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Originally posted by sadchild01
I hope its true . Only Russia can free the world from the evil american empire.
Three Cheers for Russia
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by sadchild01
I hope its true . Only Russia can free the world from the evil american empire.
Three Cheers for Russia
Really?... The same Russia that murdered millions of it's own people?... The same Russia whose Communist evil bastards who were part of the power elite as part of the Kremlin are now in power?...
You need to pick up a freaking book and learn some history...
BTW, all the BS that is happening around the world, including in the U.S. is because Americans have been brainwashed to accept Socialist/Communist principles which have ALWAYS oppressed the people.... So keep cheering child...
Originally posted by ProUSA
Epic history fail. The USSR does not equal Russia. Research the Cold War. And as for your last little paragraph, that's just a matter of your opinion, child
New Lies for Old
In 1984, Golitsyn published the book New Lies For Old,(13) wherein he predicted the collapse of the communist bloc orchestrated from above. He warned about a long-term deception strategy designed to lull the West into a false sense of security, and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States. Among other things, Golitsyn stated:
* "The liberalization (in the Soviet Union) would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist partys role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed."
* "If (liberalization) should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated."
* "The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals would turn out to be a neutral, socialist Europe."
Angleton and Golitsyn reportedly sought the assistance of William F. Buckley, Jr. (himself once a CIA man) in writing New Lies for Old. Buckley refused but later went on to write a novel about Angleton, Spytime: The Undoing of James Jesus Angleton.[14]
[edit] The Perestroika Deception
In 1995 he published a book containing purported memoranda attributed to Golitsyn entitled The Perestroika Deception which claimed:
* "The (Soviet) strategists are concealing the secret coordination that exists and will continue between Moscow and the nationalist leaders of (the) independent republics."
* "The power of the KGB remains as great as ever... Talk of cosmetic changes in the KGB and its supervision is deliberately publicized to support the myth of democratization of the Soviet political system."
* "Scratch these new, instant Soviet democrats, anti-Communists, and nationalists who have sprouted out of nowhere, and underneath will be found secret Party members or KGB agents."
[edit] Reactions
In his book Wedge - The Secret War between the FBI and CIA (Knopf, 1994), Mark Riebling stated that of 194 predictions made in New Lies For Old, 139 had been fulfilled by 1993, 9 seemed 'clearly wrong', and the other 46 were 'not soon falsifiable'.[15]
According to Russian political scientist Yevgenia Albats, Golitsyns book New Lies for Old claimed that "as early as 1959, the KGB was working up a perestroika-type plot to manipulate foreign public opinion on a global scale. The plan was in a way inspired by the teachings of the sixth-century B.C. Chinese theoretician and military commander Sun Tsu, who said, "I will force the enemy to take our strength for weakness, and our weakness for strength, and thus will turn his strength into weakness." Albats argued that the KGB was the major beneficiary of political changes in Russia, and perhaps indeed directed Gorbachev. According to her, "one thing is certain: perestroika opened the way for the KGB to advance toward the very heart of power (in Russia)."[16]. It has been said that Mikhail Gorbachev justified his new policies as a necessary step to "hug Europe to death", and to "evict the United States from Europe". [17]
According to Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, "In 1992 I had unprecedented access to Politburo and Central Committee secret documents which have been classified, and still are even now, for 30 years. These documents show very clearly that the whole idea of turning the European common market into a federal state was agreed between the left-wing parties of Europe and Moscow as a joint project which Gorbachev in 1988-89 called our 'common European home'." (interview by The Brussels Journal, February 23, 2006).
On June 8, 1995, the British Conservative Member of Parliament Christopher Gill quoted The Perestroika Deception during a House of Commons debate, saying "It stretches credulity to its absolute bounds to think that suddenly, overnight, all those who were Communists will suddenly adopt a new philosophy and belief, with the result that everything will be different. I use this opportunity to warn the House and the country that that is not the truth" and "Every time the House approves one of these collective agreements, not least treaties agreed by the collective of the European Union, it contributes to the furtherance of the Russian strategy."[18]
According to Daniel Pipes, Golitsyn's publications "had some impact on rightist thinking in the United States",[19] including political writer Jeffrey Nyquist[20] and Joel Skousen,[21] as well as the John Birch Society.[22]
Golitsyn's views are shared by leading Czech dissident and politician Petr Cibulka, who has alleged that the 1989 Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia was staged by the communist StB secret police.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by ProUSA
Epic history fail. The USSR does not equal Russia. Research the Cold War. And as for your last little paragraph, that's just a matter of your opinion, child
Oh yeah, I forgot...they are not Communists anymore... despite the fact that the Kremlin are re-writing history again and painting Stalin as a hero, and they are brainwashing the people once again into believing what Stalin did was right...
Despite the fact that the police looted the largest human rights building in Russia and took away all the evidence which had been gathered about the atrocities committed by Stalin.. Despite the fact that journalists get murdered in Russia if they are too critical of those in power... Despite the fact that those people who have power wee once part of the Communist elites...
and of course I forgot... The worse form of dictatorship which was the cause for the murder of millions of people, and the inprisonment of millions more was suddenly stopped in a bloodless coup...
Never mind that even Gorbachev told his people not to worry about talk about Perestroika, and glasnost, that it was only for show...
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by sadchild01
I hope its true . Only Russia can free the world from the evil american empire.
Three Cheers for Russia
Really?... The same Russia that murdered millions of it's own people?... The same Russia whose Communist evil bastards who were part of the power elite as part of the Kremlin are now in power?...
You need to pick up a freaking book and learn some history...
BTW, all the BS that is happening around the world, including in the U.S. is because Americans have been brainwashed to accept Socialist/Communist principles which have ALWAYS oppressed the people.... So keep cheering child...
Originally posted by TIPoftheSPEAR
I'd like to bring up a point that I've been thinking about recently. I don't think I'm paranoid ALL the time, but I've got to admit my radars to tend to stay raised a while after hearing everybody's theories.
Anyway, if you were to take the country by force, strategically where would you hit us. I personally think it would be hard to get a foot hold on all sides....except one....I'd hit us from the Gulf of Mexico. The area has been beat up from natural disasters, now the oil spill...which is going to drive people off the coast toward other areas to seek a new lifestyle...this leaves the whole gulf coast weaker than the rest of the nation. This would be an ideal spot because you have direct access to the sea, you could gain a foothold and essentially work your way from there. We'd be vulnerable because I'm sure invasions on both coasts would be soon following. Like I said, I'd hit from the gulf near louisiana area, set up shop...everybody would focus there and have follow on invasions to either side which would force the people to fight on all sides... I'm rambling now, but I hope you get the idea. I would like to hear what you think about it....