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Originally posted by wayno
I know this thread isn't about "who", but I think that men with boards is the least likely answer. I am split between aliens and our own advanced military/scientific community. Maybe its a collaboration of both.
Anyway, we should not put this discussion in that direction. That's the "go signal" for pie-throwing contests to start.
That is not my problem.
Originally posted by Raud
reply to post by atlasastro
I'm sorry, but I just can't see where you are going at.
My post are replied to the OP. They are a discussion.
Are you "debunking" as in; all CCs are man made?
I base it on the evidence. Haselhoff does not exactly give BLT a glowing reference as being definitive of evidence.
Do you base this on that there is no other explaination that you could ever accept?
Basing my opinion on the best available evidence is not what I would consider ignorance.
Isn't that what we know as "ignorance"?
Where have I said that?
Or is it just that you still think all "CC believers" also think all CCs are made by aliens?
Did I say that. It is Haselhoff that is critical of including more rigid and specific parameters into BLT's consideration of claimed radiative effects BOL's have on plant cell structures. The idea that this might raise more questions is irrelevant as the idea of the research in the first instance is to ANSWER questions. Raising more is just a consequence of that. Haselhoff seems to forget that more rigorous research could actually answer these questions and claims.
Just because "rigorous research" would bring more further questions than real answers, there is "nothing to see here"?
I am being sincere and not as hostile as it might sound.
I just really don't understand what you are trying to prove.
This is a very good find as it entails the "how" and not the "who" but eludes to it.
I like this explanation for the effect. Yes, It's a BOL, it's called the Sun. Plants are known to respond to sunlight, in fact, they tend to bend (or even straighten) toward sunlight when exposed to it (what Levengood calls seems to think is some mysterious effect (node lengthening). The plants are flattened by people (not a BOL). The BOL (the Sun) causes the plants to grow (not bend) to varying degrees as it moves across the sky. The shadowing effect of the sides of the circle (when the Sun is lower in the sky) allow the center of the circle to receive more sunlight than the edges so the center shows greater node lengthening.
Originally posted by atlasastro
If you would like to claim that some CC's are not man made, simply show me something making CC's that is not human.
Then I can included it as a real explanation that exists and not one that is assumed or imagined or injected as a possible explanation.
Is that unreasonable?
Can you help me find articles for my research?
No, we are not a research service and cannot look for articles for you, or respond to enquiries on general research issues. Ask for help at your library reference desk, or use our search facility to find articles you need.
If node elongation is the cause of the CC, how can it apply to the complex formations we see?
How does the radiative distribution of electromagnetic radiation from a point source account for this:
Clearly there is need for further research in this area which may give us additional understanding of the manner in which electromagnetic fields effect all living matter.
Originally posted by Software_Pyrate
Caution: Using the S word is very dangerous around here.(Serreda)
As I too have a secret admiration for the pulsating wave theory Serreda proposes for STS-75...
The growth that Levengood attributes to microwave radiation is natural growth caused by the plants growing toward the sunlight during the day.