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Will there ever be a Messiah in Judaism?

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posted on May, 29 2010 @ 06:26 PM
reply to post by NOTurTypical

What are your views on the Rabbi's comments?

posted on May, 29 2010 @ 06:40 PM
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
i already stated my view a couple times, Jews fail to differentiate 2 comings of the messiah. And i stated why I hold this, that there are both prophecies foretelling the death of the messiah, and ones stating He will rule for all eternity from the throne of David. A man cannot both die and never die, that's impossible.

Look at what Isaiah has to say about the coming messiah:

Isaiah 53:

"Isaiah 53

The Suffering Servant

1(A)Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But He was pierced through for our transgressions (sins),
He was crushed for our iniquities (sins);
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the LORD has caused the iniquity (sins) of us all
To fall on Him.
7He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10But the LORD was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
11As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities (sins).

12Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors."

now, contrast that with the NT fulfillment in the life and death of Jesus, and you have the messiah of the world.. Jesus Christ. Who came and died exactly when Daniel and Zechariah said He would, down to the very day.

Another fantastic website dealing with the fulfilled prophecies, HERE

posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:23 AM

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posted on Jun, 3 2010 @ 10:46 AM

Originally posted by ATS_RL
rev. 10 predicted a Little Book would be brought by an angel to man to finally explain God's Mystery.

Well, that book has been on earth for about a month.

God vs. Satan : Untold Story

The book is written by a gentleman with the initials RL, who is presumably also the author of the above advertising post.
I seem to remember something from Terms and Conditions about an automatic fee.

posted on Jun, 5 2010 @ 12:20 PM
I'd offer my services to them but there is a problem. I don't fit their prophesies. And I'm not Jewish.

It's hard to define crazy. Especially when it comes with a 8x10 glossy.

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