knowingly while others unknowingly, to support the grand purpose of broken oracles, or promises, unknown to them selves. Rich they became in the physical, but poor they become in the Spiritual. In ignorance of their selves, but not in ignorance of their perversions. True, a man may be King, or President or Wealthy in Riches, but is he wealthy in respect and rememberance? We only need to read about Croesus and Plato to understand the meaning of this.

The True meaning is what we all seek to understand.

To further the purpose of our cause, the meaning is simple for our 5500 year suppression. Without lay of blame, for lack of knowledge, this meaning in the deepest sense becomes only two.

Jesus The Christ, and Judas The Anti-Christ.

I say this in a different sense of understanding, rather than what we commonly accept because we need to understand truly the purpose of the two. Judas, we understand that he betrayed Christ who was murdered by the families of Eleazar, the black hooded priests of the 72. For here is a land where they claim self glorification to justify that Wisdom, Knowledge, our English Alphabet, God, His Son and Mr.Zero all reside? and here is the Holiest of Holies and the root of our Holy Bible, the Book of Constantine the ByZeroTine.

The root of this word is “Roma”, for they have been influencing our religions for 5500 years also with their cries of “Thou Shalt be put to Death”!! In fact, we can discover that this is 3000 years of influence for 1000.bC was when the Phoenicians reached Western Europe and Africa, and 1000.aD, was the apex of “Roma” integrations. This “Roma” is also the root of degrading Christians and Catholics alike and setting down the foundations of our beliefs today, such as we also perpetrate everything to Sanskrit or Indo-Europeans without any regard or teachings of virtue for our true histories.

Then you wonder why they also hide Linear A or Atlantis.

When the Wisdom of the West Fell, such in case as The Great Library of Alexandria, the Wisdom of The East also arose and has been manipulated and contorted for their personal gain. Such as they are known for Serpent cultures or forked tongues, which is also represented by their writings such as the chicken scratches of cuneiform for Darius or early Sumerians or The Tower of Babel and Babylon. For truly, if you you believe in them, then they shall prosper from you. Just tally up the monetary gain of The Holy Bible or claim of the God and The Holy lands.

But how are we to truly understand all this?


To read The Book of Atlanteans is more dangerous than reading the Bible.

Because, the Book of Atlanteans will reveal to you the Truth of Our Histories and not a conformed book of our legends and myths or garbled bits of scrolls accumulated to a magnificent story of misfortune, such as The Battle of Troy or The Illiad, or The Holy Bible. To study Atlanteans is to understand our World Cultures as they were and interacted until that fateful day of December 10th, 3474.bC when Zero worship transpired from Snoferu and Khufu. For this reason 150 years of Darkness fell upon Egypt and The Temples were closed, and Khufu, like his father, murdered millions. Since then, or after Pharaoh Den, the Stain of Egypt has effected us all for from Egypt it carried into Arabia and Phoenicia, Phrygia and into Europe, and today worldwide for China and Japan are also corrupted.

The Secret of The Golden Calf, or The Slaughter of The Bull, is The Greatest Sacrifice.

The Slaughter of The Son of Man, which was also portrayed again, by Jesus Christ.

Then we have to ask ourselves, was this betrayal on a par with the followers of Zero Worship?

Did their secret books of evil rights know in advance the coming of Him?

We can also view this as the secret rights who keep an eye out for Atlantis, because they know the truth of Atlantis will reveal their falsities upon us.

Jesus Christ died around Zero to our Calendars, because he was chosen.

Jesa Christ died December 10th,3474.bC at 8:08am, because he was pure.

Christ today lives because he is both impure and pure.

For this reason the Evil ones didn’t see his coming and missed their opportune to revive Zero.

Because Christ today, has rid thee of Zero and the Evil ones will suffer the revelations.

Only the followers of Zero remain for the Wisdom of God to justify their sins of ignorance.

In part, the great concealment of those Zero worshippers will be revealed because today, they also try to tell you that the Anti-Christ, or Judas, had good intentions and was related to Christ and they fabricate false shows or papyrus to marvel the weak and monetary slaves.

The other concealment, is that God has revealed himself, His Wife, His Son, His Daughter, and His True Garden where he recreated us after our Great Disaster caused by Mr.Zero who has also been trying for 5480 years to attain the Soul of His Son as he ascended into the Heavens with God. But now, this great entity of spiritual energy has been released by the Wisdom of God upon ourselves.

For truly I say, that I have no intentions nor purpose to perpetuate such things either amongst myself or others, but rather that these works are in fact the mysterious works of a God we once knew and abandoned. All because I gained a passion to reveal the truth preserved by Plato, because of the truth preserved by my earth father. My father’s truth was the Royal history of our Family of Mn, which so far I have traced to Queen Lenor of Portugal around the 12th century, and not actually Atlantis as some people think. Although, true in the sense of Atlantis being our old name for Earth and what our ancestors were calling themselves like we say “Humans”. True also in the sense that Menestheos is a remembered King as are Pharaoh Menes, or Atlantean King Mneseus of Sicily, Crete and The Cyclades or Minoan cultures.

Also true in the sense of Min, the Father of Egypt and true in the sense of Man and Woman.

All Secrets of the Royal Family of Mn.

Now the complexity of all this is simple if we understand that when we use the term Christ, such as it is in the word Christian, that we are in fact referring to The Blood of The Son of Man, who is the First Born Son of God, our Father. Throughout our time, which we know at least 250,000 years ago to our pinnacle of brain development, or 50,000 years ago to the height of our genetic race types or cultures, that many embodiments of The Son of Man have come and gone for us in our world histories. These, like the Great Flood stories, we preserve in our cultural legends and myths. Legends, that have been purposefully altered throughout our 5500 years of suppressions.

Legends that start with Snoferu and Khufu circa the said 2700.bC, although 885 years are missing from the reversion to Solar Calendars from Lunar when they closed the Temples and erected the new Sun Temples and the worship of Osiris, Isis and Horus based on the rising star of Sirius and Orion, which makes the Jackals and Hounds of Egypt run in fear of their shadows and howl all night long and the crocodiles are restless to fulfill their laws of Draconian malices.

Since then, systematic subjugations for this worship of Judas have effected the Nine Bows of Africa as Sesostris circa 1862.bC also slaughtered the countless throughout Libya, Arabia, The Levant and even to do battle with the Greeks with the merger of Indo-Europeans around this time, whereupon the Hyksos retaliated and also became crazed with the countless slaughters of many and subjugated Egypt in return and reverse the role of Egypt to that of Mesopotamia.

For they all came out of Egypt and circumcised themselves as Egyptians, and placed Arks on their altars as Egyptians and glorified themselves with knowledge of Egyptians, Religions and Architectural buildings. The temple of Todd in Phoenicia (Sidon, Byblos and Tyre) exemplifies this transition period as The Ramses Kings of the middle ages also unified the bond with Phoenicia and Egypt, since they have been trading from at least 3000.bC. When the Phoenicians traveled to Western Europe and Africa, they gained much knowledge and our histories where today our schools of teachings, falsely conform to us that linear b, is the father of our alphabet when in reality it is like Atlantis, the hidden Linear A or basic roots of speech and hieroglyphics.

Just as they have hidden the knowledge of Atlanteans and our True Father who is JA and His Son that they took away from him and concealed His Temple and His Holy Garden.

The answers I have for you, the wisdom to know and witness, I also have for you.

They are not fabrications nor are they desires of distortion or perversions for monetary gain. If they were, I would have kept silent like an aspiring author and published a “get rich quick” book for you all to read like the Da Vinci Code whose work had already been laid out by other authors.

Then again, you have to wonder why they made a movie for Dan Brown. Because they know how to distort your truth with lies as they do your religions and history books.

The chronological advancements of our History by Riven.

6482.bC, Great Flood and rebirth of Humans

6000.bC, Crete, Malta Civilizations and Temple Building.

5000.bC The Civilization of Egypt. The change to Barbaric Warriors.

4000.bC Minoan Thallassocracy, (rulers of the Sea-Med.)

The Height of The Tarxiens,Malta known in The Bible as Tarshish. (Pharaoh Tshsh,Palermo Stone)

3500.bC The Bronze Age and The Battle of Atlantis, 10 Fallen Kings Narmer Palette,Gebel-el-Arak Knife, Tomb 100 map, Dragon Claw Orbis Ships, Chariots. Possible construction of Atlantean Twin Pyramids and Lions upon Egypt, just prior.

StoneHenge Erected, England.

3240.bC. The "NEW UNIFIED" Egypt of Pharaoh Menes (aka Narmer)
Respected of The Atlanteans who he also respected...JA and Atlantean Philosophy of Thoth, perhaps upto DEN.

Trades with Lebanon and Palestine abundant, Egyptian Ships Sail.

Sais and Buto Priesthoods of Tatenen.

2500.bC. The Trismegistus of Khufu from Snofru's Blood of Brine.
.........Philitis The Good Shepherd upon Egypt
.........The Oracle of The Prodigal Child not of the Blood of Khufu.
.........150 years of Darkness fall upon Egypt.

2000.bC. The poison of thou "Shalt be put to death" inflicted upon the lands by Egypt and Phoenicia from The Blood of Brine.

1862.bC Sesostris II Subjugates Europe and Phoenicia.

1700.bC, Hyksos retaliate (Greek name) for Shepherd Assyrio-Palestines of Ecbatana, perhaps.
Ecbatana has knowledge of Atlantis.

Battle of Ares Titans; Etruscan Atlanteans vs Greek Olympians

1500.bC Supposed Flood of Deukalion compares to 2600.bC Gilgamesh epic.

1500.bC. The Forked Tongue of Egypt and The Ramses Kings continue the "Poison" and merge bloodlines with Persia.

Zeus, Hera and Poseidon replace Jove, Juno and Neptune.
"Egytpian" King Belus.

1200.bC Mycenaeans launch Aechean Attack on Troia. (Agamemnon and Menelaus)

1190.bC Sea People pirates from Troia Battle launch attack upon Egypt, great time of depression throughout entire Mediterranean.

Phoenicians spread throughout Europa and North Africa.

1000.bC Etruscan Thallassocracy, Carthage and Latins.

Greeks "terrified" to sail the Tyrhennian Mare until Massilliots ca 600.bC.

Muslim/Islamic Invasions-"thou shalt be put to death".

Fez Caps in Morocco.

Greeks forget Ancient History ca 800.bC.

Gades, Carthage, Tartessos, powerhouses of the Balearics.

700.bC, The Seven Hills of Rome, the Great Western "PUSHBACK" to preserve Christianity and Europa's History.

600.bC Solon Archonship at Athens.

570.bC Fate of Egyptian extinction leads to Saitic Head Priest, Uadjahor-Resne revealing the Truth of Solon and Atlantis.

332.bC Alexander The Great driven by Aristotle's Wand, The Bible already being Translated.

Great Library of Alexandria constructed in Egypt.

30.bC Great Roman Emperor, Augustus.

0 - Birth of Christ "according" to Constantine Bishops and The Bible's reformation of a Unified Religion with Phoenicia.

330.aD, Constantine Niceane Creed "reforms" religion and The Bible,joining East with West.

350.aD, Chalcidius preserves Plato's work Timaeus from Greek into Latin, no record of Chalcidius for Critias.

(My research is indicative that Chalcidius could have been St. Augustine)

413.aD, Hypatia the Neo-Platonist Murdered.

Fall of Alexandria, Fall of Wisdom.

800.aD. Irish Monk preserves Timaeus by Chalcidius.

1150.aD Ken Digby preserves Timaeus by Chalcidius (MS Digby 23) bound with "The Song of Roland" -Normandy.

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 03:22 AM
reply to post by AeJor_Mn

Quite long, but very interesting and useful as a base for further research.

The book of the Atlanteans and Constantine, huh?

I'll check 'em out. Thanks

Great timeline.

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 04:53 AM
Your Welcome Sandwiches.

To Know Is Immortal


Lux of Ipse

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 05:17 AM
Its clearly yhwh. Read matthew chapter 3 and 4.

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 08:29 AM
gee, lucky this all happened 2000 years ago, imaging a Wife becoming pregnant out of the blue in present time.

I don't think the Husband is going to fall for the "immaculate conception" excuse somehow

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 09:55 AM
Most 5 year olds that you ask that question, can answer this question.

The OP analysis is so far gone that, it's not worth posting anything else.

posted on May, 31 2010 @ 09:41 PM
Intuitiveaptitude 2009;

It's clearly yahweh, read matthew chapters 3 and 4

Clear as mud. Read chapters 1 verse 1 and 2 verse 4.

Genesis 1:1; - In the beginning GOD created heaven and earth.
(All of Chapter 1 uses only the name God-Theos/Dei/Elohiym)

Genesis 2:4; - These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, when they were created, in the day that the LORD GOD made the heaven and the earth:
(Here they added the title of Lord to God-Kurios/Domini/yahweh/Adonay)

Greek Lord - κύριος , Kurios
Latin Lord - Domini.
Hebrew Lord - yhvh/yhwh (yahovah/yahoweh) or Adonay/Adoniyah(Ad-o-nee-yaw) (Adonai)

Greek God - Theos (θεὸς)
Latin God - Dei
Hebrew God - Elohiym (alhym)

Greek Lord God - κύριος ὁ θεὸς / kurios Theos
Latin Lord God - Domini Dei
Hebrew Lord God - yahweh Elohim (yhwh alhym)

Lord in Hebrew
3050 Yah, yaw contraction for 3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name:--Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Compare names in "-iah," "- jah."

*Here we definitely see that the Hebrews know that God's name is JA, but they do not correctly call Him JA MN for I AM or AMEN that also compares to pre-dynastic Egypt.
Rather they altered His name with this havah as ya-hovah and used it as a lesser title of Lord while they originaly called God, Elohiym. A truth and a lie mixed together.

Just like H-Avila-H for the Garden of Avila in Tansania (Eden) or as eastern Aethiopeia ,Africa was called. The name Africa evolved from Avila. (v to f and L to c / Avila > afika > afrika > africa)

3068 Yhovah yeh-ho-vaw' from 1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. Compare 3050, 3069.
3069 Yhovih yeh-ho-vee' a variation of 'Yhovah' (3068) (used after ''Adonay' (136), and pronounced by Jews as ''elohiym' (430), in order to prevent the repetition of the same sound, since they elsewhere pronounce 'Yhovah' (3068) as ''Adonay' (136)):--God.

Lord in Greek
2960. kuriakos koo-ree-ak-os' from 2962; belonging to the Lord (Jehovah or Jesus):--Lord's.
2961. kurieuo ko-ree-yoo'-o from 2962; to rule:--have dominion over, lord, be lord of, exercise lordship over.
2962. kurios koo'-ree-os from kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, i.e. (as noun) controller; by implication, Master (as a respectful title):-- God, Lord, master, Sir.

God in Hebrew
430 'elohiym el-o-heem' plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
433 'elowahh el-o'-ah; rarely (shortened) >eloahh [el-o'-ah probably prolonged (emphat.) from 410; a deity or the Deity:--God, god. See 430.

God in Greek
2316. theos, - theh'-os of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with 3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very:--X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward).

It is quite apparent that they are using only TITLES and NOT GOD's NAME in either of their words for God or Lord with the only exception of JA, and that they have no idea what God's correct Name for proper usuage is.

God's correct Name for Us to know Him by is JA MN, which is why you say AMEN after your prayers, that also means " so be it", thus further provenance that this IS God's Name for US TO KNOW AND NAME HIM BY.

Although this Is not God's REAL NAME because NO MORTAL knows His Divine Name that is preserved in Evermore.

That is why God said I AM and Jesus said AMEN,AMEN as in OH FATHER, OH FATHER.


So let it be written, so let it be done.

It's not complicated if you study history where the Hebrews appear on the scene around 1300.bC and after the Hyksos who invaded and controlled Egypt ca 1700-1500.bC.
The power center then became focused with the new Phoenicia of Tyre,Sidon and Byblos. Tyre was the first city settled from Atlanteans. (Tarxiens,Malta,Minoans)
The Ramses kings would later strengthen this bond from intermarriages between Egypt and Phoenicia. (Osiris,Isis,Horus)
The Bible is preliminary Egyptian legends mixed with Babylonian or Sumerians. (Isis with child Horus > Mary and Jesus)
That is why they don't give you the names of the Pharaohs in the Bible to cover up their lies although they know thousands of other names.
The Ark(barque) and circumcision was foremost of Egypt prior to the Hebrews.
The Atlantean Egyptians were the most advanced and best recorders of histories.
Min and Amen, who are the same, IS the foremost God of Egypt even prior to the dynasties beginning with MeNes, thus AMEN.
(cf.pre-dynastic palettes, francisco raphaele website; Min Palettes.)

JA MN is older than the Pyramids.

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posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 07:16 AM
reply to post by AeJor_Mn

In order to answer, I'll have to change your question to "who was Jesus' father."

Answer: a Roman soldier.

posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 07:20 AM
reply to post by AeJor_Mn

I think God was the father of Jesus.

Who knows?

posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 07:28 AM
reply to post by anonmoux

That poster exhibits a serious lack of understanding concerning the doctrine of the Trinity, not that I believe in the Trinity.

posted on Jun, 1 2010 @ 05:35 PM
reply to post by AeJor_Mn

Yes, and we're closer than ever. I knew i wasn't the only one

posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 04:41 PM
יְשׁוּעָה ye-shu-ah Relief 1476-L (d1) 3444
ישׁע ya-sha Rescue (V) 1476-L (V) 3467
יֶשַׁע ye-sha Rescue 1476-L (N) 3468
ישׁר ya-shar Be straight (V) 1480-L (V) 3474
יָשָׁר ya-shar Straight 1480-L (N) 3477

*From the ancient Hebrew, we can see how Jesus became known as Yeshuah in Hebrew for a name of our Savior or rescuer from the ancient name yeshuah, meaning relief.
This leaves a question in mind as to whether Jesus was His real name or simply a divine titular Name given Him by the Hebrews from the word for relief, or did the Name of Jesus provide them with a new word in yeshuah for relief or was Jesus named upon His birth by Mary from yeshuah for "Relief".

Or was His Name meant to be Rescuer and closer to Yasha or JASA that would then mean in older terms than Hebrew and in favor of the Egyptian SA for Son and JA for God as Son of God?-Riv.

That is why I use SAJARA as my main titular name meaning (SON) OF---(GOD IS KING). (God is King)
The prior Son of Man known as Philitis The Shepherd, of whom I claim was murdered like Jesus on Dec.10,3474.bC, I named Him JESA THE PURE without this knew realization of YASHA for Rescuer. This tells me that JASA is more correct and since JA-MN is God, that ALL the Sons of Men throughout the Aeons would also BE Named JASA.
(Mr.0-4-14-24(Jasa)-34(Jesus)-44-54-64-74-84-94-104) 12 cycles of 2160 years = 25,920 precessional cycle of Earth. (Zodiac=12, Jesus and 11 disciples, 1 fell).
Or 2000 years x 13 (1 missing constellation-Cassiopeia = M = Royal Crown of MN = 1 or The Foremost Constellation), would thus equal a Mr.114 and 26,000 years precessional cycle. (90 degrees west of the big dipper when low on the horizon at night and straight above your head-Giant M of 5 stars. = Mystery of Five = Change)
13 steps from Hades to Heaven, 6 male and 6 female planets(6 classical mythology Gods and 6 Goddesses, Jove,Juno,etc.), 13 step illuminati pyramid, 13 step mathematical computation for Pyramids. (cf; Pyramid Grid, Jiri, Petrie)

In Exodus 3, God tells Moses to tell the people of nations (Goyims), that His name is I AM. According to the ancient Hebrew, in a sense related with Our Creator God, He is also saying I of The People, thus AM and confirmation that He Created Us.
עַם am People 1358-A (N) 5971
גּוֹי goy Nation 1052-A (f) 1471

As I have explained whereupon we know the I,J and Y interchange and that the Egyptians scribed the letter J for I as in imenti for west or jmnti, that God is also saying His First Name of JA in I AM or JA AM or JA of The People. (commonly many Gods or Lords have the "AH" sound in their names like AllAH,BuddHA, AHur MazdA, MoHAmmad, YAhoweh, JehovAH, YAshuA,ShivA, Ausar,Aset(Osiris,Isis,) EA, Anu, etc, just like our Countries also contain the AH sound, africA, AmericA, AsiA, AustraliA, etc.
Or quite simply AMEN, (Min,Amon,Amun,Ammon) the oldest God of Egypt.
In another sense as if to say, ALL MEN or ALL UMANS or that ALL is of God.
Other interpretations of Amen as outlined below confirm for us aside of meaning "The Hidden One" in Egyptian, such as God Is, we see that Amen is TRUTH, so be it, and confirmation that this is also God's correct Name.
We have established AM as people, AMEN as truth or Hidden Truth, the sound of Ah for God's, Lords and Countries and why IA, JA or yA is God's First Name and why AMEN or MN is His Last Name. Research meanings in many different languages containing words with JA or MN, such as to be, exist, people, birth, father, mother, grandparents, etc, especially SAnskrit. (Mn, mind, Mnemosysne, Memory, MaN,woMaN, uMaN) Or the most widespread religion in antiquity of JAINISM prior to the bible and still preserved in India.

John 8:34; Jesus answered them: "Amen, amen, I say unto you that whosoever commits sin is the servant of sin."

Greek; - John 8:34; ἀπεκρίθη αὐτοῖς [ὁ] Ἰησοῦς: "ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πᾶς ὁ ποιῶν τὴν ἁμαρτίαν δοῦλός ἐστιν [τῆς ἁμαρτίας]."

Latin; John 8:34; Respondit eis Jesus : "Amen, amen dico vobis : quia omnis qui facit peccatum, servus est peccati."

Greek strong concordance search;
281. amen am-ane' of Hebrew origin (543); properly, firm, i.e. (figuratively) trustworthy; adverbially, surely (often as interjection, so be it):--amen, verily.

*The claim that Amen is of Hebrew origin is obviously an ignorant lie since we know that the word Amen originated in Egypt thousands of years prior to the Hebrews. To the Egyptians it meant "the Hidden One or God as scholars tell us. One should wonder why the Hebrews called Egypt Mitzraim and why Maerea was the original Atlantean Pre-Dynastic state of Lower Egypt or Mai is Lion in Egyptian or the First and Eldest Pleiade or Atlas' daughter was MAIA or MneSeus the Atlantean King. (Mayan,Minoan,Pharaoh Menes,Menestheos King of Europe,Min dynasty China)
Further provenance of MN as the correct last Name of God in JA MN or AMEN that also reasons Jesus as calling upon AMEN as His Father.
The A symbol used as an agricultural hieroglyph in Egypt has the determinative of "mr" (mur like mural) or Mer as in MereNeith or Merut for Love in Egyptian. The A also disguises the letter M, Thus JA MN or I AM or AMEN.

ἀμήν - amen (Greek)

אמן a-man Be firm (V) 1290-C (V) 539
אָמֵן a-meyn So be it 1290-C (N) 543

525 'amown aw-mone' from 539, probably in the sense of training; skilled, i.e. an architect (like 542):--one brought up.
529 'emuwn ay-moon' from 539; established, i.e. (figuratively) trusty; also (abstractly) trustworthiness:--faith(-ful), truth.
539 'aman aw-man' a primitive root; properly, to build up or support; to foster as a parent or nurse; figuratively to render (or be) firm or faithful, to trust or believe, to be permanent or quiet; morally to be true or certain; once (Isa. 30:21; interchangeable 541) to go to the right hand:--hence, assurance, believe, bring up, establish, + fail, be faithful (of long continuance, stedfast, sure, surely, trusty, verified), nurse, (-ing father), (put), trust, turn to the right.
540 'aman am-an' (Aramaic) corresponding to 539:--believe, faithful, sure.
541 'aman aw-man' denominative from 3225; to take the right hand road:--turn to the right. See 539.
542 'aman aw-mawn' from 539 (in the sense of training); an expert:--cunning workman.
543 'amen aw-mane' from 539; sure; abstract, faithfulness; adverb, truly:--Amen, so be it, truth.
544 'omen oh-men' from 539; verity:--truth.
550 'Amnown am-nohn' or uAmiynown [am-ee-nohn']; from 539; faithful; Amnon (or Aminon), a son of David:--Amnon.
to confirm, support
NASB Word Usage
believe (26), believed (11), believes (2), bringing (1), carried (1), chronic (1), confirmed (5), doorposts (1), endure (1), enduring (3), established (3), faithful (21), firm (2), fulfilled (1), guardians (3), has assurance (1), have faith (1), have...assurance (1), last (1), lasting (1), nurse (3), put your trust (2), (2), reared (1), reliable (1), stand still (1), sure (4), trust (4), trusted (1), trustworthy* (1), unreliable* (1), verified (1).

Here we see ancient Hebrew words relative to the AH sound as in JA further provenancing AM as Father of All or People.

Ancient Translit Definition AHLB# Strong's#
אָב av Father 1002-A (N) 1
אָדוֹן a-don Lord 1083-C (c) 113
אָדָם a-dam Human 1082-C (N) 120
אֳדָמָה a-da-mah Ground 1082-C (N1) 127
אֶדֶן e-den Footing 1083-C (N) 134 (wonder who's foot they wanted to plant in the garden of our knowledge? Serpent tempted Eve-El? Wicca Pedia?)
אֲדוֹנָי a-do-nai Lord 1083-C (N) 136
אהב a-hav Love (V) 1094-C (V) 157
אַהֳבָח a-ha-vah Love 1094-C (N) 160
אָח ahh Brother 1008-A (N) 251
אָחוֹת a-hhot Sister 1008-A (N3) 269

Israel's Veil of Isis.

Let's look at this name of Israel, why it has a hexagonal star (demon portal) formed by two pyramids, one upright, one inverted(ruined) of 6 points and why Israel also can be rearranged into rasiel or raZAel the demon or king satan lord(ra-ZA-el). Za was Zatan or Satan. (Zathanel HatuptaH) ZAionists = Satan's Servants.
A Coffin is also a hexagram or 6 sided.
(Also in John chapter 8 when the Judaens,Pharisees or Hebrews claim they have never been a slave to man, is entirely a lie as Jesus also says that they are of a devil and the father of lies thereof (abra-H-am). This we know not only from the Exodus when they were slaves to Pharaoh but also that their God yahweh himself says "If you purchase a Hebrew as your servant", after 7 years he shall be released with what he came with."
(cf.Aleister Crowley, occultic satanist, Ritual of The Pentagram that evokes a hexagonal field demon portal or Freemason Hermaphrodite worship > Veil of Isis)

We realize that the bible and the hebrews, aside of primarily theft of Egyptian writings, also contains the beliefs of their "devil" father Abra-H-am or the Baals of Babylon or Sumer. (Ur) BA = BAD SPIRIT, AL = SUN = Bad Sun Spirit = FIRE, lucifer, etc of BA EL as in Bad Spirit Lord. (demon Bas or Bes of Egyptians)

Where does the Zionist name Israel that has the hebrew pronounciation of Ishrael come from? (ish also means blemished)

According to the Bible, Jacob is renamed Israel after successfully wrestling with an angel of God.

That's a good one! Why would a man supposedly of God be wrestling with an Angel of God? Was that man a possession of evil worthy of fighting with God's Angels?
What symbolism should we derive from this meaning? Was the Angel trying to rid Jacob of Evil, and if Jacob and the Angel came to a stalemate, why did yahweh change his name to Is-H-rael just like he changed Abraam to Abra-H-am? (Bear in mind that Jacobs family members wiped out an entire village simply because his daughter fell in love with a boy there -murderers just like said those of Abraham were. One of many occurences of the vain and evil yahowehs commands in the bible.

So is the name of Israel really a veil of Isis related to Ishtar or Ashtaroth of Babylon and in truth this Hermaphrodite worshipped by the Freemason followers of Soloman's Temple where the Dark Prince, Satan himself visited with orgies of Ob harlots and king Soloman > hence Soul of No Man or Man of The Lost and Condemned.

ishral, israel - ishr- al - ishtar sun or ishtar lord
ishmael, ish-ma-el > ishtar mother sun, lord

From Wikepedia; (Wiccan Feet )

Ishtar is a goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex.[1] In the Babylonian pantheon, she "was the divine personification of the planet Venus".[2]
(Venus = Lucifer, The Planet Venus supposedly forms a pentagram on her journey in search of her lover the planet Mars (Aries The Ram).
Mars and Venus combined(or when the planets meet up) would then equal this Hermaphrodite?

Ishtar was above all associated with sexuality: her cult involved sacred prostitution; her holy city Uruk was called the "town of the sacred courtesans"; and she herself was the "courtesan of the gods".[2] Ishtar had many lovers;
Even for the gods Ishtar's love was fatal. In her youth the goddess had loved Tammuz, god of the harvest, and — if one is to believe Gilgamesh — this love caused the death of Tammuz.[2]
Ishtar was the daughter of Sin or Anu.[2] She was particularly worshiped at Nineveh and Arbela (Erbil).[2]

(I gather we know where our word for evil in Sin comes from just like our word Bad > Babylon!)

Her symbol is an eight pointed star.[3]

( 5 is the pentragram, 6 the hexagon or demon portal (star of david) formed from Ritual of the Pentagram, 8 or Octagon would then be Satan's personal portal formed from the hexagon?
666 = Servants of Sin.
(Eight is the entwined Serpents, 33 degrees of freemasons[3's faced together] and the true number of the beast is 888.-Riv.)

One of the most famous myths[4] about Ishtar describes her descent to the underworld.(HELL, HADES).

In this myth, Ishtar approaches the gates of the underworld and demands that the gatekeeper open them:
If thou openest not the gate to let me enter,
I will break the door, I will wrench the lock,
I will smash the door-posts, I will force the doors.
I will bring up the dead to eat the living.
And the dead will outnumber the living.

The gatekeeper hurried to tell Ereshkigal, the Queen of the Underworld. Ereshkigal told the gatekeeper to let Ishtar enter, but "according to the ancient decree".
The gatekeeper lets Ishtar into the underworld, opening one gate at a time. At each gate, Ishtar has to shed one article of clothing. When she finally passes the seventh gate, she is naked. In rage, Ishtar throws herself at Ereshkigal, but Ereshkigal orders her servant Namtar to imprison Ishtar and unleash sixty diseases against her.

The HERMAPHRODITE IS CREATED; (compare False Zionist German Jews name as in Ash -ke-Nazi with Asu-shu-namir, hermaphrodite followers, freemasons, new world order = zionist masonic oligarchy or NWO = ZMO)-Riv.
(Satan the Hermaphrodite BA-ptiZes Ishtar in Hell - Naturally since they are both wHores of black Hats.)

After Ishtar descends to the underworld, all sexual activity ceases on earth. The god Papsukal reports the situation to Ea, the king of the gods. Ea creates an intersex creature called Asu-shu-namir and sends him-her to Ereshkigal, telling him-her to invoke "the name of the great gods" against her and to ask for the bag containing the waters of life. Ereshkigal is enraged when she hears Asu-shu-namir's demand, but she has to give him-her the water of life. Asu-shu-namir sprinkles Ishtar with this water, reviving her. Then Ishtar passes back through the seven gates, getting one article of clothing back at each gate, and is fully clothed as she exits the last gate.

Formerly, scholars[2][5] believed that the myth of Ishtar's descent took place after the death of Ishtar's lover, Tammuz: they thought Ishtar had gone to the underworld to rescue Tammuz. However, the discovery of a corresponding myth[6] about Inanna, the Sumerian counterpart of Ishtar, has thrown some light on the myth of Ishtar's descent, including its somewhat enigmatic ending lines. According to the Inanna myth, Inanna can only return from the underworld if she sends someone back in her place. Demons go with her to make sure she sends someone back. However, each time Inanna runs into someone, she finds him to be a friend and lets him go free. When she finally reaches her home, she finds her husband Dumuzi (Babylonian Tammuz) seated on his throne, not mourning her at all. In anger, Inanna has the demons take Dumuzi back to the underworld as her replacement.

The Epic of Gilgamesh contains an episode[8] involving Ishtar which portrays her as bad-tempered, petulant and spoiled by her father.
She asks the hero Gilgamesh to marry her, but he refuses, citing the fate that has befallen all her many lovers:

Listen to me while I tell the tale of your lovers. There was Tammuz, the lover of your youth, for him you decreed wailing, year after year. You loved the many-coloured roller, but still you struck and broke his wing [...] You have loved the lion tremendous in strength: seven pits you dug for him, and seven. You have loved the stallion magnificent in battle, and for him you decreed the whip and spur and a thong [...] You have loved the shepherd of the flock; he made meal-cake for you day after day, he killed kids for your sake. You struck and turned him into a wolf; now his own herd-boys chase him away, his own hounds worry his flanks."[9]
Angered by Gilgamesh's refusal, Ishtar goes up to heaven and complains to the high god Anu. She demands that Anu give her the Bull of Heaven. If he refuses, she warns, she will do exactly what she told the gatekeeper of the underworld she would do if he didn't let her in:

If you refuse to give me the Bull of Heaven [then] I will break in the doors of hell and smash the bolts; there will be confusion [i.e., mixing] of people, those above with those from the lower depths. I shall bring up the dead to eat food like the living; and the hosts of the dead will outnumber the living."[10]
Anu gives Ishtar the Bull of Heaven, and Ishtar sends it to attack Gilgamesh and his friend Enkidu. Gilgamesh and Enkidu kill the Bull and offer its heart to the sun-god Shamash.

While Gilgamesh and Enkidu are resting, Ishtar stands upon the walls of the city (which is Uruk) and curses Gilgamesh. Enkidu tears off the Bull's right thigh and throws it in Ishtar's face, saying, "If I could lay my hands on you, it is this I should do to you, and lash your entrails to your side."[11] Then Ishtar called together "her people, the dancing and singing girls, the prostitutes of the temple, the courtesans,"[11] and had them mourn for the Bull of Heaven.
The Masoretic pointing in the Hebrew Tanach (bible) indicate the pronunciation as ʻAštōreṯ instead of the expected ʻAštereṯ, probably because the two last syllables have here been pointed with the vowels belonging to bōšeṯ "abomination" to indicate that word should be substituted when reading. The plural form is pointed ʻAštārōṯ.

For what seems to be the use of the Hebrew plural form ʻAštārōṯ as the name of a demon, see also Astaroth.
Astarte, or ʻAštōreṯ in Hebrew, was the principal goddess of the Phoenicians, representing the productive power of nature. She was a lunar goddess and was adopted by the Egyptians as a daughter of Ra or Ptah.

In Jewish mythology, She is referred to as Ashtoreth, supposedly interpreted as a female demon of lust in Hebrew monotheism.

Throughout the Old Testament, as noted below Judges 2:13, "And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth." in the Scofield Reference Bible, instances of Ashtaroth, plural of Ashtoreth, occur, including 1 Kings 11:5, Judges 10:6, 1 Samuel 7:3-4, 12:10, 31:10, 1 Kings 11:5, 11:33, 2 Kings 23:13. Scofield suggests that Jeremiah 44:18-19 refers to Ashtoreth (obliquely) as the "queen of heaven".

אֵשׁ eysh Fire 1021-A (N) 784
אִשֶּׁה ee-sheh Fire offering 1021-H (e) 801
אִשָּׁה ee-shah Woman 2003 (b1) 802

אֵל eyl To 1104-A (N) 413

אֱלֹהִים e-lo-heem Powers 1012-H (c) 430
אֱלוֹהַּ e-lo-ah Power 1012-H (c) 433
אַלּוּף a-luph Chief 2001 (d) 441
Original Hebrew name for God as Elohim means "the powerful one", again verifies a title and not a real name.

אֱנוֹשׁ e-nosh Person 2003 (c) 582 (what does that say for Enoch of the bible? A person with no real name?)

אָלָה a-lah Oath 1012-A (N1) 423
עלה a-lah Go up (V) 1357-H (V) 5927
עֹלָה o-lah Rising 1357-J (N1) 5930
Allah simply means "the most high", again not a real name for God but a mere title.

אֲרוֹן a-ron Box 1020-H (j) 727 ( so arron means a box? wonder what's in the darkness of the box?)

בְּהֵמָה be-hey-mah Beast 1036-G (N1) 929 (Our word behemoth comes from)
שְׁאוֹל she-ol Underworld 1472-D (c) 7585 (Our word Hell comes from. Wonder why she is in there? Ishtar?)
אֹהֶל o-hel Tent 1104-C (g) 168 (So Hell is a Tent that covers the damned?)
שָׂטָן sa-tan Opponent 2475 (N) 7854 (Za, or the Fallen Son was Satan, hence ZAionist murderers)
זבח za-vahh Sacrifice (V) 2117 (V) 2076 (worshipping satan is sacrificing your soul and rebirth)
זָהָב za-hav Gold 1140-G (N) 2091(guess we know why they love gold so much)
זָכָר za-khar Male 2121 (N) 2145
זנה za-nah Be a whore (V) 1152-H (V) 2181
זרע za-ra Sow (V) 2137 (V) 2232 (sow satans seeds-zera-, sow = pig)
זָקֵן za-qeyn Beard 2132 (N) 2205 (laziness, snot/puke catcher,flies,lice,mites, filth, hence to tie a beard is symbolic of refraining from evil)
עוף uph Fly (V) 1362-J (V) 5774
עוֹף oph Flyer 1362-J (N) 5775 (ophir, phanes, demons, angels)

Ya-HweH. (H is Satan's brandmark = 8)
אָוֶן a-ven Vanity 1014-J (N) 205
איב a-yav Be hostile (V) 1002-M (V) 341
אבד a-vad Perish (V) 1027-C (V) 6
אבה a-vah Consent (V) 1028-C (V) 14
אבל a-val Mourn (V) 1035-C (V) 56
הֶבֶל he-vel Vanity 1035-F (N) 1892

Yahweh himself tells moses that he is a jealous god. No need to mention his ruins, destructions and corrupted ideologies of murder or blood thirsty sacrifices.
Yahweh even promised with his rainbow that he would never destroy or murder mankind again, and what does he do right after his promise? Wipes out sodomn and gommorha and murders everyone.

Satan in disguise as "god to become", so it thought, eh ZAionist Freemasons?

If Goyims means people of nations and those ZAionist teachings of hatred and murder detest goyims, then what are they to be unlike people?

ZAyims, servants of Satan, non - humans destined for the Pit of The Calling In Kenya where satan perished as the satellite photos clearly show in Google Earth.

Little lengthy but well worth your knowledge to be immortal.

Lux of Ipse.


[edit on 3-6-2010 by AeJor_Mn]

posted on Jun, 2 2010 @ 05:05 PM
Well, this is laughable bunk!

Jesus' father is God.

The Hebrew for God is derived from the statement from the burning bush where God states himself to be "I am what I am" so all this Yahweh stuff is nonsense.

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 08:34 AM

off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 09:48 AM
Esau, the Egyptian name for Jesus means son of Isis. Isis was the mother of Horus, remember? Cleopatra referred to herself as Isis the virgin goddess. Jesus is from the Root of David so his line dates back through Moses to Solomon. Julius Caesar was a roman dictator that declared himself a God. Caesarion, his only child and heir to the crown co-ruled after Caesars death until the age of 17 when he was exiled and travelled with his adopted parents by the name of Esau travelled to India and was taken into a monastary. This was first documented by Nickolas Notovich then his tale was later told and confirmed by others and the full text of Nicholas's book can be read by purchasing "The Lost Years of Jesus" Prophet fails to notice the connection betewen Jesus and royals, but does conclude that Jesus was a world teacher and a messiah as in the meaning "annointed one" but not the son of God he is revealed as a world teacher. Prophet was obviously struggling with and questioning her faith at this point, but since she has numerous books about religious topics and is a religious author, she only took her conclusions so far, predictable. Yet she dropped a bomb shell on christ.

After Julius Caesars death, Cleopatra had three more children with Mark Antony. Two are twins, they are depicted as gemini twins in paintings along with the virgin Mary.

Also in some of these paintings you will see that Mary is holding a sceptor and sits atop a chair very similar to the one chair that holds the Stone of Scone by the Royal Family of England. You can find some very similar real life images of the Queen of England today.

So in review.

Caesar called himself God.
Jesus called himslef the son of GOD.
Caeasarion was called the King of Kings
Jesus was called the King of Kings

Here are more examples of Egyptian royal names relative to Caesarion.

Egyptian names

In addition to his Greek name and nicknames, Caesarion also had a full set of royal names in the Egyptian language:
Iwapanetjer entynehem
These are usually translated as:
"Heir of the God who saves"
"Chosen of Ptah"
"Carrying out the rule of Ra" or "Sun of Righteousness"
"Living Image of Amun"[1]

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:00 AM
Let's pretend that the body of Jesus Christ had been discovered.

Would they Vatican try to cover this up?

Yes, because an autopsy woul most likely reveal that he had no special powers and was the only child of Caesar and the church would fall.

There is a book and movie called "The Body" consider what would happen if the truth was revealed to the rest of the world.

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Shine71
Its better to keep the topic "short and sweet". So, since jesus is man made, and anything that is written of a god is obviously man made, (and full of absurd nonsense and contradictions at best) the father of them both is MAN. Why complicate the matter and spend all that time typing? It really is this simple!

Jesus is not man made. There are over 16 ancient "non-Christian" sources for Jesus Christ.

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Naeem82
Jesus parents were nephilim, this much I am sure of. Trying to get info on it is more difficult.

Jesus parents weren't nephilim. God destroyed the nephilim off the earth because satan was trying to taint the blood line of the Jews so Jesus wouldn't be born.

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Shine71
Based on the numerous other "jesus" characters that were simply mythical creations of earlier civilizations, I wouldnt feel confident at all claiming that such a historical man did even exist. Plus the fact that we do not even have any REAL actual proof of this miracle worker despite him being something that nearly everyone would want to write about or make a record of. But nothing exists! But we do have LOTS of SIMILAR mythical characters just like jesus. So at best jesus would have to be a copy.

On the contrary. The devil counterfeits what is real. Like I said before, there are over 16 ancient "non-Christian" sources for Christ.

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Shine71
reply to post by jagdflieger

I thought this was discussed here several times already?

How about the Egyptian character named Horus. That should keep you busy for hours and hours, perhaps days. He alone shares nearly 200 UNIQUE similarities with Jesus. When you are done with Horus, let me know and I will continue giving you many more. I can keep you busy for months. Have fun!

Is the Jesus myth real?

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