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Immigrant exodus: Lack of jobs has Mexicans headed home

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posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW

Originally posted by Tetrarch42
Except that we're like a special breed of super rats(with cool bandanas and a knack for making tacos!) that can swim very well, so when the ship is sinking we run back to our mud huts and wait it out until someone repairs that ship. Then BAM! Before ya' know it, you'll be crawling with us again!


Rats that have access to the Internet too I see.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Prove_It_NOW]


Well kind of. If you extend the rat anaology to everyone of Mexican ancenstry. I am actually a Canadian citizen(born here), parents all have Canadian citizenship.




posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:11 PM
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Here's is a very interesting website with "live numbers" of illegal aliens in the United States, which are being updated constantly and their data sources listed; interesting to note that more than 11 million skilled jobs in the U S have gone to illegal aliens:


"ImmigrationCounters.com provides the key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States. Using the latest government and private sources, research and analysis trending data is factored at their individual rates of increase. Topic related links are provided for you to become more informed by exposing the myths of illegal immigration. For information about the research behind the individual counters, click here Data Sources. ImmigrationCounters.com supports legal immigration and respect for all humanity, yet highlights the significant impact of illegal immigration."

Source: www.immigrationcounters.com...





[edit on 24-5-2010 by manta78]



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Target Earth
reply to post by seataka
 


look I get it, why they want to be here... but enough is enough. If they spent as much effort as they spend getting out of Mexico in maybe fixing Mexico, it might be a nice place to live. But I think for the most part Hard working Americans of every race our sick of seeing our tax dollars go to feed, them and pay for their Children... to pay for their hospitalization ect.... What do we get back in return, crime and violence...
We are sick of free loaders, We owe them nothing. because all we have done for them is spit back on our face.


In my OPINION, an attempt is being made to set american against mexican AND I bet to incite mexicans against americans.

Not "rich" americans against 'rich' mexicans... this is about maniopulating poor and ignorant people on both sides of the border.

In my opinion, the entire terrorist, patriot act etc.. agenda, is to create bad guys. Those bad guys 'acts' will ensure that you accept the limitations of your freedoms... that you accept being scanned at airports and having your person searched....in case you are one of those bad guys.
This is social engineering on a global scale.

How many of your kids can get shot up or burned with napalm in Falluja in Iran before you would declare jihad against imperialist america?

That progam is not working as well as TPTB might have hoped.. at least not yet anyway. In the meantime.. lets stir up animosity between innocents.. and get THEM fighting... this is simple psychological manipulation.

The core problems are economic and social. They are about corruption on both sides of the border. They are about greed and armaments contracts...

We are all human. The divisions amongst us will continue to have salt poured into those wounds until violence creates the next big contract for the military industrial complex -or- The Prison Industrial Complex.

In Mexico Americans are looked down on by the intelligencia as ignorant, but rich, perverts.. who are known for coming into mexico and setting up "private night clubs" where rich old farts can prey on young, mexican peasants.. trading sex for a meal.

And somebody talked about filling out forms at the border... you have to be able to read to do that... Mexicans don't trust their government officials either.

And Note: Many are not mexican at all.. but are from Guatamala, El Salvidor, etc. America means they will not starve and their children might have a better chance at sucess than they had.

Seataka



[edit on 24-5-2010 by seataka]



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by Exv8densez
Another thread purposely blurring the line between immigrants and illegals.


Wasn't the problem the "illegals"? Or is it just Mexicans=illegals?

Anyway isn't an exodus good news? Or would it be better to exterminate them so they will not come back?


ummm waitress !!!
Check please !!!
I don't particularly care for the
attacks by your patrons.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Exv8densez
Another thread purposely blurring the line between immigrants and illegals.


Wasn't the problem the "illegals"? Or is it just Mexicans=illegals?

Anyway isn't an exodus good news? Or would it be better to exterminate them so they will not come back?


ummm waitress !!!
Check please !!!
I don't particularly care for the
attacks by your patrons.


I don't think they know what they want anymore.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by seataka

Originally posted by azguyblahblah

Originally posted by seataka

Originally posted by Target Earth
Rats fleeing a sinking ship, They don't have to tuff it out with the rest of us... So it's up to the American citizens to rebuild this country, just to have the illegals flood back in droves to cause the problem all over again. This is of course, that is if... we can get ourselves out of this?


...
In mexico, with a local peasant kid as my guide... I toured a jungle valley up the mountains from Veracruz, near where the high plateau drops off towards the now soiled gulf. That child proudly showed me a mountain side... not a hill, a mountain,, at a 40 degree angle.. that was dotted with hand dug mounds bearing single corn stalks.

When I asked father why there were no animals, no birds, no monkeys, to be seen.. in the jungle, father said.. "The peasants have eaten everything that moves"

Most americans have never known hunger.

I assure you, when you do, you will find the prospect of swimming across a river like the Rio Grande will seem a trifle.




[edit on 24-5-2010 by seataka]


What a sad story. Since your post reeks of moral superiority on your part, I assume you did the right thing and sold all of your worldly possessions to feed the residents of this poor village. Right?

The richest man on the entire planet is a Mexican who lives in Mexico. Spare me your guilt trip.




Also Known as: "You Too Fallacy"
Description of Ad Hominem Tu Quoque

This fallacy is committed when it is concluded that a person's claim is false because 1) it is inconsistent with something else a person has said or 2) what a person says is inconsistent with her actions. This type of "argument" has the following form:

1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X. 3. Therefore X is false.

The fact that a person makes inconsistent claims does not make any particular claim he makes false (although of any pair of inconsistent claims only one can be true - but both can be false). Also, the fact that a person's claims are not consistent with his actions might indicate that the person is a hypocrite but this does not prove his claims are false.


www.nizkor.org...


That's pretty cool. Does that mean you at least gave the kid a ten spot, or did you pull out a prepared lecture for him?

Just because one town you visited in Mexico was impoverished, does not mean that the whole country is starving. I see brand new suburbans with Sonoran plates driving around in my town all day long. However, I never concluded that your claim was false. I concluded that the richest man on Earth lives in a country where you claim people are eating jungle animals and flying critters. I'm not sure either of our arguments are very useful, so I'll go ahead and concede to you the last word, if you want it. Goodnight.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:19 PM
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Good find.

Wish you would have posted it in the Breaking Alternative News forum, though, so more people would see it.

Now my question is: Are the Americans in the NC town or area suffering at all with these people leaving? I mean are the American citizens "left behind" starving, or are their lawns out of control, or are their houses too dirty to live in, or can they still get a decent burrito to eat?

This is what the pro-illegals alway throw at us. I want to know if it's true.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by belidged
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


I think the most interesting issue with our borders isn't immigration plans to keep illegals out, but Homeland Security plans to keep citizens in. What's DHS's plan for making a 100 mile constitution free zone all around the border?

www.aclu.org...


OMG !!!
I didn't know about that Constitution-Free Zone.
The site said this happened in 2008.
This kind of $h!+ just disgust me.
What the he!! has happened to America???
Bush was in office when this went into effect.
Damn, we need a revolution .... BADDDDDD !!!!


Woohoo! I live in a Constitution free zone! I never would have guessed it, seeing as how I can't leave the area in any direction without first passing through a hostile Border Patrol checkpoint, where you are questioned and beaten if you refuse to turn on your back and submit like a broken dog.

www.yumasun.com...

Ok, but seriously...bed time!



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:24 PM
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reply to post by seataka
 


Opening up sex clubs for old men happens everywhere not just Mexico, It is horrible but It doesn't have anything to do with the topic. lot's of people do horrible things for money everyday, in every country. yes I get Mexico is a nasty place... but you can't blame rich white people. If anything rich white people have given Mexico a better economy, by moving all the American jobs down there. as far as a race war, I believe they are trying to start one. Obama has racially and economically split the county. and It is working.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Tetrarch42

Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW

Originally posted by Tetrarch42
Except that we're like a special breed of super rats(with cool bandanas and a knack for making tacos!) that can swim very well, so when the ship is sinking we run back to our mud huts and wait it out until someone repairs that ship. Then BAM! Before ya' know it, you'll be crawling with us again!


Rats that have access to the Internet too I see.

[edit on 24-5-2010 by Prove_It_NOW]


Well kind of. If you extend the rat anaology to everyone of Mexican ancenstry. I am actually a Canadian citizen(born here), parents all have Canadian citizenship.


Well firstly...you said "We" after saying "cool bandanas and a knack for making tacos"...which doesn't conjure up visions of John Candy and Rick Moranis.

YOU'RE the one who inferred MEXICAN...not me.

You assumed the role of a Mexican Illegal posting here, and then try and say 'gotchya' when I call you on your OWN INFERENCE.

So now you're a STUPID rat.



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by Target Earth
reply to post by seataka
 


Opening up sex clubs for old men happens everywhere not just Mexico, It is horrible but It doesn't have anything to do with the topic. lot's of people do horrible things for money everyday, in every country. yes I get Mexico is a nasty place... but you can't blame rich white people. If anything rich white people have given Mexico a better economy, by moving all the American jobs down there. as far as a race war, I believe they are trying to start one. Obama has racially and economically split the county. and It is working.


I'm with you here.. you are stating the point that I hoped to make out of yet another slam hungry peasants thread...




as far as a race war, I believe they are trying to start one.


YES..



posted on May, 24 2010 @ 11:59 PM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Seems like you don't really care about your own logic as well!

And Pulleeeese.
You call that an attack?



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 12:08 AM
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reply to post by Tetrarch42
 

You mean like those who don't know if it's the illegals, the immigrants or the Mexicans? Or whatever?

Really hoping that remark was toward the O.P and the likes.


Anyway, never mind mate! Good news is good news.


[edit on 25-5-2010 by Exv8densez]



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
I keep hearing rumors that there will be illegal immigration to Mexico fron the US one day

Yea, and probably India, etc. We'll be the taxi drivers. Or so says Ron Paul!



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dogdish
Sad thing is, these are the "good" ones.

The criminals/gangs won't go home and find work. They're staying.


That's because the criminals have a good job.


Seriously though, it is very sad to see anyone have to suffer. If there arn't enough jobs for illegals, maybe now people will understand just how bad things really are here.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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They can go to california, greener pasteurs there with plenty to suck of schwarzenegger Moobs.

LA is even welcoming them with open arms, cervezas for everyone.

This is a welcomed sight, I don't like to see anyone suffer but what I hate to see is the American Citizens who suffered because of these illegals. Every job this duo occupied, took that oppurtunity away from a citizen who was probably forced to go unemployment benefits and food stamps.




posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
I keep hearing rumors that there will be illegal immigration to Mexico fron the US one day


Such a scene featured in the film " The Day After Tomorrow "

Though they were refugees, as opposed to immigrants ....


A strong feature of The Day After Tomorrow is the way in which a natural disaster forces political change. When Mexico closes its borders to the influx of north American refugees, the President is forced to negotiate a deal in which all Latin American debt is written off. He also makes a special thank you to the nations they had formerly referred to as 'the third world'.

link


[edit on 25-5-2010 by UmbraSumus]



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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it can cost a little more then that. It is not always an easy process. I know a coworker who spent two years and her familie's savings trying to get citizenship, flying back and forth. To only be turned down in the end for God knows what reason.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 11:49 AM
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This just goes to support my point that we wouldn't have an illegal immigrant problem in the first place if there were no jobs for them, i.e. employers BREAKING THE LAW by hiring them. We don't need to tackle the symptoms, we need to eradicate the disease.



posted on May, 25 2010 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by nunya13
This just goes to support my point that we wouldn't have an illegal immigrant problem in the first place if there were no jobs for them, i.e. employers BREAKING THE LAW by hiring them. We don't need to tackle the symptoms, we need to eradicate the disease.

it seems we are eradicating nothing.
we are just switching from Mexicans
to Burmese and Thai's or so says
the article.



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