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Will it be safe when we take out Iraq?

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posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 07:06 PM
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I know everyones into the current crisis with Iraq. War is looming...death and destruction is imminent.

But what is being considered about other conflicts waiting for a window of opportunity to play themselves out?

North Korea opposes South Korea and the USA (watch out for China)

India opposes Pakistan / Pakistan opposes India...did anyone say nuclear

China (the hibernating bear) is pissed over US interaction with Taiwan

Russia wants to control Chechnya at any cost

The world economy is dissolving at an alarming rate


I'm sure there are other global war scenarios which are not mentioned, but one can can see that a conflict between America and Iraq is certainly not the whole picture. Can this war be just a smoke screen to many other events waiting to manifest?

Will it be safe when we take out Iraq?

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[Edited on 3-8-2003 by deleted]




posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 07:36 PM
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Deleted,

I certainly agree with you on everything you have posted. These are very serious situations that the media seems to in large part be ignoring.

My predictions:

US vs Iraq.... long, bloody, a lot more losses on our side than we expected, and likely turn into a huge quagmire.. the rest of the mid east is likely waiting to see what happens when it kicks off, but when it does kick off, expect all freelance terrorists to take it as open season on Americans (can you say suicide bombings???)

US vs N Korea: Either the US will take out N Korea preemtively as we start with Iraq (recommended), or they will preempt us when we kick off with Iraq. Much harder and more serious enemy than Iraq, we need to commit more forces to this side than anything else. We are supported by Japan and S Korea. China at the very least will get rather nervous as it is going down on her southern border. Good chance that N Korea is acting as a front for China, which means things getting very nasty very fast...

India vs Pakistan: India wins, although at million+ losses in limited nuclear exchange. Pakistan is only hanging on at the moment because of US support/holding India back since Pakistan is providing support to US forces in Afghanistan. When Pakistan is no longer useful, we will likely turn India loose to do as they wish.

China vs US/Taiwan: Obvious confrontation, however, considering actions with North Korea, I see the US abandoning Taiwan as a causualty of war... this may be the course of action that China is expecting.

Russia vs Chechnya: Russia wins, but at high losses, similar to US involvement in Vietnam. US really doesnt care about Chechnya, and good chance that there are connections with Al Quaid/Iraq (Russia has attempted to show such connections to enable US cooperation to take Chechnya).



posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 07:51 PM
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Checnya has for the most part been defeated, as far as the issue of Taiwan would not bother loosing any sleep over that one. India and Pakistan are both US allies, and like North Korea are more interested in financial support than all out war.

As far as Iraq, a protracted war would require support from another country. As there is no other countries interested in supporting Iraq that conclusion is dubious at best.



posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 08:01 PM
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Very insightful dragonrider,

You neglected to indulge the topic of economic collapse. Is there something that you see as a stabilizing influence which would inhibit the global economy from smashing on the rocks during this fiasco of world events?

Just curious,

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posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 08:06 PM
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Toltec,

Can you answer the question:

Will it be safe when we take out Iraq?

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posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 08:45 PM
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Deleted, that depends on how you define safe and what is implied by " Will it be safe"?

As far as the conflicts you are discussing they are old news, amongst them and in reality only Korea has the potential to turn into an issue. Fact of the matter it is an issue which depends of China, being as responsible as we are about WMD (which they in fact are).

By safe do you mean that life in the US will return to conditions as it existed prior to WWII and considerably after the Civil War (Sound like a fantasy)?

The issue of what happens in Columbia is next; by far it is a less complicated matter than Iraq. It is nonetheless an issue, which needs to be addressed.

The world is an island Deleted and the United States is a part of that world. It is a world, which only needs access to recources. Once that path is clear there will be no problems with the economy.

Russia and China have destroyed their mineral wealth and in some way that needs to be replaced. Those who actually have the power to make this so. Will not engage in such a venture, unless the Earth has dealt with its personal BS.

All jokes aside Deleted 100 Trillion in assets awaits a decision (perhap even more) .

[Edited on 8-3-2003 by Toltec]



posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 10:04 PM
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Forget, China, Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan for right now, and just think Iraq. "Will it be safe when we take out Iraq?", is what you are asking, right? Well I would assume when you say, "safe" you are talking about our security. I would have to say no we won't be any more safe than we ALREADY ARE. There is not a threat from Iraq in relation to it's Military capability. That doesn't mean his Intelligence apparatus won't have a hand in our security risks and measures. Those are the real threats, the spies, defectors(spies), scientists, analysts, diplomats, and other administative groups that are in constant cooperation with the ruler, his horribleness, Saddam Hussein. Once they have been comprimised it's all over for that chapter in history. Once that chapter ends the next one begins. This next chapter is in my opinion, is going to be one of the bloodiest yet in the Arab World. The plan for 12 seperate states within the borders of Iraq, to be governed by tribal leaders that make up those 12 tribes in Iraq is totally undermining of the Kurdish and Shia dreams for a homeland. Can someone smell Afghanistan? I do. It stinks.

The worst thing is that most people don't even speak of a plan to rebuild anything but the corrupt puppet regimes they had in mind. I smell Imperialist takeover. I also smell a new holy war and the glory land in Iraq, or in our lovely administation's mind Babylon. The whole tradition and formation of our government and the goernments and monarchies of other nations are nothing but Rosicrucian creations of servitude. The worst thing is that it is ALL COVERT. SO COVERT THAT IT HAS BECOME OVERT!!!!!!! You See?



posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 11:12 PM
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I was watching Fox news with my dad , when all the sudden I heard the words " New World Order " , twice. The reporter was talking with a ambassador , and ask him if we were to go to war , do you see a New World Order in effect as a direct effect of the war? The ambassador answered yes , there could be a New World Order in effect after its all said and done . Me personally , I see this as a sign of bad things to come .


[Edited on 8-3-2003 by PeLeTi]



posted on Mar, 7 2003 @ 11:19 PM
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You neglected to indulge the topic of economic collapse. Is there something that you see as a stabilizing influence which would inhibit the global economy from smashing on the rocks during this fiasco of world events? Posted by Deleted

I don't think there is any mistake or chance at the fact that there is a current financial crisis worldwide. I believe this has been engineered as such from the very beginning.

The facts are very straightforward. A war initiates a recession/depression, esp since this is going to involve the oil economy. Recessions/depressions are VERY effective at concentrating assets in fewer hands globally (the cabal).

As the war progresses, and assets are more centralized, it expands certain well controlled and centralized industries and markets that the Cabal is already well established in. This will allow these assets to grow for the Cabal.

The war, esp if it includes high losses, serves as a wonderful distraction to keep the sheeple from looking at what is really happening.



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 05:17 AM
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Abraham Virtue,

I see your point. Good post


dragonrider,

I don't think I've come across any post from you that I disagree with. I wish my ex wife would have made as much sense.

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posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 09:05 AM
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The Plausible Scenario

US attack Iraq.
N Korea decides that they will be next and attacks US first by blowing up nukes on 30 000 soldiers stationed in Korea or on mainland.
Read that post about nukes in the Paranormal section.

US invades Korea, China jumps right in, along with Russia. Along with billion of angry Muslims.

Hell breaks loose.

And don't forget that Iraq has a 400 000 strong army.

Us has 300 000 in Iraq at the moment.

I know they are better equiped and some iraqies will flee but some, not all.

Casualties will be colossal, but news wont made a big deal out of it.

[Edited on 8-3-2003 by Tyler]



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 09:15 AM
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In general, I agree with Tyler, although I doubt that Russia will get involved to any great extent. China may get involved, depending on if NK is in fact acting as a front for them. Otherwise, China may well deliver a spanking to NK themselves, for starting so much $h@t in thier backyards.

As far as Russia goes, they are not exactly allies of China, therefore, if China does get involved, Russia would either sit it out (most likely) or be a US ally. If nothing else, Russia would likely take the opportunity of having the world eyes *off* of them to do some serious, and most likely genocidal house cleaning in Chechnya, and possibly reinsert thier influence in certain areas such as Kazakstan, the Ukraine, ect.



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 10:01 AM
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in the end i see russia coming over to our end of the pool. they have little to gain by joining in a war with north korea and/or china, and their economy stands a much better chance of recovery if they decide to cooperate with the US and EU. i think soon the EU will become the major economic player. investors in the US are always worrying about war and not war, so they have a greater tendancy to f*ck things up.

as for the NWO. yes, i agree something big is happening within the hated organisation. i have heard those three words more in the last week than the last three years, so i'm sure they'll be ready to sweep in.



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 07:51 PM
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You See???????????



posted on Mar, 8 2003 @ 08:24 PM
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Abraham Virtue,

Just out of curiosity, what do you expect of the Iraq debacle?

Are 300,000 US troops simply going to call it a day and go home?

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