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Acorn Pimp Pleads Guilty

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posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
I think that any editing done was done so to make it look like a edited hatchet job and discredit O'Keefe.


Then you think wrong. They could not edit in new scenes to show what a lie it was without Okeefe helping them do that.


They told the truth about acorn. Good for them. Now on to the next dirt-bag that needs exposed.


That is the problem right there. Just like birthers toss legitimate complaints about Obama out the window.

Hate ACORN for all the valid reasons there are but guilty of promoting child prostitutes and smuggling in illegals for underage prostitution they are not. Unless you can prove otherwise.

It is one thing to hate someone or an organization but to pretend lies are the truth to justify it is sick. I may hate the drug dealer down the street but when I start planting kiddy porn on him to make him look worse, I kill my credibility too.

Keep saying Okeefe exposed the truth and you show that your only complaint is one based on something that was never ever ever shown to be real.




posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Nutter

Originally posted by SpectreDC
So you think journalists should be able to heavily edit video footage in order to meet their agenda's goals?

Righto, then.


Have you seen the unedited footage? Did the end result of Acorn being corrupt change?

I guess you don't think journalists "edit" their footage on a daily basis?

If you haven't seen the unedited footage, how can you make such a claim?



...I have seen the unedited footage. It's been on the news several times.

Last I remember, the people talking to them went on with the whole thing, and when they left they call the cops with ALL the details they received from them.

Hey man, I have my own problem with Acorn. But base it on fact, not on misrepresentation. When you do that, you start giving them cards to play.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
I think that any editing done was done so to make it look like a edited hatchet job and discredit O'Keefe.


Then you think wrong. They could not edit in new scenes to show what a lie it was without Okeefe helping them do that.


They told the truth about acorn. Good for them. Now on to the next dirt-bag that needs exposed.


That is the problem right there. Just like birthers toss legitimate complaints about Obama out the window.

Hate ACORN for all the valid reasons there are but guilty of promoting child prostitutes and smuggling in illegals for underage prostitution they are not. Unless you can prove otherwise.

It is one thing to hate someone or an organization but to pretend lies are the truth to justify it is sick. I may hate the drug dealer down the street but when I start planting kiddy porn on him to make him look worse, I kill my credibility too.

Keep saying Okeefe exposed the truth and you show that your only complaint is one based on something that was never ever ever shown to be real.



Whatever. What it boils down to with you is you want badly to believe it so you do. How weak is that?

I've seen the footage, there was no editing and they were caught red handed. He and Hanna Giles exposed the truth.

You have an aversion to the truth because of your ideology and you really need to self examine and question your motives.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by SpectreDC
Last I remember, the people talking to them went on with the whole thing, and when they left they call the cops with ALL the details they received from them.


How do you know this from the unedited footage since they had left?

If true, why didn't Acorn use this defense when the story first broke instead of firing everyone?


Stuart Katzenberg, lead organizer for ACORN's Maryland chapter, told the Baltimore Sun that both ACORN employees were fired because they "did not meet ACORN's standards of professionalism."


www.cnn.com...

[edit on 27-5-2010 by Nutter]



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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Do you really think what those women said was a product of editing? Those two women said exactly what we heard and saw. Don't get it twisted.

Hopefully he will not let this stop him from doing what he does.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
I think that any editing done was done so to make it look like a edited hatchet job and discredit O'Keefe.


Then you think wrong. They could not edit in new scenes to show what a lie it was without Okeefe helping them do that.


They told the truth about acorn. Good for them. Now on to the next dirt-bag that needs exposed.


That is the problem right there. Just like birthers toss legitimate complaints about Obama out the window.

Hate ACORN for all the valid reasons there are but guilty of promoting child prostitutes and smuggling in illegals for underage prostitution they are not. Unless you can prove otherwise.

It is one thing to hate someone or an organization but to pretend lies are the truth to justify it is sick. I may hate the drug dealer down the street but when I start planting kiddy porn on him to make him look worse, I kill my credibility too.

Keep saying Okeefe exposed the truth and you show that your only complaint is one based on something that was never ever ever shown to be real.



Whatever. What it boils down to with you is you want badly to believe it so you do. How weak is that?
I've seen the footage, there was no editing and they were caught red handed. He and Hanna Giles exposed the truth.

You have an aversion to the truth because of your ideology and you really need to self examine and question your motives.


You believe that a video was edited to make it look like it was edited, in order to discredit O Keefe, based on nothing but speculation and your hatred of acorn. You're going to have to provide some sort of proof here.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Digital_Reality
reply to post by SpectreDC
 


Do you really think what those women said was a product of editing? Those two women said exactly what we heard and saw. Don't get it twisted.

Hopefully he will not let this stop him from doing what he does.



I hope not either. If he gets into trouble again I'll definitely contribute to his defense fund if I can. We need more investigative journalists like him.

I don't care if they resort to guerrilla tactics as long as the truth gets out there.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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You believe that a video was edited to make it look like it was edited, in order to discredit O Keefe, based on nothing but speculation and your hatred of acorn. You're going to have to provide some sort of proof here.


How is that any different from the claim that it was edited by Okeefe?

C'mon man, think it through before you touch your keyboard.








[edit on 27-5-2010 by Thirty_Foot_Smurf]



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by Nutter

Originally posted by SpectreDC
So you think journalists should be able to heavily edit video footage in order to meet their agenda's goals?

Righto, then.


Have you seen the unedited footage? Did the end result of Acorn being corrupt change?

I guess you don't think journalists "edit" their footage on a daily basis?

If you haven't seen the unedited footage, how can you make such a claim?



...I have seen the unedited footage. It's been on the news several times.

Last I remember, the people talking to them went on with the whole thing, and when they left they call the cops with ALL the details they received from them.

Hey man, I have my own problem with Acorn. But base it on fact, not on misrepresentation. When you do that, you start giving them cards to play.



They sure knew all of the inns and outs of breaking the law on the video though. They sounded well versed in how to play the system. Maybe they were scared they were caught and played the role like they were taught.

Anyway I hope he returns to his work like I said before.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Nutter

Originally posted by SpectreDC
Last I remember, the people talking to them went on with the whole thing, and when they left they call the cops with ALL the details they received from them.


How do you know this from the unedited footage since they had left?


From the police call they made and the Acorn security cameras.


If true, why didn't Acorn use this defense when the story first broke instead of firing everyone?

Because in the court of public opinion, they were already seen as guilty, and in truth Acorn didn't know whether what they said was true or not either. I thought it was, until it was revealed the whole thing was faked.



Originally posted by Digital_Reality
reply to post by SpectreDC
 


Do you really think what those women said was a product of editing? Those two women said exactly what we heard and saw. Don't get it twisted.

Hopefully he will not let this stop him from doing what he does.





posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by technical difficulties
based on nothing but speculation and your hatred of acorn.


I just want to say:

I have no hatred for Acorn. They have done many wonderful things in their lifetime as a company. It's corruption that I hate.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
Whatever. What it boils down to with you is you want badly to believe it so you do. How weak is that?


What do I want to believe so badly? Please explain.


I've seen the footage, there was no editing and they were caught red handed. He and Hanna Giles exposed the truth.


Then you have not bothered to watch the rest of the footage or pay attention to the record of the police report filed the moment they left the office?


You have an aversion to the truth because of your ideology and you really need to self examine and question your motives.


What is my ideology? Please explain. I am not defending ACORN as an organization in any manner. I am simply pointing out that the people you call heroes are proven liars. They edited the footage to make it look like they got help setting up underage prostitution rings. THE UNEDITED FULL LENGTH VERSION shows otherwise. Please explain how they edited more footage in to change the narrative. Explain the police report.

You just hate so much you want to believe ANYTHING.

Your problem with me is that I have not let hatred make me a gullible moron like you seem to want me to be.

You have obviously not watched the entire video.

They are were never found guilty of any of the things those tapes portrayed.

WHY IS THAT?

Like I said, when you toss out legit reasons to hate something, you lose all credibility in your complaint against them.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Nutter

How do you know this from the unedited footage since they had left?


The unedited footage clearly shows an entirely different conversation being held than the one you saw on FOX news. Watch it and see for yourself.


If true, why didn't Acorn use this defense when the story first broke instead of firing everyone?


What makes you think ACORN had the unedited footage? These people were all over the news making ACORN look bad, they had to do something. ACORN DID NOT HAVE THAT FOOTAGE.

Watch it and tell us it does not show severe deception.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:40 AM
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posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Nutter

How do you know this from the unedited footage since they had left?


The unedited footage clearly shows an entirely different conversation being held than the one you saw on FOX news. Watch it and see for yourself.


If true, why didn't Acorn use this defense when the story first broke instead of firing everyone?


What makes you think ACORN had the unedited footage? These people were all over the news making ACORN look bad, they had to do something. ACORN DID NOT HAVE THAT FOOTAGE.

Watch it and tell us it does not show severe deception.


I wouldn't try

these people care [snip]all about reality if it does not support their construct


Mod edit- Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 27-5-2010 by elevatedone]



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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A little tip to the ever so observant Rachel Maddow. The fur pullover HAD NO SLEEVES!!!! What a friggin IDIOT she is.

Also, I have video proof that Rachel Maddow is really Richard Maddow and I'm going to go live with it soon.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
reply to post by SpectreDC
 





A little tip to the ever so observant Rachel Maddow. The fur pullover HAD NO SLEEVES!!!! What a friggin IDIOT she is.

Also, I have video proof that Rachel Maddow is really Richard Maddow and I'm going to go live with it soon.


Hell ya!!!

I live and hollywood and that little feller looks SO MUCH LIKE A PIMP its AMAZING

I quiver at the sight of his pimpdom, he would fool Snoop


That video makes it clear - Those corrupt Acorn people



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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A little insight into O'Keefe's motives with ACORN:



From the New York Times: James O’Keefe, one of the two filmmakers, said he went after ACORN because it registers minorities likely to vote against Republicans: ”Politicians are getting elected single-handedly due to this organization,” O’Keefe told The Washington Post. ”No one was holding this organization accountable.”


He's no white knight. It's all just politics.



posted on May, 27 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
Whatever. What it boils down to with you is you want badly to believe it so you do. How weak is that?


What do I want to believe so badly? Please explain.


I've seen the footage, there was no editing and they were caught red handed. He and Hanna Giles exposed the truth.


Then you have not bothered to watch the rest of the footage or pay attention to the record of the police report filed the moment they left the office?


You have an aversion to the truth because of your ideology and you really need to self examine and question your motives.


What is my ideology? Please explain. I am not defending ACORN as an organization in any manner. I am simply pointing out that the people you call heroes are proven liars. They edited the footage to make it look like they got help setting up underage prostitution rings. THE UNEDITED FULL LENGTH VERSION shows otherwise. Please explain how they edited more footage in to change the narrative. Explain the police report.

You just hate so much you want to believe ANYTHING.

Your problem with me is that I have not let hatred make me a gullible moron like you seem to want me to be.

You have obviously not watched the entire video.

They are were never found guilty of any of the things those tapes portrayed.

WHY IS THAT?

Like I said, when you toss out legit reasons to hate something, you lose all credibility in your complaint against them.



Really? You're that thick? Its the crux of of what I said. You want to believe that O'keefe edited it for a hatchet job on Acorn because of your ideology. How else can I say it? Dont tell me your not defending Acorn when you are doing just that.

I've seen the unedited full length videos. You are wrong!!! Acorn was caught redhanded!!!

Why would Acorn be found guilty? This is one of Obama's favorite organizing groups.



Your Ideology, suffice it to say, is one of Orwellianly denying what is obvious. 2+2 apparently = 5 to you.

Doublethink much?

Their guilt is right there on tape for the world to see and you're like " No it isnt...... " I just cant take you serious.








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posted on May, 27 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by Thirty_Foot_Smurf
I think that any editing done was done so to make it look like a edited hatchet job and discredit O'Keefe.

They told the truth about acorn. Good for them. Now on to the next dirt-bag that needs exposed.


Your so ignorant its funny

But you have an agenda that transcends

Git the dirt bag


get a helmut

-WEAK you

[edit on 27-5-2010 by Janky Red]




The only thing my agenda transcends are lies people like you tell when you defend this douchbag POTUS and his little" organizing " groups at any cost.


Dance puppet...dance...


[edit on 27-5-2010 by Thirty_Foot_Smurf]



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