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Stalin 'blocked two Soviet plans to kill Hitler over fears Western powers would make peace with the

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posted on May, 27 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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Josef Stalin blocked two attempts to kill Adolf Hitler during the Second World War, according to a Russian general.
STALIN


The Soviet dictator called off assassination attempts in 1943 and 1944 because he feared Hitler’s replacement as Nazi leader would make peace with the Western Allies.

General Anatoly Kulikov said: ‘A plan to assassinate Hitler in his bunker was developed, but Stalin suddenly cancelled it in 1943 over fears that after Hitler's death his associates would conclude a separate peace treaty with Britain and the United States.'

Hitler


Stalin hoped that by prosecuting the war until the bitter end he would be able to destroy Germany as a future threat and also gain more influence in Eastern Europe. A plan to attack Hitler's bunker in 1943 was cancelled on Stalin's orders, General Kulikov told a historical conference in Moscow.

In 1944 the Soviets again plotted to kill Hitler after a potential assassin managed to gain the trust of the Nazi leadership. A detailed assassination plan was prepared, but Stalin cancelled it again,’ General Kulikov said.

General Kulikov was Russia's Interior Minister from 1995 to 1998 under President Boris Yeltsin. He said that the Club of Military Leaders, which he heads, would include details of the assassination attempts in a forthcoming book on World War II.

Source: www.dailymail.co.uk... ut.html


Well, that says a lot about the guy (Stalin). How many people died because of these two decisions? I believe it as Russia had many spies and people pulling for them in Germany during the war.

Can you imagin what someone like Stalin-who killed his own people also or sent to the gulags/death camps- would do if they possessed weapons we have today! And Hitler. I doubt we would be here today-as we know it.

I can't wait for the book to see whatever else is forthcoming.




posted on May, 27 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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Hitler wasn't the best strategist with the Nazi army and WW2. If Hitler would've been assassinated, someone much more intelligent and decisive and mentally stable could have taken power and the United States most likely would be fascist right now.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
and the United States most likely would be fascist right now.


Last time I checked, the US was fascist..


Top down Corporatism.

[edit on 27/5/10 by Dermo]



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Thanks for the post! S&F! I agree with QuetzalcoatlAlien. Adolf had trouble getting messages
through his generals and soldiers which resulted in a chaotic forum of communication with Nazi troops. The Allies were blessed to have a lot of strong military strategies. Karl Dönitz was Adolf Hitler's successor after Hitler's death. If it would of have been sooner maybe WW2 would be very much different today.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:32 PM
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Back then the world was threatened by a crazy country with a stupid, crazy leader.

Do you think it would have been better for our world if that stupid, crazy leader was removed, and we were having to fight a crazy country with a clever, sane leader?

You could say the Allies won the war,
- or you could say Hitler's crazy decisions lost it.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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That's correct! Adolf Hitler was more popular then being a knowledgeable leader.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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Actually, it wasn't a problem with communication at all... Hitler lost WWII for the same reason that the U.S. got out of Viet Nam with it's skin barely intact. Political leaders are absolute morons when it comes to the deployment of military forces in-theater. Anyhoo, I digress...

Nothing shocks me when it comes to Stalin... Hitler's genocide may have had more to do with ethnic cleansing, but ol' Joe was a communist on a bad acid trip. His paranoia is what killed 40,000,000 of his own people.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
Hitler wasn't the best strategist with the Nazi army and WW2. If Hitler would've been assassinated, someone much more intelligent and decisive and mentally stable could have taken power and the United States most likely would be fascist right now.


In 1943 or 1944. No way. The Germans were leaning heavily on the ropes by then. They could have only fought themselves a ceasefire, not have resumed an offensive that the Allies would have lost.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:55 PM
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History does not favor Adolf Hitler and Joesph Stalin. Both knew that they could use people for any reason. I agree with you on how "Political leaders are absolute morons when it comes to the deployment of military forces in-theater."
If you ever study the Art of War then you can see how military strategies are your best weapon against the enemy.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Rest assured, Germany would have never won the war. They just didn't have the resources to maintain what it held. People will argue this point, but they lacked raw material and manpower to keep what they held.

Stalin was a strange duck. He had to watch out for his own people trying to kill him. As long as Hitler had everyone's attention, he was relatively safe. Stalin probably had this figured out.

Hitler was far from a military genius. He still had the WW1 mentality of dig in and hold against mechanized units. Worked great on his side at start of War since france and Great Britain had the same mindset. His complete lack of military knowledge worked to Allied advantage, both Russian and western powers.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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Hitler never died really, he lived somewhere else, i dont see the point in these none news subjects.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 07:38 PM
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My favorite quote from Sun Tzu is "He who is a master of difficulties does so before they arise."

The scary part is, there were four points before Normandy where, if left to their own devices, the German military could've shored up the entirety of Western Europe and left Russia as a neutral were it not for the apolitical, astrological meddling on the part of Adolph zie Wunderkind... doomed from the start by their own leadership. Sad that it couldn't have ended sooner, without the deaths of so many innocents and brave souls...



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 12:51 AM
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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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Hitler was far from a military genius. He still had the WW1 mentality of dig in and hold against mechanized units. Worked great on his side at start of War since france and Great Britain had the same mindset. His complete lack of military knowledge worked to Allied advantage, both Russian and western powers.


Not quite. The Nazis were the prototype of modern warfare with the blitzkrieg and always advancing and taking ground with using ground, air, and heavy armor, and sea units where possible all converging on the target area. That is why they rolled right over France and blew right through and around the Maginot line. You are right about one thing that Hitler was a military idiot. He pushed them too hard to fast and ignored his generals warnings and that was thier undoing. Had they not opened up a front with Russia until after they had taken over western Europe things would have likely been much different.




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