Originally posted by ashanu90
reply to post by Copperflower
damn you just skimmed over the posts and didnt realy read into them much did you?
im really not that upset over the dinosaurs(i dont think that i would get along very well with them bein that many of them would have liked to eat
me), i was using that as an example, and i dont hate god for it, i dont believe in god so how could i hate him?, i do however hate, brainwashed
and i have found a little intolerance but not much to your apparent delight.
so the things i described hearing from christians didnt bug you like it does me? even if i were a christian i dont think i could stand the constant
god talk, how does that not drive a body nuts?
i was expecting a flamewar but i found something far worse......the smug know it all christians.
maybe i should have got an anti smug gas mask
[edit on 30-5-2010 by ashanu90]
See, it's that attitude that made me so frustrated with you....
Assuming I didn't read the thread, because I didn't get down into bickering over every pseudo point you made.
Think, Friend, think of how many Christians read your thread and did none of the things you anticipated in your OP.
It's the fact that this truth doesn't really matter to you that is frustrating.
I understand misguided people, and yes, I and my Christian friends are considered radicals even among our own sometimes, because of those
condescending and narrow-minded attitudes you are referring to. That is not the faith, that is not love. So we seek the love in each other,
Many Christians act like they are possessed when corrected for behaving the way you are describing. You are free to do so, we are not. We are bound
not by brainwashing, but by the debt of the Love we have received. Christians, just like other humans, are not perfect. Some receive Love from God
but respond with arrogance, just as they do to other humans. It's not a God problem, it's a self-righteous problem that goes deeper than Sunday
school, these problems walk right in the door with the Christian.
So when we remind our brothers and sisters of that, we often get a huge dose of hatred from our own, and so of course that hurts, it's wrong and no
one wants anything to do with it. It destroys the faith and drives sensitive people away.
Since some of us sorrow for that, and yearn to see the faith unpolluted by these kinds of haters, we are in total agreement with you, but you are not
able to pick up on that. That's even worse...
Have a heart, friend. Look at the thread yourself. Where are the flamers? Those that simply disagree with you, or the ones, like me and others, who
are reaching out to you in respect and love? Is that what you refer to?
I have not gotten involved in the bickering, out of respect for you and others. It will not help. I don't have a need to do it.
The truth will set you free. Christian or not. I am one, I don't claim to be perfect and am not trying to come across like that at all. Does it
make one iota of difference to you?
So I surmise that no answer will satisfy you, since you don't seem willing or able to accept anything but what you think will happen.
Don't you get that? As a Christian, it does not seem to matter what kind I am, since finding out we are not mainly like that doesn't really make
any difference in your hostile generalities.
I defend your right to be wrong or atheist or a superhero, whatever you choose, not because of Christianity as much as because we are supposed to be
The frustration you sense in my words is from never getting anything close to that from you, not as a human, or anything else.
That shows where the most harmful biases are, and it's not on my side, friend.
My point is, when you get something different and better, how come it never made a difference, all throughout this thread?
How come you don't reasonably agree that many Christians are not like that, and if they are, forgive them, if you are so much better than them.
Then your words will have weight and authority. I'm not afraid of that.
Even though you and I are polar opposites according to your beliefs, we are exactly alike in our distaste for hypocrisy.
How come that doesn't matter to you? Please realize this is a respectful question, and for once, see if your angst can be put aside to give me a
respectful response, even if it disproves your theory, one you could be happy is wrong.
If I am angry because men are scum, the knowledge that all men are NOT scum should relieve that, right?
All it takes is someone to show me that they aren't, and now I'm better. Not perfect, just better. Sometimes that has to be enough for the time
I hate to see you so offended or upset by ANYONE. If I were one of those who offended you, your words would make me sorry.
But what about those of us who aren't? Don't you care about insulting or offending them the way you wish Christians to do for you?
These are legitimate questions, and you can see that I am not hating on you nor am I proselytizing you.
So treat me the way you wish to be treated. Be as fair as you want us to be to you.
And finally, in service to you, my brother, what can I do to help with these things? I cannot police others, as it is their right to live how they
wish, right or wrong to a great extent. That would be what you complained of and I agree with that.
What can I do to help? Ask and it will be yours. My duties and my honor as a Christian are to serve you..
Serve you, get it? That is the opposite of condescension. It's called humility and it's at your disposal.
Feel free to use it to get over the insults you feel you were dealt by some of my fellows.
And forgive them. Why not?
[edit on 30-5-2010 by Copperflower]