Today's chemcast in Pasadena 5/25/10

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posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by dbloch7986
Okay, let me get something straight. I am not a debunker. I just have never seen a legitimate reason as to why the government would go through so much trouble to spray the sky full of junk. I mean that stuff never lands on target, it inevitably gets dissipated into the prevailing winds. It would make more sense to poison the water. There is no need to do it EVERYDAY, every single day, with few exceptions. I mean why do they coninuously do it every day, for the last, what 20 years? What's the goal? Does it ever end? Why would they poison the air that they also breathe? I mean everyone has to breathe the air don't they? Please explain.


 
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Well, the water being poisoned is another deal alltogether. Its called flouride. Thats not a good chemical to ingest, but I digress.

As to all the whys and everything. Im not going to inject my opinion into it. My opinion is just that. An opinion. The documents and science presented in all the docs I linked and all the ones on the DOE site explain everything and more for anyone really wanting to look into this topic.

Anything else is purely debate and disinfo.

Look into this if you really want to know whats going on.

Good luck




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Chaos, destruction, its like a drug. I believe adrenaline plays a major role.

Imagine the feeling they may get when they plan out an event, and orchestrate it to conclusion successfully. How does it feel for them when they give the final go ahead and sit back with a fine cigar in their hand a beautiful woman at their side laughing claiming how they have done so?



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:06 PM
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Hey,
Some of us are trying to get the answers to these questions. I, for one, am NOT assuming anyone is trying to poison us INTENTIONALLY.
I do realize they could poison each of us UNintentionally. Meaning, they are experimenting with our climate with unknown consequences.

They are spraying something. Period.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by dbloch7986
 

Hey,
Some of us are trying to get the answers to these questions. I, for one, am NOT assuming anyone is trying to poison us INTENTIONALLY.
I do realize they could poison each of us UNintentionally. Meaning, they are experimenting with our climate with unknown consequences.

They are spraying something. Period.




Good post.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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I don't understand why you guys think "they" are spraying anything.

Have you ever seen a crop-duster deploy its pesticides. It does not leave a long persistent trail.

Have you ever seen an aircraft dump fuel at altitude? It does not leave a long persistent trail.

Have you ever seen an aircraft drop water on a forest fire? It does not leave a long persistent trail.

For the record, I can remember seeing the same things you guys are calling chemtrails back in the 70's. I think some of you have selective memories and are swept up by this particular theory because its cool (though overtly paranoid) and you see it much more often thanks to the huge increase in air traffic over the past decades.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by bagari
I don't understand why you guys think "they" are spraying anything.

Have you ever seen a crop-duster deploy its pesticides. It does not leave a long persistent trail.

Have you ever seen an aircraft dump fuel at altitude? It does not leave a long persistent trail.

Have you ever seen an aircraft drop water on a forest fire? It does not leave a long persistent trail.

For the record, I can remember seeing the same things you guys are calling chemtrails back in the 70's. I think some of you have selective memories and are swept up by this particular theory because its cool (though overtly paranoid) and you see it much more often thanks to the huge increase in air traffic over the past decades.





www.asp.bnl.gov...

No, you are wrong.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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I was around in the 70's. and the 60's. and, in fact the 50's.
I noticed there was the color green in a sunset.
In the 70's.
If you look, you may notice it too.

There were no contrails that stretched across the skies in the 70's.
In fact, it is impossible.

Here is a cool link, check out the images. Tell me you remember this from the 70's.

imageevent.com...



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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I cant speak of the 70's or earlier, but I know what I use to see... And these skies aint it buddies.

Sorry, but Im still not seeing anything from any of the wannabe debunkers debunking anything.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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Same here. I grew up near Malmstrom air force base in the 60s. Occasionally we'd see a high flying jet leaving a cool-looking contrail--that would promptly evaporate. What's going on now started around 1996 by my reckoning. That's when I started noticing strange-looking tubular clouds day after day. They were so out of the usual, that at first I didn't even realize they were aircraft emissions!



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 09:24 PM
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As far as I know, they haven't moved major cities and they haven't moved major airports. The "contrails" should always be in the same places going the same old tired directions.
but, they aren't and they don't.
They crisscross the sky, defying all logical and physical reasons for being there.

Of course we will not be told what is going on. Since when have the American people been kept informed about ANYTHING.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by yuefo
 

As far as I know, they haven't moved major cities and they haven't moved major airports. The "contrails" should always be in the same places going the same old tired directions. but, they aren't and they don't.
They crisscross the sky, defying all logical and physical reasons for being there.


Excellent point.


Of course we will not be told what is going on. Since when have the American people been kept informed about ANYTHING.


Well let's see, we weren't told about the plan to nuke the moon, we weren't told the truth about the attack on the USS Liberty, we weren't told the truth about the Gulf of Tonkin incident, we weren't told the truth about JFK, we weren't told the truth about Iraq, we weren't told the truth about 911...yeah, you know something, you're right.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Goethe

www.asp.bnl.gov...

No, you are wrong.


Very interesting link. Thanks for posting this.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Why spread such blatant lies and misinformation?

What you're saying is that clouds shouldn't persist either, because that's what contrails basically are...

Clouds.

Do yourself a favour and find a text book on weather BEFORE chemtrails were dreamt up (before the 90's) and read up on basic meteorology before you spread ignorant misinformation.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by BlesUTP
 


Why spread such blatant lies and misinformation?

What you're saying is that clouds shouldn't persist either, because that's what contrails basically are...

Clouds.

Do yourself a favour and find a text book on weather BEFORE chemtrails were dreamt up (before the 90's) and read up on basic meteorology before you spread ignorant misinformation.



I agree with your comments, but the 90s part. I cant say because I didnt know about such things at that time, but I can tell you this, clouds persist. Contrails persist. And Aerosol Forcing exists, and persists.

Now, figuring out which is which is the debatable part.

Ive still yet to see a more documented 'conspiracy theoery' out there...



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by yuefo

Originally posted by Goethe

www.asp.bnl.gov...

No, you are wrong.


Very interesting link. Thanks for posting this.


Anytime!

Now remember, this doesnt exist and that site is filled with BS and nothing dependable.




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by Goethe
Theres 3-4 wannabe debunkers here that will surely come out to claim your a loony, but I personally think theyre the same person using alts and maybe even a govt disinfo agent. Theyre using them now in Canada.


Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

Send the names of these members to the site owners and get them banned.
It is after all against the T&C's to have duplicate accounts.

Put up or shut up.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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That website is of a group that monitors the atmosphere and the particulates in it.

As a matter of fact, they have the equipment to put the chemtrail theory to bed completely.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by dbloch7986
Reply to post by OldDragger
 


That's interesting. I wonder if they can predict cloud cover based on higher atmosphere conditions combined with air traffic. I definitely know that these clouds were cirrus clouds formed by air traffic contrails because I observed it happen myself.


As a matter of fact we do


The appleman chart is the tool used to forecast for them. The upper air weather is taken from weather balloon data. The thread in my signature was an experiment we did using ground observations from members, and co-ordinating them with uppper air data, to see if conditions were right for contrail formation and/or persistence



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus

Originally posted by Goethe
Theres 3-4 wannabe debunkers here that will surely come out to claim your a loony, but I personally think theyre the same person using alts and maybe even a govt disinfo agent. Theyre using them now in Canada.


Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

Send the names of these members to the site owners and get them banned.
It is after all against the T&C's to have duplicate accounts.

Put up or shut up.



It was called 'sarcasm', ya know, (tounge in cheek). Thanks though for the lovely comments.
And have a blessed 'Chemtrail' free day.




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Goethe
 


That website is of a group that monitors the atmosphere and the particulates in it.

As a matter of fact, they have the equipment to put the chemtrail theory to bed completely.





Yea? Then why dont they? And that group does alot more than just 'monitoring'. Sorry, but unless you have something backing up your claims... 'Put up, or'... Howd that one go? Oh... 'Shut up'.






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