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Canada: The Illegals are Coming Your Way.....

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posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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In response to my fellow canucks that think we should allow all of these immmigrants into Canada because we have so much work? Could you please enlighten me as to where all of this work is? If there is a shortage of workers there certainly will not be for long as soon as you start opening the doors to every immigrant. What is the latest stat on children per family in Canada? Now compare that to the amount of children per family in say..Mexico. This abundance of jobs (although I am still trying to figure out where) will not be abundant for long and the next generation will have to pay the price for that. I like Canada just the way it is with tons of open space where you can go and get away from people. For all my fellow canucks who do not agree with this.. perhaps you should enter the US illegaly of course.

To my southern neighbours, I am all for you folks deporting every last one of them who do not have permission to be in your country. I do not understand why that is so hard to understand and enforce? I have worked in a few other countries before and I can tellk you it is not easy at all to get the proper Visa's and Work Permits. If I was caught in any of those countries even looking for a job while on a visitor visa I would be promptly escorted to the closest airport and sent on my way . If I got into any legal trouble in those countries while working there the same thing would happen immediately. I support all of the good people of the US in their battle to save their country.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by nepafogo]




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:21 PM
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I think Canada should count itself lucky right now not be be infested with uncountable Illegals all draining your systems resources.

You have yet to experience anything like what is in the UK or US when we talk of illegal aliens. (not the good ufo ones)

You already pay a hefty tax on EVEYTHING in canada with a HST due to come into effect in Vancouver in August to pay for the olympic (winter olympics that is and not the proper Summer one) which again will put many of your service staff out of jobs. You already have a high homeless population just Actually laying about on the streets in vancouver opening doors of seven eleven and just being a smelly mess.

So imagine that time 25 with illegals everywhere taking all the low wage jobs and not paying tax because they are illegal and then imagine the burden on your housing markets and healthcare (i use this word with real delicacy). Now imagine these illegals need to eat and support their families too. CRIMe spirals upwards and your quality of life and relativity low major crime rate rockets. Rape, theft and murder are all common stats when countries talk about illegal aliens.

When your country grows to a substantial place to live you have that to look forward to.

And please.....illegals choose their destination carefully. they DO look for prosperity and what they can get out of a place. Why do you think no one flocks to Nigeria, Etheopia, Iran, Ukraine, Bosnia, Gerogia or India. Because they offer nothing in the way of luxuries and good living. So when canada passes a certain level of prosperity look out.

IMMIGRATION boooooooom!!!



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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Just got stationed overseas, and just saying I'm happy to have left Arizona for the stupid laws over there. I'm in PA and hopefully they don't pass a stupid law like that over here.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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Just to throw a "reality" view on this.

I own a small Renovation Co. and have 4 permanent employees.

I paid them 20 bucks a hr because that is what it takes to keep them.

If given a choice, I would rather pay "illegals" 8 bucks a hr.

So , I'll take 4 please.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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Well that would make you an enabler of the root problem. You are still able to maintain your business and make a living by paying your workers $20/hour which is a fair wage, but you would rather hire some illegals for $8/hour and put the legals out of work? The problem is more with the employers that are hiring the illegals and IMO the law should come down very hard on these businesses that hire illegals. If all empoyers would follow this law it would be an even playing field as far as what they need to charge for their product or service and they would not be undercut by someone else who hires illegals and can lower his price.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by manta78
We are ready to transfer these numbers to your country:

U S Stats:

22,805,552 Illegal Aliens in country

580,779 Other than Mexican Illegals in country


Source: immigrationcounters.com...

ImmigrationCounters.com provides the key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States.


I don't think those numbers are accurate. My country estimated that 1.7 million citizens live in the US and 60% are illegal. That is over 1 million illegals from a small Central American country.

We alone almost double the number as stated as illegals other than mexico.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by daskakik]



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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I know, from personal information previously relayed to me, that certain countries in South and Central America, purposely have had some of their citizens claim to be from Mexico, instead of their real country, so as to not cause a "negative reputation", and thus increased crackdown on illegals from those countries. Since they speak spanish, and rarely carry papers, who is to know the difference? I am not excusing that in any way, and I am totally against illegal immigration, regardless of what country; just trying to explain how some of the numbers in the Mexican illegals total are probably from countries other than Mexico, so you could easily be correct in your estimate. I do not think however that the total number of Mexican illegals in the U S is going to vary by more than 1-3 million from the totals given on that website which combines both federal and private sources.





[edit on 25-5-2010 by manta78]



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Maddogkull
...with more population/immigration comes more crime.


No...more crime comes from warehousing poor folk. Most immigrants are grateful for the opportunities offered here and turn into good productive citizens.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by JohnnyCanuck]


Really evidently you need to look ino the asian gangs taking over vancouver and BC. Or how about the head of the asian gang who has been deported 3 times now.

I personally believe immigration is fine but if you come here to Canada to commit crimes then you should be going home in a pine box.

On the Arrizona law, the fact is that something like 100% of the illegals there are or have committed a felony. the very fact that they are in the country is a felony plus they use identity theft to get ID and jobs. I had an uncle who got a call from the IRS a year ago. He lives in Mass and the IRS wanted to know why he didn't have any of his additional income from his other jobs on his tax return. Seems 10 or so different people across Arizonna where using his SIN # to gt ID and jobs. End of the year and the companies file to the IRS that they paid X in wages to his Social Insurance # and he's on the hook for the taxes for all that "income".

It took him months and thousand of dollars to clear his name so he didn't oh the IRS that money. Now he has people in Arizonna trying to open credit card accounts under his SIN # too.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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More hot brown skinned latin american girls?! Bring 'em on, I don't see enough of 'em here!


Seriously, I could care less. This isn't ' my country', some of my ancestors came here because they had no other choice- some of them fled violence- possibly the McLeods on my father's mother's side for example- just as these people. I just care if they don't just stay for the good times. I dislike any 'prideful' group who aren't willing to melt into canadian society though... No matter where they're from.

Edit: I agree with other posters regarding the issue of not enough jobs- although I will argue that there are a lot of 'dead' towns that could use some fresh blood in exchange for legal status. Too many immigrants move to the cities and this is a real problem. They need to move to these podunk towns instead and breathe some new life into deadvilles like Cumberland in vancouver island for example.

Legalize drugs, end the war on drugs and these people won't need to flee such horrible violence.

[edit on 26-5-2010 by star in a jar]



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:06 AM
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we need more japanese, because the sushi here sucks, also send a small of amount of mexicans because im tired of eating taco bell and would like to eat authentic tacos once in a while. we have alot of italians, so landscaping and construction is pretty much covered. a few south americans would be a bonus because our soccer team is embarrassing. do mexicans tolerate the cold well, because winters are pretty harsh and there is a shortage snow plow operators and drive way clearers. can visas be seasonal, that would be a big help. thanks.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:12 AM
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we a buffer to keep illegals out; its called the united states of america.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:12 AM
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we a buffer to keep illegals out; its called the united states of america.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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Want to stop illegal immigration?
Simply help the illegals make their HOME COUNTRY a better place to live>
The simple fact is there is too much disparity between the living standards of N Americans and the reat of the world....
perhaps if we quit living off of ripping these third world countries for their wealth and paid a reasonable dollar for what we obtain from them....they would be able to stay home and live a better life.
But wer are too freakin selfish to ever share with them....
creepy isnt it?



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by stirling
Want to stop illegal immigration?
Simply help the illegals make their HOME COUNTRY a better place to live.



Then you go and do that.

No one is stopping you from giving everything you own to the Guatemalans.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by prionace glauca
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I would welcome that your population grow, we would like to see a world be a happy place.

Just one thing, would you have to Jobs to provide for such massive amount work seeking individuals.

And don't take my posts to be attacking yours in any way.


We could gladly put them to work developing the northern half of Canada. Construction, road work, it is all needed, but no one wants to stick around up there in the cold. They would pay taxes while doing this of course.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by C11H17N2NaO2S
And the Health care is sooo behind, its appauling. In Vancouver try and find a good doctor who is not Asian.


My dr is Dr. Ming. Where do you think she comes from? I'll address the rest of that tripe after you answer.


I also could never understand why anyone would be against having an Asian doctor. If they are trained in China or Japan their knowledge is very advanced, and more willing to add in alternative medicines that often work well. East meets West. Acupuncture and antibiotics. Nothing the matter with that.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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I have known more than my fair share of illegals and the real reason that illegals claim to be mexican is not because they are told to do so by their government.

The reson is that if you are in a border town and you claim to be mexican they will, or at least they used to, escort you the border and let you cross into mexico from where you could waltz back in. This sure beats being flow thousands of kilometers south of the border and having to trek all the way back.

I realize that the number of illegals in the US is really just a guess but I believe that my country would have harder numbers on the issue because they would have the number of citizens born into the country and the number not accounted for in the census. Those that have traveled legally would have gone through immigration so they would be accounted for. The rest, given room for error, have traveled illegally. Seeing that the trend is to go north and not south. This would give a number closer to the truth.

If taken at face value that would mean that 1 million illegals in the US from a country of 15 million and about the size of Virginia.

South America has 165 time the area of my country and almost 24 times the population. Some of their countries are doing rather well but others are as poor as my country. This would mean that they may seek a better life in one that is better off than travel all the way north to the US. Still, I would not be surprised if the number of illegals from Latin American countries other than Mexico would be around 5 million and this doesn't even take into account immigrants from the rest of the world.

[edit on 26-5-2010 by daskakik]

[edit on 26-5-2010 by daskakik]



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Hell, send them all to the MAC, they will have a new truck and a double wide in 4 months tops!! There is plenty of roughneck work to be done, lots of actual money for them to make and in turn make a real life for themselves.



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 10:02 AM
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Chem trails, Fluoride, Martial Law, Chance of false alien invasion, Manipulative leader's conspiring against the population and your worried about someone coming into the US to get his chicken on?....



posted on May, 26 2010 @ 10:07 AM
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Ya but what do all the East Coasters do then?



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