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IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff

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posted on May, 25 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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IG report: Meth, porn use by drilling agency staff


news.yahoo.com

Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.

...an inspector for the Minerals Management Service admitted using crystal methamphetamine and said he might have been under the influence of the drug the next day at work...
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 01:13 PM
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The report cites a variety of violations of federal regulations and ethics rules at the agency's Louisiana office. Previous inspector general investigations have focused on inappropriate behavior by the royalty-collection staff in the agency's Denver office.

The report adds to the climate of frustration and criticism facing the Obama administration in the monthlong oil spill disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, although it covers actions before the spill. Millions of gallons of oil are gushing into the Gulf, endangering wildlife and the livelihoods of fishermen, as scrutiny intensifies on a lax regulatory climate.


This is surprising news. Now the administration has to pass blame around on someone.

Such stories really call into question, how these regulators are chosen in the first place. Most of them are porbably appointed through political channels related to the amount of funds donated to a particular party.

The standards of those in our government and its policing bodies are at their worst. This is of grave concern, especially now since the Public Sector is outpacing the Private Sector job growth and salary.

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 01:37 PM
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Agency Staff Member: "Oh! I see you have a large crack in that pipe, and also that pipe over there is about to burst, potentially causing the entire gulf of mexico to flood over with oil!!!! I'm going to have to repor...."

Offshore Drilling Director: "Hey, look what I found! Two tickets to a baseball game! Are you sure you see any cracks?"

Agency Staff Member: "Cracks? What Cracks? I'm off to a baseball game"

Yeah... that's exactly what happened.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 02:46 PM
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So this is exaclty like the SEC ?

Porn is how the government gets corrupted I guess.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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Oh for godssakes. WHY does porn get stuck in titles like that? People don't "get high on porn" and go out and kill families on the highway. There is nothing about porn "in general" which is criminal except what our society moralizes about it and the issues some people create while making it. Looking at penthouse is not going to cause a man to blow up an oil rig. That's just retarded.

RC



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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posted on May, 25 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by ickylevel
So this is exaclty like the SEC ?

Porn is how the government gets corrupted I guess.


I think this shows how unprofessional people are in these industries, and if they will do these things, what else might they be tempted to do?
Take bribes and such is a good bet.... Anyone willing to forego some ethical behavior can be easily persuaded to do even more things.. And this is what is desired in order for the top players to continue the shady things they do.. It keeps the game flowing while also being corrupt, but not getting caught...
We are seeing rocketing corruption these days in the whole world and it is getting freaky in my opinion...



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by alienreality

Originally posted by ickylevel
So this is exaclty like the SEC ?

Porn is how the government gets corrupted I guess.


I think this shows how unprofessional people are in these industries, and if they will do these things, what else might they be tempted to do?
Take bribes and such is a good bet.... Anyone willing to forego some ethical behavior can be easily persuaded to do even more things.. And this is what is desired in order for the top players to continue the shady things they do.. It keeps the game flowing while also being corrupt, but not getting caught...
We are seeing rocketing corruption these days in the whole world and it is getting freaky in my opinion...


That's a rather large jump from viewing porn to taking bribes. What's to say those who use personal twitter or facebook accounts, read and post at online forums, play solitaire, or shop online at work won't take bribes. What about those that take home office supplies or use office phones for personal business? Let's not forget about those that call in sick so they can go to a ball game.

Viewing porn is unprofessional, but it's not a sign that someone will do something illegal. In my opinion, the use of porn is mentioned due to it's sensationalism. As some people get outraged over any use of porn.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Kaploink]



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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Great post!


This is certainly getting to be a HUGE issue. Everyone soon forgets how certain other people were looking at porn ALL DAY LONG while our stock market was imploding. How soon we forget.

Let's all remember that the blame isn't being shifted to anything.
Folks took bribes, used computers (paid for by you & me) to entertain themselves with smut, & sold/bought/distributed/used a highly addicted illegal substance.

If the ones who are rolling their eyes would read the entire article, it is now being brought to our attention that the rig workers may have been under the influence of meth & possibly other such substances while on the job. And we know who supplied it.

This is a perfect way to make & save money.
Entertain & distract the sheep dog.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 03:29 PM
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Reading the article is not the prime concern of people who are interested in making reactionary posts or comment on titles.

This does bring in to question how seriously these regulators took their job. If a regulatore has that much free time to doing these things then there is something wrong with that job description and not enough job responsibility.


Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry.


Individuals were not concerened about the inspections much, especially since this particular rig got outstanding inspection report and a reward earlier this year.

Porn doesn't kill people, unless they are on beta blockers & some enhancers that can drastically reduce the BP. What these individuals did when they were suppose to be insuring safety of the workers is the problem.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by prionace glauca]



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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I understand that you are pointing out how lax things had become. The atmosphere was certainly unprofessional for a number of reasons stated in the article.
I know that porn doesn't kill people. I was speaking about meth.
Here is the quote I was referring to:
In at least one case, an inspector for the Minerals Management Service admitted using crystal methamphetamine and said he might have been under the influence of the drug the next day at work, according to the report by the acting inspector general of the Interior Department.

We don't know what happened prior to the explosion, but there is certainly no question that these "good ol' boys" who knew each other from childhood were contributing to the degraded safety level of that rig & others.
Here is the article I have quoted from: news.yahoo.com...



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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I am in agreement and thank your for understanding the post in its context and not the dog/pony opera some have performed above.

The lax rules and regulations are decaying the principles of how we should be holding companies and entities reponsible.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 04:19 PM
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True, it is a big jump from porn to taking bribes or other things illegal,
But I have worked in some different places and remember hearing about people getting caught for using a computer workstation to view porn, make bets on gambling sites, check their stocks, work on their ebay stores, all kinds of stuff, the list is endless... Most of those people would do anything if it had a fairly low risk in it..ie; slap on the wrist etc...
And some of those would take even bigger chances... once the temptation wins and a person gets away with it he or she feels they gained an easy profit of sorts and may be easily persuaded to take bigger risks...
The best way is never do anything at all questionable at work period, and then when there is any corruption there, you had nothing whatsover to do with it... (just as an example)



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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It's all good, Prionace.
No harm, no foul.
I am getting tired of the dog & pony shows though. I'm running a traditional 3-ring circus in another forum & clowns just keep coming!

Is it just me, or have there been an overwhelming number of thread derailers & humiliators flocking to ATS lately? It's almost as though the only words/phrases they know are "relax", "you're crazy", "doomer, gloomer", & ask you to subscribe to psyche meds?
Oh, maybe it's just me ......

Stay vigilant!



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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I actually agree that it's clear there was not attention and focus on what mattered, and the story did make that much clear.

However, I have known people on 'work' computers to 'look at porn' on occasion in essentially every possible kind of workplace I have ever come across including those I only know-of including military and charitable organizations. In short this is just pointless as insult, it's pervasive and not remotely some call-it-out-as-criminal factor.

The reason I brought it up is because I feel it does a disservice to the seriousness of the accusation when porn is lumped in with something like meth. Meth is such a serious charge in and of itself that it should just stand alone and it would make a much better point for the cause. Reporting that someone is on meth and doesn't even remember what they did or didn't do on the job -- the job related to one of the worst manmade disasters in history -- is huge, and it has a lot more impact without the rest.

To me the porn thing is like throwing in that they also copied videotapes. Yeah maybe some people can moralize about that but it mostly makes the vast majority of public who have done it less sympathetic to the accusation.

(I am agreeing, not disagreeing, with your primary point.)

RC



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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You have your opinion and others have theirs

If you want to make blanket excuses for porn more than you're prepared to see the effects of idiots being idiots when they're in positions of responsibility, that's your affair

Personally, I would have hoped that instead of knee-jerk reactions in defence of porn, posters would instead have grasped just how slackly and stupidily the operation was being run. Because the effects are before the world's eyes now, aren't they ?

And supposedly grown men masturbating to porn instead of doing their job isn't the way to ensure safety, efficiency or competency in ANY workplace

What sort of monkeys will sit there with their tongues hanging out and their hands working furiously as they watch other people having simulated sex ? It's teh bottom of the barrel. Don't they HAVE sex lives of their own ? Can't they perform unless they're playing voyeur ? Well, their moronic perversion has cost the world greatly, hasn't it ? It's cost the wildlife greatly. And who knows what the eventual cost will be ? All so fat, lardy sexual-inadequates can beat off ! And that doesn't even take into account that filthy substance: meth

No, don't defend such sub-human behaviours to me, thanks



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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I agree, Porn was just one the many other behaviors pointed out during this probe. The article also shows the other violations that the IG found in the course of his/her investigation.

These individuals were ignorning their prime directive, their policing body's mission statement. They risked and should be held responsible for those 11 workers who did not make it home to their loved ones. If the violations or these individuals being in bed with who they were suppose to police go unpunished then no lesson will be learned.

Public shame is nothing to these people, they know the masses will forget in due time. As far as the standards use to fill these positions need to be revamped and the entier regulatory agency evaluated for competency.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 06:49 PM
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No, don't defend such sub-human behaviours to me


Would it be different if they'd been looking at eBay or Amazon? Using the computer for non-work browsing is pretty much the same regardless of one's obsession. Using it to froth and rant on ATS would be as inappropriate as anything else.

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I agree that the article pointed out these guys were out to lunch in several regards -- and we need vastly better standards and some kind of 'oversight'.

RC



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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Just so it is clear:

Every single drilling rig in West Texas, New Mexico, Louisianna and Oklahoma has someone under the influence of either meth or coke working right this very minute. I don't care what the rig operator says.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by RedCairo



No, don't defend such sub-human behaviours to me


Would it be different if they'd been looking at eBay or Amazon? Using the computer for non-work browsing is pretty much the same regardless of one's obsession. Using it to froth and rant on ATS would be as inappropriate as anything else.

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I agree that the article pointed out these guys were out to lunch in several regards -- and we need vastly better standards and some kind of 'oversight'.

RC


I wanted to point it out that porn is an addiction to some people. If the people who we're discussing are addicted to drugs, they are most likely also addicted to porn. Most people who have a healthy inclination towards pornography know to keep it at home. If these people couldn't do that, they have issues & have proven that they have little power over their "needs" & shouldn't be working in a position where only responsible, clear-headed people deserve to be in control.
You know, the people we can TRUST to do the RIGHT things.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Afterthought]




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