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The sinking of the Cheonan: Another Gulf of Tonkin incident

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posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:36 PM
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The sinking of the Cheonan: Another Gulf of Tonkin incident


www.pslweb.org


While the South Korean government announced on May 20 that it has overwhelming evidence that one of its warships was sunk by a torpedo fired by a North Korean submarine, there is, in fact, no direct link between North Korea and the sunken ship. And it seems very unlikely that North Korea had anything to do with it.

That’s not my conclusion. It’s the conclusion of Won See-hoon, director of South Korea’s National Intelligence. Won told a South Korean parliamentary committee in early April...
(visit the link for the full news article)


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[edit on 27-5-2010 by 12m8keall2c]




posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:36 PM
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Now this came from the Party for Socialism and Liberation, not something I align myself with, but in the interest of both sides of a debate I thought it would be fitting. We deny ignorance, correct? So I see it fitting. Take it how you will. The article also list's it's sources at the bottom of the article, something you rarely see these days.

I just don't want to see another war, or have to fight in it. But that seems to be the way of America. If China keeps buying up resources with a failing dollar, I am sure D.C. see's that as a potential threat. So instead of staying out of it, we naturally jump right in. Did I mention RAND is currently seeking military contracts in SK. This just stinks to me. Any way you look at it.

www.pslweb.org
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:44 PM
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Well the proof will be in the pudding. If this simply fades away then it was probably real. However if there is actually war this time then we know it was wanted as both sides have resisted pretty well for 55 years..



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:49 PM
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At last. The truth finally emerges. It wasn't that hard so see.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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what not another false flag attack surly not.

i've seen the proof after they recovered the reamins of the torpedo that hit the ship, all 16 feet of the drive shaft complete with propeller and not a dent in it and know that when a plane like flight 93 hits the ground nothing is left that even resembles a plane.

Has the south discovered it's being used as live bait and want nothing to do with it.

should had left some passports laying around the sea bed instead that would had done the job.

Tell you guys we need to sit this one out.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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"The United States, too, has motivations to fabricate a case against North Korea. One is to justify the continued presence, 65 years after the end of WWII, of US troops on Japanese soil. "



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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Crazy Stuff aint?

Check this for a real comspiracy head rush.


www.nwofighters.org...


ties in with the next post.

Did we lose a Sub?

Is that the Sub just spotted in the persian gulf?

Guess if we lose a sub in the next month or so the korea story could be true



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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SK said there inside sources on both sides of the border has provided them with ALL NORTH KOREAN MILITARY MANUALS AND WEAPONRY BROUCHERS..

It matched up PERFECTLY with the missile that sank the boat.

Russia is looking to see these brouchers.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:17 PM
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I hope the elites recognize how difficult it will be in this post-9/11 era to get away with any false flag attack. I'm not saying that that is the case with the SK ship, but no longer can they slip these incidents under the radar. This is due to the internet in part, for greatly facilitating the dissemination of information, but mostly due to the fact that people are watching their government. This has the added benefit of encouraging insiders to release information, because the environment is more ripe to receive it.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
SK said there inside sources on both sides of the border has provided them with ALL NORTH KOREAN MILITARY MANUALS AND WEAPONRY BROUCHERS..

It matched up PERFECTLY with the missile that sank the boat.

Russia is looking to see these brouchers.


Black Ops 101.

Get someone else's weaponry, and then use it to make it look like they did it.

Example : Buy said Torpedo from Weapon Broucher, then deploy it for ulterior purpose.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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You know I think it is interesting that a joint US-SK training mission was going on at the time. Kinda sounds like a SK 9/11. Really interesting article, thanks for sharing info!



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
SK said there inside sources on both sides of the border has provided them with ALL NORTH KOREAN MILITARY MANUALS AND WEAPONRY BROUCHERS..

It matched up PERFECTLY with the missile that sank the boat.

Russia is looking to see these brouchers.


Torpedo or missile? I can see a torpedo being a missile, but was it a missile? Also, on Alex Jones' site he makes claims that the torpedo does not match the blueprinted schematics for the NK torpedo. I found some U.S. torpedoes that look similar towards the rear propeller assemble and guiding fins... just saying.
Torpedo



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
SK said there inside sources on both sides of the border has provided them with ALL NORTH KOREAN MILITARY MANUALS AND WEAPONRY BROUCHERS..

It matched up PERFECTLY with the missile that sank the boat.

Russia is looking to see these brouchers.


Black Ops 101.

Get someone else's weaponry, and then use it to make it look like they did it.

Example : Buy said Torpedo from Weapon Broucher, then deploy it for ulterior purpose.


I totally understand you and thought of that...

I'm sure NK get's there weapons from wherever they can. Germany.. Russia.. Whomever.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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The obvious test we see a sub lost at sea over the next while....
The whole thing makes more sense in light of the article thats for surre...
NK actually made a bid to be in on the investigation which seems wierd in itself...
Id be willing to give 2 to one the nks didnt have squat to do with the whole thing....
Ifind it hard to even believe that much of a torpedo full of explosives would survive the blast....
much less be located so quickly and handily from what ive heard lying under one of the ships halves.....
That seems wierd also considering the two halves drifted some 6 k from each other ....before sinking separately.....
howd the spent torpedo manage to drift identically with one piece of the hull? Was it stuck through the plating kinda and just fell out as the ship went down landing exactly under the hull where it wass located when they raised it....sheesh like the magic bullet trip.....



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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You know when we throw grenades or after seeing a bomb hit, artillery, really anything, there is nothing left. So to say that they found a piece from where the ship was hit is ludicrous in my opinion. If it was a blast like they say, that torpedo would have been in a few more pieces I would venture to imagine. It looks more like a dummy torpedo after it hit its target with some charring. Who's to not say that maybe the ship had some on board torpedoes and that the one we saw wasn't one that was on board? That seems more likely to me. Again this stinks IMO. We have been looking for a reason to do something to NK and now we have it. Just like the Middle East.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 04:31 AM
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The article was removed ???



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 04:52 AM
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I really can not see the sinking itself as a false flag.. but the timing of the report that coinciding with the destablisation of the EuroZone is what really smells fishy to me..

More smoke and mirrors to cover the cracks of the failing gobal economy.. if the Eurozone picks up and this dies down then as far as I am concerned the smoke and mirrors worked.

If we end up in a conflict then IMHO it's becuase they can not contain any next economic crash.. and any next economic crash will bring about much higher levels of hardship/famine than already exists in countries like North Korea.

Millions dying in war or starvation while the rich get richer simply does not sit well with me.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by UFORacer56
You know when we throw grenades or after seeing a bomb hit, artillery, really anything, there is nothing left. So to say that they found a piece from where the ship was hit is ludicrous in my opinion. If it was a blast like they say, that torpedo would have been in a few more pieces I would venture to imagine. It looks more like a dummy torpedo after it hit its target with some charring. Who's to not say that maybe the ship had some on board torpedoes and that the one we saw wasn't one that was on board? That seems more likely to me. Again this stinks IMO. We have been looking for a reason to do something to NK and now we have it. Just like the Middle East.


A couple things. After an explosion there are plenty of pieces left. Bombs have been almost completely reassembled. In the Oklahoma City bombing, the truck that was used, was identified by part of the axel that survived the explosion.

If this torpedo had a shaped charge warhead, it is entirely possible for most of the torpedo to have survived. The explosion's force would have been focused on the ship's hull, not on the torpedo.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by UFORacer56
You know when we throw grenades or after seeing a bomb hit, artillery, really anything, there is nothing left. So to say that they found a piece from where the ship was hit is ludicrous in my opinion. If it was a blast like they say, that torpedo would have been in a few more pieces I would venture to imagine. It looks more like a dummy torpedo after it hit its target with some charring. Who's to not say that maybe the ship had some on board torpedoes and that the one we saw wasn't one that was on board? That seems more likely to me. Again this stinks IMO. We have been looking for a reason to do something to NK and now we have it. Just like the Middle East.


A couple things. After an explosion there are plenty of pieces left. Bombs have been almost completely reassembled. In the Oklahoma City bombing, the truck that was used, was identified by part of the axel that survived the explosion.

If this torpedo had a shaped charge warhead, it is entirely possible for most of the torpedo to have survived. The explosion's force would have been focused on the ship's hull, not on the torpedo.



posted on May, 28 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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